Pick your topic

My apologies to regular readers for the lack of new posts lately. Things have been crazy on the home-front.

In any case please feel free to weigh in on any political topic that interests you.

Front and centre today is Dalton McGuinty testifying under oath about the Gas Plant scandals.

You can watch live at 8:30 a.m. on the CTV website among other venues.

If Dalton tells a lie under oath will his nose grow?

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Update

Christie Blatchford: Dalton McGuinty tells a good story over cancelled Ontario power plants – National Post (H/T Liz J):

Yes, he acknowledged, the asthma-suffering children were always there, wheezing about, and there were asthma-suffering kiddies in other places where the government did plop down similar plants (hello York Region!) over much objection, but they were asthma-suffering young ’uns not in Liberal ridings, as New Democrat Peter Tabuns pointed out, so not “as high an issue” in Mr. McGuinty’s mind…

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71 Responses to Pick your topic

  1. Greg says:

    Testifying under oath, that has to be painful for a serial liar like him. I wonder how much he will avoid any direct answer, and how bad he will look doing so.

    • Joanne says:

      I had forgotten how slimy he is (and arrogant.)

      • Richco says:

        watching live. So far he and his colleagues on this panel are doing everything possible to softball EVERYTHING.

        McGuinty himself looks ill – visibly stressed.

        As condescending as EVER. I predict more of the same and that he’ll throw no one in his former caucus under that bus.

        • Richco says:

          who’s the girl behind McGuinty nodding at everything he says? Last member of the McGuinty fan club?

          • Richco says:

            He’s throwing OPA under the bus. Claims it was their estimates of costing of moving the plants.

            McGuinty claims that he made the changes to move the gas plants because it was what was good for Ontarians and he was “doing the right thing”.

            If it was so “right” and you’re such a hero in all of this Dalton, why did you pro-rogue the legislature and quit? What were you so scared of?

          • Fay says:

            I am listening to McGuinty . Does anyone else hear McGuinty saying he hopes all Politicians learn a lesson to not believe the estimates of the department of energy???
            It is hard to watch the Toronto
            media party give this guy another free ride.

  2. Richco says:

    PC’s are doing very well. Claiming that McGuinty has now changed his story from one year to the next.

    Asking McGuinty who in his government is telling the truth because they can’t all be.

    McGuinty responds by giving the PC’s a stupid answer about his legacy and green spaces conservation.

    PC’s are trying to get McGuinty to admit that this was purely a political decision rather than cancel the plants much early to save Ontarians “hundreds of millions of dollars” – McGuinty says he “can’t say” but concedes that the PCs make a good point.

    McGuinty says that the numbers he depended on and used were the ones provided by his Ministry of the Energy. Bentley gets run over by the bus.

    Got to run…….hoping to check back here to see how this all ends up.

    • Bec says:

      Boy, you guys are doing great keeping the rest of us in the loop and by the sounds of things, his nose has grown at least the length of the cancelled gas plant.

      The fawning media party have allowed and facilitated so many of these incompetent acts to occur in every crook and cranny of liberal-land.
      For example, what may be uncovered tomorrow from whistle blowers south of the border re Benghazi would have never happened had it been left to the tingling legs from the left.
      It’s a mindset that seems to have no conscience of truth and accountability.

      • Fay says:

        Very true Bec, when the fawning media allow governments to be incompetent the tax payers suffer. We have the same situation in Manitoba with our NDP government that has been in power for 14 years.
        Also when the fawning media allow Union bosses to dictate government policy, the taxpayer suffers.

      • Greg says:

        I’ve been following the Benghazi whistle blower story on Foxnews, and twitter. It’s been said that other than Fox, only CBS and CNN have even mentioned the hearings will occur. NBC, MSNBC, ABC completely absent.

        • Bec says:

          I really hope it ends up being bigger than Watergate or at least snuffs out all chances for Hillary to run and leaves TeamObama in ‘lame duck’ status.

          Her (HC) position particularly and words have been heartlessly caustic and it sure seems as though brushing things under the carpet is a spousal trait.

          • Richco says:

            It’s official Dalton McGuinty (like Kathleen Wynne) didn’t know ANYTHING either.

            Really? Tell that to the many taxpaying Ontarians whose money you wasted on well…just about everything.

            Come on Andrea Horwath get with the rest of the province and help us kick this Liberal government back to the third place rump where they belong.

            http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/07/former-ontario-premier-dalton-mcguinty-testifies-that-it-was-his-decision-to-kill-oakville-gas-plants/

            • Richco says:

              I listened carefully to the questions coming from the NDP to McGuinty.

              What I heard were questions that I felt were designed to get Kathleen Wynne off the hook.

              Which, if the NDP supports the budget will come out in the wash.

              IF Horwath declares her support and then and explains that in her and her party’s view Wynne was telling the truth and had no involvement then those questions today were posed for that express purpose.

              For the record McGuinty either said that no Wynne was not involved OR he couldn’t answer the questions referring to her involvement.

              • Joanne says:

                I will be very surprised if the NDP don’t support the budget. If Howarth says she can’t then Wynne can immediately go to the Lieutenant Governor and ask for an election and the whole campaign would be about how they gave the NDP everything they wanted and they reneged.

                Looking back it seems that Tim Hudak made the wiser move saying the Liberals were too corrupt to support no matter what was in the budget.

  3. Liz J says:

    Dalton McGuinty’s testimony is a prime example of a weasel politician taking the electorate, the taxpayers, for absolute fools.

  4. Martin says:

    I think Horwath has boxed herself into an untenable position. Having gotten everything she asked for in the budget, she would look very foolish and untrustworthy not to support it. I think she will hold her nose about the 585 m and expect Ontarians to forget along with her. There she is dead wrong, but her comeuppance may be a few months down the road. She should remember what happened to the NDP in 1987 after propping up the Liberals for 2 years; they were roundly beaten losing 1/4 of their seats.

  5. Liz J says:

    Supporting the budget of a corrupt government is supporting corruption.
    Horwath can’t complain about anything else Wynne does if she supports the budget.
    McGuinty leaves a legacy of lies and corruption while he arrogantly stands before us telling more nose stretchers.

    Christie Blatchford has a column in NP today on the subject.

  6. Richco says:

    The Sun’s editorial today here http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/07/daltons-gas-plant-story-is-a-farce

    Simon Kent also has a good column today.

  7. Richco says:

    ….AND, in case you’re dying for your taste of leftist propaganda today, try this on for size from the Toronto Star. It’s all about keeping the PCs at Bay – same old, same old

    http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/05/08/why_kathleen_wynnes_liberals_and_andrea_horwaths_ndp_should_form_an_antitory_coalition_walkom.html

    • Joanne says:

      Yes that’s the same old meme – “however evil and corrupt the Liberal government is, a PC one would be much worse.” Expect that fairy tale to be pumped out big time now and in the next election.

      My question to that type of fear-mongering is, do you have any ‘red line’ at which you would say the Liberals are worse than the PCs or the NDP?

      Personally I think using taxpayer money for political purposes to save two Liberal seats is reason enough, but maybe when the Liberals start funneling our taxes directly to their party bank account that will wake up the lemmings.

      • Richco says:

        So just how desperate ARE the Ontario Liberals? Desperate enough to use a quote from Sid Ryan on their material. I know folks here don’t like to bother with WK’s website but you’ve got to see it to believe it here http://warrenkinsella.com/

  8. Richco says:

    You know what? I’m someone who loves politics. It’s interested me for a very long time.
    For the first time in many, many years though I am the most turned off of politics in this country and this province now than at any time I can remember.

    I never thought I’d say this in a million years but I’m starting not to care any more.

    • Bubba Brown says:

      It is tiring to stay tuned in every day, to watch the monkey’s in media dancing and prancing while Dalton turns the crank on his lyin’ liar music-box.
      We are getting the dog, pony and cutey pie Christy show out here in BC.
      Just scrolling down the chorus line of articles on National Newswatch is depressing.
      Graves latest crap poll puts more “Liberals in striking distance” yada, bada, booda.
      Liberals federally are acting like a bunch of Golems moaning about “their prreciousss”
      The beat goes on Richco, the odd glimmer of sanity from a writer like Blatchford keeps me going.
      As for the rest, well it ain’t over till Ellie sings, funny how her musings always end up being quoted as if they were anything approaching reality.
      We have seen 4 Baby T info-mercials so far two from the Conservative Party and two from the Liberals.
      Funny well, peculiar thing is they all star Justin.
      The latest with him celebrating a million dollars in donations, which is no big deal.
      PC’s take in what 25-35 million a year.
      Shocking though Liberals reaching into their own pockets.
      With enough time and effort Justin might make a credible opposition Leader.
      If he ever shows up for work.
      Muclair seems to be worshiping at Al Gore’s feet, manbearpig loove?
      I think we would have been looking at # 5 if Justin’s brazen attempt to use a bunch of school kids as backdrop had not been halted.
      The sheer brass of a Dalton or a Christy Clarke is maddening but we have to keep on keeping on.
      I get fed up too Richco particularly when most people just don’t want to know, that is hard to take.
      What keeps me encouraged is you folks here, it does matter.
      Take care.

  9. Liz J says:

    The more I go over what McGuinty said yesterday the more sleazy it becomes. The very idea he would use as one of his lame excuses for cancelling the plants the health and safety of school children in those areas. This coming from the King of Green who had no consideration for people living near giant turbines, including children. When you look at places like Wolfe Island, which is polluted with these ugly beasts, the people there have to be very close to the hum, yet not a word.

    This man’s arrogance meter has gone so far over the top it’s no longer registering.

    • Martin says:

      His testimony included this whopper:
      “The gas plants were too close to homes and schools, said McGuinty, and wouldn’t have cleared the rules used to keep giant wind turbines at least 550 metres back from residential neighbourhoods”.

      Wonder is he aware of the CAW turbine in Port Elgin right up against a residential neighbourhood and closer than 550m? Probably not, and the point is he couldn’t care less about it.

  10. Richco says:

    BREAKING – Ontario Politics – Horwath moves the goal posts and demands more from the McWynnety Liberals

    Come on Andrea – put this sad government out of its misery.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2013/05/08/ontario_budget_2013_ndp_leader_andrea_horwath_demands_more_in_exchange_for_supporting_liberals.html

    • Martin says:

      “Tim Hudak, for his part, accused the NDP of “colluding with the Liberals” in a post-budget soap opera”.
      Truer word were never spoken. The problem is the media party hangs on every word of it.

  11. Richco says:

    The National Post piles on. Or DO they? Does it appear that the Harper gov’t is losing its grip? It’s a fair question IMO.

    It’s not like Harper to let things slide like this, and yes, I’m still a loyal CPC but something’s off, even for me. Where I agree with Ivison is his last sentence where he suggests that Harper can turn this around. I believe he will, IF he’s sticking around.

    My concern is that he’s slipping because he’s thinking of calling it quits. I don’t want to believe that but it needs consideration. The tale will be told with the summer cabinet shuffle IMO.

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/05/08/stephen-harpers-conservatives-seem-to-have-lost-their-way/

    • Liz J says:

      Perhaps PM Harper is thinking about his future, I don’t think he’s the sort who would stick around until he becomes stale. He’s accomplished a great deal for Conservatives and for that reason I don’t think he’ll leave the party in a shambles like Chretien and Martin did with the Liberal party. He’s not a man given to self adulation, he’s a man who has a higher purpose.
      He has told us many times he loves his job as PM, we can be sure when he feels the time is right for him to move on he will do so with dignity.

      • Richco says:

        You’re right! Another thing we know about Harper is he considers all possibilities and considers things from all angles.

        Either something’s changed about him of late or something about my perception of him has but I truly hope he sticks things out and fights the next election based on those same principals that got him elected a couple of times before.

        My fear IF he leaves when the Liberals are supposedly riding the hot air of the Justin balloon, is the spin that will come from the usual left-leaning crybabies that it proves that Harper IS really scared of Trudeau and his leaving proves it.

        I hope that he works hard to turn the current issues dogging his gov’t around to his advantage.

    • wilson says:

      The media is just bored, the Prince of Pi is in hiding, so looking for something imaginary in polls to write about.
      Harper lost his grip?
      Not ever going to happen.
      The hard work is being done behind the scenes, out of the prying eyes of the media. They don’t like that much.

      Mulcair nagging PMSH over what is mostly Liberal spending is silly, tho I do think Clement should re-report the years 2007-09 on military spending.

      Time to enjoy the summer and look forward to a very politically charged fall session!

  12. fh says:

    Harper Conservative Majority Canadian Government works hard for Canadian seniors
    http://www.rickdykstra.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1991&Itemid=75

  13. Liz J says:

    Apparently there’s a gas fired plant operating in Dalton’s own riding of Ottawa South and it’s surrounded by schools, hospitals and health care facilities. It was apparently updated in 1992. I just learned of this while listening to the Lowell Green show hosted by Rob Snow this morning on CFRA Ottawa. Tune in, give it a listen, Rob does a great job filling in for Green as well.

    Now will he push his in the dark successor to have it shut down in light of his lies/excuses for his actions in the dying days of his last election campaign?

  14. Fay says:

    Anyone one else watching CTV Craig Oliver back pedalling on Mike Duffy housing allowance scandal?
    There also appears to be some controversy over Elections Canada official announcing there is no investigation into Peter Penashue election overspending???
    The media party apparently running wafer stories all over!

  15. Martin says:

    Re the CPC government difficulties, main Harper beaters like CBC and the Ottawa Citizen have certainly ramped up the vitriol in the last couple of days. Almost the whole editorial and commentary in todays Citizen is given over to reliability or lack thereof of the Household Survey data released yesterday, similarly at CBC site ( About 98% responded to Solomon’s nudging that the data is bogus)
    This is among the weakest arguments possible to attack with, that somehow the voluntary HS data is not comparable with the last census benchmarks. This conceit suggests that every SatsCan survey is exactly the same as its predecessor there are never any discontinuities. In fact this is never the case and SC pays statisticians handsomely to adjust for missing data and project benchmarks.
    Out of the woodwork comes Trudeau Jr. to promise absolutely to reinstate the mandatory census survey. But, if the current HS data doesn’t match up, wouldn’t a revised census survey 5 years away be another break in the data? Someone might want to ask him that, but don’t hold your breath.
    It gives a revealing insight into The LPC view of voters, that they would go to the barricades for the right to answer a mandatory census form. Somehow I would expect Canadians to have different priorities.

    • Liz J says:

      This long form census is just another example of Liberals and their media allies trying to breathe life into a dead horse. When they have nothing better to do with their time, like getting some policies cobbled, digging up bones keeps them busy.

      • Jen says:

        Since the topic of TAX EVASION was subject yesterday the media seem to have forgotten this:

        Barbados Double Tax Treaty with Canada and USA

        Canada’s former Prime Minister and Finance Minister, Paul Martin, uses Barbados for his Canada Steamship Company to avoid Canadian taxes, plus Panama registration on the ships.

        http://www.can-offshore.com/tax-havens/Barbados-tax-haven.htm

      • Martin says:

        Right, and the Citizen has devoted much more space to the non stories at Statistics Canada, over the story of local boy McGuinty defrauding Ont out of $585 m. Some idea of priorities there.

  16. ed says:

    Haven’t heard any criticism of Trudeau by Mulcair. I think those two parties have an informal agreement: go after PM Harper all of the time. They seem to imply there is no connection between the parties but I believe there is – right from day one. That coalition is sitting there, ever ready, waiting for the next election. I think they’d break all the rules once any sign of another Conservative victory appears eminent. Pretty sad, eh?

    Bubba, I agree with your recent comments on Trudeau. That, too, is pretty sad, eh? As for his teaching career, what a farce that is! Let him work as a teacher for at least 10 years in a large comprehensive public high school with 1500 to 2000 students, and teach average students – not, selective, elite, private school students for what, 2 or 3 years at not one but two DIFFERENT schools. If he is successful for those 10 years or so, then he has qualified himself as a teacher and only then. Of course, being a successful teacher does not automatically make you a quality politician nor, certainly, a leader. The same holds true for any profession. Electrician, plumber, accountant, engineer, etc., you need years before you’re fully qualified. Oh, yeah, teaching drama is not the same as running a regular classroom either. :-)

    Come on, Montreal, you gotta win tonight!! Carey Price has not been his usual self. He seems to be fighting the puck, down on his knees all the time instead of being that stand up goalie. I think he’s experiencing a lack of confidence. Either that or something else is bothering him. Meanwhile Toronto is in the same boat. Somehow, that doesn’t bother me. :-)

  17. Fay says:

    Ian Capstick needs to be held accountable over his comments on Evan Solomon’s Power and politics about protesters calling for a stop to gendercide. Lisa Frulla, John Ivison and Stockwell Day all were shocked and taken aback. No big deal for Evan. Just had a smirk on his face and looked like he might break out in applause after Ian’s rant.
    Sell the CBC!

    • Gabby in QC says:

      Sell Ian instead!
      Yeah, I know, that doesn’t make much sense.

      But at least for once Capstick was told just how rude he is, by John Ivison. Ivison resumed what he was saying by remarking “… before I was rudely interrupted …”. Capstick regularly has temper tantrums but usually fellow panelists just let it go.

      I’m finding it harder and harder to watch Power & Politics for the entire two hours. Evan Solomon continues to irritate me no end, the way he constantly interrupts when Conservatives are talking but going mute in rapt attention when opposition members have the floor. He irritates me for his convoluted questions, for his taking on the mantle as supposed spokesman for the “average Canadian”.

      Today, Solomon kept insisting that Mike Duffy’s repayment of whatever past claims he made suggested guilt on Duffy’s part, consequently the RCMP had to be called in. This from the same man who spent some time yesterday suggesting the RCMP may be held in contempt.

      Both Conservative MP Michelle Rempel & Senator Marjory LeBreton should have interrupted Solomon in turn, asking him whether he’s a lawyer, since he’s so convinced that even after the Deloitte examination & assessment of Duffy’s case, there were grounds for further action, i.e. calling in the cops.

      • Joanne says:

        That was awesome how John Ivison asserted himself!

        • Martin says:

          CBC moved with lightning speed to fire Tom Flanagan, let’s see how long it takes them to discipline Chapstick for his outrageous remarks.

          • Joanne says:

            I think Ian needs a timeout.

            • Fay says:

              There will be no time out for Ian because Ian fits three of CBC’s special interests. NDP who worked for Jack Layton, gay and resents being raised in a military family. He is their star panelist!

              • Joanne says:

                Then I will have to give CBC a timeout.

              • Richco says:

                Capstick also learned everything he knows now from Ontario politics. Does that tell you anything at all? He was a jerk 15 years ago and he’s still a jerk.

      • Liz J says:

        Well, Duffy’s a Conservative Senator so he’s got to be twice a guilty as any Liberal Senator.
        I love Marjorie LeBreton, she’s one classy lady and beyond reproach.

        At some point, when all the various Liberal media hacks get finished with this Senator affair I hope Duffy litigates for defamation of character. He’s the one they really tore into the most.

  18. fh says:

    this is the truth Canada reduces pollution
    http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/05/08/canada-carbon-emissions/?NewsWatchCanada.ca
    why does the msm mislead Canadians???????

  19. fh says:

    the truth about carbon dioxide
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323528404578452483656067190.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
    why are MSM misleading Canadians?????
    anyone a fan of TV show The Good Wife ???????
    during election of Peter Florick, debate in a court room, about a suspicious ballot box containing early votes cast occurs.( too funny ) Lawyers argue for and then switch sides and argue against sound familiar
    Reminds me of Canadian mainstream media

  20. fh says:

    Ontario wake up our water Hydro power generation is our winning hand
    http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/05/01/turning-water-into-debt/

    Hydro Power was before Dalton’s Liberals took up the green energy plan for Ontario
    water is GREEN ENERGY!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Liz J says:

    Appears all’s well in Liberal Ontario, Dalton has told his tall tale under oath, hand on the Holy Bible, and you’d be hard pressed to find any more coverage in print media on the subject. The beat goes on, the tag team of Andrea and Kathleen will save us from having to go to the polls while we’re busy planting our gardens.

  22. Richco says:

    Ontario Politics – Shut-up already Andrea. Just vote against the budget and quit grandstanding. What more do you need?
    http://www.cp24.com/news/horwath-to-unveil-another-demand-for-budget-support-1.1275305

    • Martin says:

      Continuing this tease as long as possible keeps her name and face in the media, which seems to be the only purpose. The media is gullible enough to play along with her, which is a shame.

      • Liz J says:

        If Horwath supports the budget she can shut her pie hole, she’ll have nothing to complain about after allowing this seamless transition from McGuinty to Wynne to wreck more havoc on this province.
        It’s also not saying much for their respect for democracy when they allow a leader chosen by a party to run the province. When this occurs an election should be called as soon as possible with the new leader.

  23. fh says:

    it is an uphill battle this posted on blogging tories
    please if we conservatives quote our politicians try to quote accurately do not repeat the MSM spin
    http://corymorgan.com/i-can-oppose-this-without-supporting-that/

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