Tale of Two Torontos (2.0)

O.K.  Let’s try this again. Yesterday there was some kind of cyber meltdown when I tried to upload a post about Rob Ford. Eventually I had to remove it.  I blame the leftwing Toronto cabal.

(Kidding!)

In any case, the story has advanced since that point in time because Justice Hackland has allowed Rob Ford to run in a by-election to replace himself after all (in the event he loses the appeal and council doesn’t appoint an unelected temporary replacement that is).

Yesterday I was trying to explore the notion of two solitudes in Toronto. The downtown elitists really, really dislike Ford – to put it mildly. Others see him as a populist champion who is doing exactly what he said he would do – clean up the entitlement at City Hall and run things more efficiently.

In today’s Post Terence Corcoran and Rex Murphy both eloquently underscore that division.

Corcoran refers to the Haters as “fantasy rock throwers, the usual collection of leftists and waffly centrists, cringing sophisticates, downtown Liberals, Toronto Star columnists, CBC reporters, Ryerson academics and would-be mayoral candidates who would like to maintain the old quasi-corrupt ways that have long dominated Toronto city government.”

More:

Rob Ford is the nearest Toronto has come in recent years to having a straight-shooting shit-disturber at city hall, someone who tends not to play along with the ingrown culture of municipal governance that has dominated Toronto politics for decades.

This is a city government where councillors have used their city budgets on parties, video cameras, dinners, lunches and — of all things — to make charitable donations. The office of former Mayor David Miller, a card-carrying downtown-lefty, once filed $15,000 in expenses for donations to various charities, including the Senior Pride Network…

Rex Murphy refers to the whole legal debacle as a “lurid reality show starring dysfunctional, petty and self-absorbed politicians — of whom Rob Ford is merely the most visible and annoying.”

He calls the city itself a “factory for tribal grudges: the hip versus the hicks, downtown versus the suburbs.”

Ford seems to bring out the worst in these elites:

Ford was unacceptable to one faction from the second he was elected. He was Dogpatch. They were Park Avenue. He was grit. They were pearls. They schemed and he bulldozed. If ever there was a politico who gave his enemies a staff to beat him, it was Rob Ford…

Murphy isn’t optimistic that these two solitudes will ever be able to work harmoniously together:

…Will the national embarrassment following this unofficial coup be something of a cure for its excesses? No. Just wait for the now inevitable by-election to choose the next mayor. The whole episode will not really change the character of Toronto’s municipal leadership. It will merely have extended and revivified the feuds and factionalism that brought us to this sad point.

The thing is though that occasionally we need Rob Fords in our political system to shake things up a bit. It is regrettable that he isn’t able to tone down some of his rougher sides but that is Rob. What you see is what you get.

However I don’t see the culture of entitlement changing longterm at City Hall as long as downtown residents and academic elites keep electing leftist hacks and mediocrities.

You get the government you deserve, Toronto.

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Updates

A few more good links here at Newsbeat 1.

And Christie Blatchford has been doing a stellar job on the Rob Ford file. Her latest column delves into the bio of the mastermind behind the Ford take-down – Adam Chaleff-Freudenthaler.   ‘Citizen’ Paul Magder was merely the aggrieved face in front of the cameras.

In Dark day for democracy in Toronto Charles Adler makes a comparison to the 2008 federal coalition crisis and attempted coup d’etat.

Here’s the thing Lefties: Try taking down your opponents the old-fashioned way – in an election. That’s the way we do things here in Canada.

Ford regime tames city spendingSun (H/T Jack’s Newswatch)

Walkom: Why Toronto council should appoint Rob Ford to replace Rob FordStar!

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43 Responses to Tale of Two Torontos (2.0)

  1. Bec says:

    When this first happened, I was outraged however I have grown to appreciate the situation because I have learned so much more about Rob Ford and what he faces every day when he goes to work. ‘What you see is what you get’ equals real.

    A true warrior fighting elitist bullies. These people should be publicly shamed for this attack on a good man and I suspect they may be.

    Admitting he was wrong, trying a non-confrontational approach would have been ideal for him and this would have never happened but if it had never happened would we have learned the honesty, humility, positive intent and selfless kindness behind this big teddy bear? And would we learn that these bullies know this about him and still attack and hate him?
    It’s a silver lining.

    • Richco says:

      I like this paragraph from Rex’s column

      “Toronto city hall is the longest-running circus in Canada. The passage from Mel Lastman to Rob Ford — via the interregnum of David Miller, a central-casting elitist with a Prius and a Harvard pedigree — has not been an advance, but more a change of ringmaster.”

      It’s true.

  2. Tripper523 says:

    Bravo ROB FORD!! This reminds me of our Prime Minister’s big comeback after quashing the proposed Coalition of Stooges. It’s always Common Sense versus the Lofty Left. A classic case of the little guy (figure of speech) trying to fight City Hall, from within. Sure hope this is the open door to get back in and throw his weight around again. “In through the out door” may not be the most glamorous entrance, but a return to responsible fiscal leadership is the most promising course for Toronto. For Mr. Ford personally, it could be a return to Hell, but his asbestos suit (XXXL) is tried and true.

  3. Mary T says:

    This comment was made elsewhere, by someone else, but bears repeating
    A Ford is good all year round, a Carol only at Christmas.
    What if a by election is held and Ford increases his majority aka Scott Walker.
    Would the lefties accept that or would they continue to undermine him. And what would happen when those others on council face re-election.

  4. paulsstuff says:

    A very telling comment was made by Adam Vaughan on 102.1FM Friday. He boasted how since Ford become mayor the lefty coucillors had “worked around him”. Basically stating screw the 400,000 that democratically elected Ford, my socialist ideals are what we will make happen, screw the rights ideals.

    • Richco says:

      Adam Vaughan drives me nuts! That they worked around his isn’t a surprise.
      Odd thing is that I think both the Fords – Rob and Doug – will come out of this ok.

      I actually think that outside of the cocktail socialist elites in the core support is stronger than ever for Rob Ford.

      If this doesn’t work out for him I’m sure he would really kick some ass provincially for the PCs. I don’t think he’s done.

  5. wilson says:

    Another case of leftie losers wanting a do-over cuz they lost.
    Did you see where Toronto council passed a motion ordering EDMONTON to follow their lead and send OUR elephant to greener pastures.
    Who are these clowns??? Just fire them all and start over.

  6. jon says:

    One of the odds-on favourites to replace Ford as mayor is councillor Adam Vaughan — a former left-leaning journalist who has worked at just about every news channel in the city, and with plenty of friends in the Media Party to shill for him.

    Assuming Ford’s loses his appeal, I really hope Vaughan becomes the main challenger because he will have plenty difficulties getting elected in the suburbs (where 2/3 of T.O residents live), considering the comments he made about its residents after he was asked by reports before the last election if he was considering then getting into the race himself.

    “In the wake of Miller’s withdrawal from the campaign, Vaughan told reporters that he won’t run for mayor because ‘I can’t get inside the heads of those people who live in the suburbs’, and because he wants to be around for his family.”

    As with Justin Trudeau’s anti-Alberta comments, Vaughan’s words will surely come back to haunt him with Ford — and those of us who make up ‘Ford Nation’ — being all-too-pleased at reminding suburbanites of how this downtown elitist views them as being second class citizens of our city.

    So far, though, in spite of talking about Vaughan being a possible contender, the Media Party is pretending they’re unaware of Vaughan’s condescending remarks from 2010 (“ancient history”, I guess, as it was with JT) and are surely hoping that it doesn’t emerge. Sadly for them, however, it will be SNN yet again, I’m sure, that will lead the charge and will be bringing up his comments in and when this sack of sh*t makes his bid official.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_mayoral_election,_2010

  7. jon says:

    Olivia Chow is another favourite. In the lead up to the 2010 vote, the Media Party brought up all of Ford’s baggage from the past… let’s see if they do the same with Chow’s, particularly when she was a T.O. city councilor and a member of the Police Service’s Board and had to resign her position on the board after she put on her bicycle helmet, left city hall and rode up to Queen’s Park to participate in a violent OCAP riot.

    ‘We have received information from our members that Olivia Chow interfered with police activity and overstepped her authority as a member of the police services board,’ state the Toronto Police Association in a news release.

    ‘We are asking the Chief of Police to have Olivia Chow investigated for criminal acts, including Breach of Trust, Obstruct Police, as well as breaches under the Police Services Act.’

    ‘Based on the substantive information received, the Board of Directors of the Association demands that Olivia Chow immediately resign from the police services board.’

    Chow eventually resigned from the Police Services Board after numerous news cameras caught her interfering with a T.O. police officer who was in the midst of arresting one of the OCAP rioters.

    As with Ford, the Media Party better be bringing her baggage into the campaign…. but of course won’t.

    Again, it will be the SNN that will have to do the job that the Media Party refuses to do.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2000/0004a8.htm

  8. jon says:

    A previous post I made, related to T.O. councilor Adam Vaughan, seems to be stuck in the filter and should precede the post about Chow. Sorry about that.

  9. jon says:

    In case a previous post of mine didn’t get stuck in the filter and simply didn’t go through (sometimes the browser screen goes blank and it’s not even sent), here it is again….

    One of the odds-on favourites to replace Ford as mayor is councilor Adam Vaughan — a former left-leaning journalist who has worked at just about every news channel in the city, and with plenty of friends in the Media Party to shill for him.

    Assuming Ford’s loses his appeal, I really hope Vaughan becomes the main challenger because he will have plenty difficulties getting elected in the suburbs (where 2/3 of T.O residents live), considering the comments he made about its residents after he was asked by reports before the last election if he was considering then getting into the race himself.

    “In the wake of Miller’s withdrawal from the campaign, Vaughan told reporters that he won’t run for mayor because ‘I can’t get inside the heads of those people who live in the suburbs’, and because he wants to be around for his family.”

    As with Justin Trudeau’s anti-Alberta comments, Vaughan’s words will surely come back to haunt him with Ford — and those of us who make up ‘Ford Nation’ — being all-too-pleased at reminding suburbanites of how this downtown elitist views them as being second class citizens of our city.

    So far, though, in spite of talking about Vaughan being a possible contender, the Media Party is pretending they’re unaware of Vaughan’s condescending remarks from 2010 (“ancient history”, I guess, as it was with JT) and are surely hoping that it doesn’t emerge. Sadly for them, however, it will be SNN yet again, I’m sure, that will lead the charge and will be bringing up his comments if-and-when this sack of sh*t makes his bid official.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_mayoral_election,_2010

  10. Martin says:

    jon 2:12

    I doubt if Olivia Chow would risk running for mayor in a contest where all Toronto residents could vote.
    She would have to answer to her entitlement issues; she and Jack Layton racked up parliamentary expenses of $1.16 m in 2009-10, despite living together and representing ridings 250 miles from Ottawa. This was far above any other MP expenses. She famously snapped that their expenses were legal.
    There is also the old charge of living in subsidized metro housing, while both her and Layton were city councilors. Socialist representatives never come cheap.

    • Richco says:

      I agree Martin. I see Chow similar to the LPOC’s fawning of Baby Trudeau. When you get over the sentimentality of these two, there’s really not much else there.

  11. paulsstuff says:

    Let’s make it really interesting. Challenge those on the left. How’s about if Ford wins, in order to save the $7 million another election would cost in two years, we just start this as a new term of office lasting 4 years if he wins.

    As for Adam Vaughan, forget about him running. He’d not take a chance on losing his seat,err, make that place at the trough, if he ran for mayor and lost.

    • jon says:

      It would be great if mayor Ford could get another 4 years instead of simply serving out the remaining 2 on his current mandate, should he win a byelection. The only problem with that, however, is it would mean that the current crop of councilors would be in for 6 since any byelection that’s held would be one to elect a mayor and not one where councilors themselves would run.

      As a side issue, something I’ve found of interest is that in the days preceding the judge’s clarification, the Media Party wasn’t all too concerned with the cost of a byelection because it was their belief that the judge’s initial ruling meant Ford couldn’t run… instead they were too excited at the prospect of having a mayor Vaughan or a mayor Chow to be concerned with the taxpayer in any way. But on the day the judge ruled that Ford could run, and in the days since, the Media Party has brought up the cost of an election — not so much because they actually care about taxpayers, but more so, I believe, because they fear Ford could actually win and would now prefer to have a caretaker mayor in place for the remainder of Ford’s mandate rather than risk the possibility of another victory by him. What an absolute smack down for them that would be.

  12. Liz J says:

    How about motor mouth Gerard Kennedy for Premier? Apparently he’s leading in some freaking poll or other.

  13. Bubba Brown says:

    The ousting of Mayor Ford is a destruction of any and all democratic principal.
    This is as bad as the attempted coup d’etat by the three horse’s a***’s after the last election.
    This can not and must not stand.
    Ordinary Canadians, particularly in Municipal elections must get off their butts, get informed, and vote!
    Years ago I had a 45 minute phone conversation with Mr Ruby regarding a matter he was advocating.
    He is a first rate legal mind.
    That being said this is still wrong, dangerous to our democracy and must be overturned.
    I believe those opposing MR Ford thought he would be ineligable to run again, would be rich if he swept the board.
    Some saving 3000 dollars for a kids team versus 7,000,000 for a new election
    Remember when Paul Martin lost a vote in the house and continued on as if nothing at all happened
    If I lived in TO I would be pounding on doors for Mr Ford.

    • jon says:

      “Ordinary Canadians, particularly in Municipal elections must get off their butts, get informed, and vote!”

      I believe if a byelection is held Ford would likely win, though I have a bias in saying that. And he would probably get a lesser percentage of the vote, simply as a result of the controversies swirling around him, many of course, manufactured such as the one that has us where we are today. A Ford victory should certainly silence the left but I’m sure they’d find something to pick apart — just as was done in the post analysis with Calgary-Centre, citing the reduced margin as some sort of defeat when all it really serves to do is display their sour grapes toward the result.

  14. fh says:

    on thinking hard about Agenda 21 and Glen Beck they are very related to Rob Ford and Toronto
    Please PLEASE watch

  15. fh says:

    we need to bring up the true meaning of coming second in the May 02, 2011 general election and more important the true meaning of the election of the first place strong stable Conservative Government
    you can see each Province results
    http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/FederalRidingsHistory/hfer.asp?Language=E&Search=Gres&genElection=41&ridProvince=1&submit1=Search

  16. Richco says:

    here’s another great column to add to your collection Joanne
    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/11/30/marni-soupcoff-maybe-were-the-ones-who-owe-rob-ford-an-apology/
    I find it odd that WK is spinning so hard against Ford that I believe it’s actually helping Ford….just like in the municipal election.
    Also telling is what the usual liberal spinners are not talking about….their own party.

  17. Liz J says:

    “Remaining ford fans risk radioactivity” say WK in his over the top scratchings in the Sun chain today.
    WK has the gall to mention the word scandal referring to Ford, if he wants to talk scandals there are plenty to talk about in the ongoing tragedy of the McGuinty regime.

  18. ed says:

    I’ll take Rob Ford any day over those cross-wired lefties. Hopefully, the tide is turning in Toronto. You’ll never be “right” when you continue to vote “left”. Rob Ford’s shortcomings are minuscule when compared to those on the left.

  19. fh says:

    this might be a twitter account worth following
    http://twitter.com/DianaC2020?protected_redirect=true
    Mark Carney’s wife

  20. fh says:

    anyone familiar with Canada 2020? many liberals are in control of this organization

  21. Liz J says:

    Appears there’s not much doubt among Liberal “insiders” , including the media hacks, of the political bent of our soon to be former Bank of Canada Governor.

  22. fh says:

    this is something that BUGS me
    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/11/30/andrew-coyne-one-time-only-electoral-pact-could-cure-our-voting-system-problems/
    I looked at the results of May 02, 2011 elections everyone should take time and have a look
    Quebec ndpq 13 of their Candidates won with over 50%
    12 of their candidates won with only in the 30% range
    the rest in 40% or perhaps higher than 50% you can have a look

    Ontario Concervatives 40 of their candidates won with over 50%
    6 of their candidates won with only in the 30% range
    the rest 40% or many higher than 50% take a look for yourself

    kinda hard to believe the rhetoric isn’t it that ndpq spout every day that Conservatives were elected with only 30%

    • Martin says:

      By definition the only complainers in q FPP system are the losing parties. No mention was made of any problems when Liberals were racking up very similar voting percentages a few years ago. The last PM to exceed 50% of the vote was Brian Mulroney, something P Trudeau never achieved.
      With 4 or 5 parties operating federally, a PR system would be certain to bring permanent minority situations.The current agreement that E May is talking up involves some kind of cooperation with Liberals NDP and Greens (BQ?) for the next election. I see no reason whatever for the other opposition parties to cooperate with May. Judging by the vitriolic hissing match between May and the NDP MP on P&P last week, I see little mutual goodwill between these two parties. If she wants to play with the big boys, May has to offer voters attractive policy alternatives. A mellower communications strategy would not hurt either, arguably the Greens would do better with a less confrontational leader.

  23. Joanne says:

    Amazing how Paul Magder has so much power: “Ouster of Mayor Rob Ford put on hold as both sides agree on stay.” (Global)

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