2015 Nightmare

Fortunately we have our Strong, Stable, Conservative Majority Government right now, but the polls show a worrying trend. The NDP is nipping at the heels of the Tories and the Liberals are falling further behind (Abacus).

Thomas Mulcair is obviously able to galvanize the anti-Harper and anti-oil sands sentiment.

That could lead to a nightmare scenario not just for the Liberals, but for the whole country if the NDP were able to form government.

As Lorrie Goldstein points out in NDP green plan bad news, Mulcair’s massive cap-and-trade plan is “NDP code for higher taxes and bigger government” – and could spell economic disaster for Canada.

Of course the extreme left faction of the NDP support group would be delighted to witness that outcome.

 

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67 Responses to 2015 Nightmare

  1. frmgrl says:

    One cannot believe any poll by any pollster since our Alberta election. ALL pollsters got is very wrong. They ALL showed Wildrose leading by a healthy margin even just a couple days before the election. They ALL ended up with egg on their faces. None of them have any credibility in my books.

    So do I take this poll seriously? No!

    • old white guy says:

      i agree i take polls with a grain of salt. we are a long way out from an election and the polls mean very little. as far as the ndp verses the libs all i see are two socialist parties that have the same platform. bob rae is not a liberal and never was. the liberal party has been socialist all my life and might just as well join with the ndp. the options for canada are socialist lite, the conservatives, or full on socialism with th libs and/or ndp.

  2. Platty says:

    Being from Alberta, and having just gone through an election where the “experts” had our election all figured out, it will take a while, if ever, for me to believe any pollsters results. If those pollsters, and Abacus was one of them, can get it so wrong just weeks ahead of an election, why would anyone put any stock in polling done three years out from an election?

    This from Abacus:

    Wildrose Headed Towards Win Wildrose leads in Calgary and outside the cities; PCs ahead in Edmonton Ottawa – A new survey from Abacus Data conducted for the Sun News Network finds that heading into the final weekend of the campaign, Wildrose has a 10 percentage point lead over the incumbent PCs.
    -

    • frmgrl says:

      I agree the pollsters have lost all credibility, should not be trusted including Abacus. You’d think they’d be hiding their faces in shame. Guess it all comes down to the all mighty dollar.

      • Richco says:

        exactly frmgrl – polls and the consensus media have proven time and time again how wrong and unreliable they have been.

    • Sean M says:

      I agree with Platty, although, It seems to me pollsters were wrong in they’re prognostications regarding the Alberta election because “Liberal” voters lied about their voting intentions… saying they were voting “Liberal”, but intending to vote for the Red Queen all along. Having said that, I do find these polls somewhat of a worry, but there is such a long way to go before the next election and french citizen Mulcair is a nut case just waiting to say and do something insane. Could it be possible the country elects a french citizen as the PM ..? Well, people did vote for Trudeau over and over again so I guess it’s not intirely impossible that Canadians would vote for another deranged revolutionary. For the sake of the country, I sure hope not.

  3. Kelly (@Usual5uspect) says:

    Hmm. Not really worried. Polls are irrelevant 3 years before an election.

    Beyond that, I like it the CPC is up against the loony NDP instead of the Liberals. As long as the CPC stays united and hugs the centre during elections, the NDP is going no where. The median voter is slightly to the right of centre and they will never hand power to a bunch of amateurs from either extreme.

    Essentially, the NDP is where Reform was in the 90’s and Harper has all the advantages Chretien enjoyed. Things have never been better for the right in Canada :)

    • Richco says:

      I really like the odds of a hothead like Mulcair leading the NDP Kindergarten Opposition against a Harper-led CPC.

      I also think that Harper would like this also.

  4. Liz J says:

    Talk about nightmare scenarios, NDP, or whatever he is,Mulcair as Prime Minister of Canada?

    Sorry, can’t even discuss such a death wish for the country, let the pollsters stir the electoral pot trying to keep themselves in the news and somehow relevant with an election more than three years down the road.

    Sad we can’t have media, scribes and commentators telling us all the good news about how well this country is doing under the Harper Conservatives, we have to dig for it ourselves.

    • Soccermom says:

      Truly, the thought of PM Mulcair is absolutely frightening. I would see that as the day Western Separation becomes a very strong possibility.

      I hope that day doesn’t come, but we have to protect our own. It would be all-out war on the West.

      I happen to think, however, that future PM Wall would save the day here.

  5. Bubba Brown says:

    Poll, shmools, The last leader of the NDP thought that 787 Dundas Street was a Community Center with a “licenced Shiatsu masseuse”.
    The reality was starkly different.
    That Tommy Muclair thinks that a cap and trade would save the planet is not really suprising.
    After all his deputy leader Libby Davies thinks 911 was an inside job and that new immigrants should get Canada Pension.
    She has put private members bills forward what 5 or 6 times to try and make that a reality.
    I think we all need to relax we are 3 years out from an election NDPQ-F Dear Leader will blow a gasket long before then.
    I don’t think I have ever seen someone in public life so wound up and ready to go into “spin cycle”
    Them dippers sure know how to pick ‘em.
    Keep ranting Tommy!

  6. potato says:

    Not sure about throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Pollsters often do get it right. One poll may be dismissed but if this becomes a trend I would consider that very worrying. Maybe this is an indication of just how acceptable Progressivism is to a large segment of the Canadian population. The NDP becoming the governing party means implementing the UN agenda on a national level. Say goodbye to whatever rights and freedoms you now enjoy because those will soon be dictated by a distant Soviet getting its marching orders from the UN.

  7. Calgary Junkie says:

    One of the things the Alberta election showed us, is just how incredibly fickle many of the lefty voters are. In our case, the Liberal vote collapsed, and went to the PCs (our Dipper voters remained pretty faithful). In Quebec, we saw them dump the Bloc for Jack (the Bloc remains weak, in this Abacaus poll).

    The lefties are pretty well unfathonable to me, so I’ll cut the pollsters some slack, whenever they get their voting intentions wrong. I remain very confident that Harper and his CPC inner circle of political strategists have got these socialists figured out, and so can keep them marginalized. There’s lots of weak spots and conflicts within this loose Dipper coalition.

    It’s obviously very important for the CPC team to remain strong, united and firing on all cylinders when October 2015 rolls around. The last thing we need is for a lot of small ‘c’ conservative “purists” to show their displeasure by not even showing up to vote. Cut our leader some slack guys, the stakes are just too high.

  8. Jen says:

    A slight o/t., Do any of you remember when Obama called upon nations to take in some of the Gitmo prisoners so that he can close down the place?
    And do you remember when the opposition parties in canada ask that the minority Conservative party then to follow Obama request but the PM said no but will only accept on prisoner Omar k. since he is canadian but definetely not the others?

    I remember reading in the NP back then that Winnepeg I think said that they wouldn’t mind having the Gitmo prisoners.

  9. Nicola T. says:

    It is a nightmare scenario similar to the one here in Quebec when we keep having the Parti Quebecois as the alternate government as there is no other strong opposition party (the party of François Legault which replaced the Action Democratique party is way behind the Parti Quebecois). I wonder if PM Harper and the Tories were so smart to work so hard to sink the Liberals.

  10. Dollops - Eric Doll says:

    Yes, be afraid. BC was the best governed province in Canada through years of Socred administrations but the voters turned to the NDP anyway. Jolted back to reality, this province’s voters then put the Socreds back in, only to fall for the leftist dirty tricks and propaganda again a few years later. We have never recovered.
    What is the answer? Ask Mike Harris, Mulroney and VanderZalm. Their error was trying to appear moderate in the eyes of the media (which becomes the view of the electorate) when they should have been wearing blinders and pushing forward the best policies they were capable of. Conservatives will eventually lose democratic elections to panderers and mud-slingers so, given their chance, they must demonstrate the advantage to the individual voter’s wallet and well-being that comes from less government. Cautious, nervous conservatism will only hasten the inevitable loss and lessen the likelihood that voters will see us rescuers from those things they come to wish they had not wished for.

  11. jad says:

    I think the support in the polls is just a typically anti-government vote, which is quite normal between elections.

    A campaign would certainly spotlight some of the NDP’s wilder ideas, and I think the media would get behind the Liberals, which would also cut into the NDP support.

    Besides, how many days into a campaign would we be before Mulcair blew up and self-destructed ???:)

    • Richco says:

      Mulcair is already self-destructing. The Liberals are so unorganized they couldn’t manage to get an ant to a picnic and that’s not going to change any time soon.

    • Fred from BC says:

      My thoughts exactly. The NDP are getting the traditional ‘honeymoon’ bounce in the polls because they have a new leader, and that leader is proving to be such an extremist that he won’t be more than a minor problem for us at election time (if he even lasts that long). Many people seem to be wondering why the Conservatives don’t start running attack ads against Mulcair. What for? He’s doing a fine job of self-destructing on his own…

  12. Plant Guy says:

    I think this may be one of those “be carefull what you wish for, you might get it ” moments. Mr. Harper has worked very hard to make the Liberals go away. He seems to have accomplished that goal. I think he believed that those Liberal voters would gravitate to the Tories, but this does not appear to be the case. Without the Liberals to split the vote with the NDP they may be in a position to have a Liberal-NDP coalition the old fashioned way, by getting the Liberal votes.

    • Richco says:

      I don’t think that would happen because Harper’s managed to straddle that middle so well that he’s not left much room for the NDP to wiggle through even WITH Liberals tagging along.

    • Sean M says:

      Interesting scenario… however, the “Liberals” haven’t been liberals for decades. More like Liberals of convenience. Trudeau was no Liberal, he just said he was for the sake of gaining power, Chretin, Dion, the same. In the end IMO the NDP will be seen for the radical anti democrats, commies and socialists that they are, and they’re led by a french citizen with seriously questionable loyalties and sanity.

  13. Martin says:

    I also believe polls don’t have a lot of credibility 3 years down the road. By then Quebec may well have a PQ government, supporting a revitalized BQ. Three weeks is a long time in politics, 3 years an eternity. Most polls and scenarios suggest Mulcair can win ignoring Alberta, Sask and rural Ont, but I am not convinced. In the next few years McGuinty plans to dramatically enlarge Ont’s wind factories despite the effects on the environment and energy prices. In this he is abled and abetted by the NDP’s A Horwath. A glance at rural newspapers or windconcernsontario suggest the extent of hatred for these policies. I wonder how much of Ont’s polling sample includes these counties.
    While Mulcair is an able politician and former (Liberal) cabinet minister, what of the rest of the Team? Will Canadians really vote for an executive featuring Libby Davis and Megan Leslie? These are just the best known of the NDP team, others are even more extreme.

    • Richco says:

      It’s not just the wind turbine and green energy issues in rural/small town Ontario. I heard just this past weekend that when it comes to OPG and casinos, McGuinty’s going to allegedly lock municipalities out of the decision-making on the issue of casinos, and racing.

      Just add it to the growing list of issues that has McGuinty ignoring municipalities and their wishes.

      • Sasha says:

        The Liberals got caught in their own games. I would say, that when they turned a deaf ear to the problems with the “Smart Meter”, while the concern grew over all of B.C. with some 45 municipalities demanded moratoriums, and still the Liberals did not very conveniently respond, that is when their polls went down. So it may not mean a lot down the road. But when you start to tally it all up, you know that their interests lie with Corporations and not with the people.That’s why they went down in the polls. And they are drowning. Resign Rich and Cristy time is up.!

  14. David says:

    Muclair has the formula to beat Harper. Anti-oil, tax and spend while playing central Canada off against the west.

    At the moment Ontario sees itself as part of the hard working west rather than the socialist east, that will change if Muclair keeps hammering on the idea that a strong Alberta is bad for Ontario.

    • Martin says:

      Only the gullible in urban Ont might believe this, and even they can look at their hydro bills and see what Green Shift, GEA policies lead to. Rural Ont is some distance ahead in this regard. Rmember the night of the Ont election commentators were predicting a McGuinty majority right up till midnight when it became clear it wouldn’t happen. It won’t happen federally either, for Liberal/NDP.

  15. Lorraine says:

    I would like to see these polls broken down by region-for example if you take Quebec OUT of the statistics where does the NDP stand in the Rest of Canada.
    Ditto for results showing Conservative support.
    Quebec always skews the national results. If the media and pollsters were truly being up front and honest they would show us this analysis but it makes better scary headlines to show the NDP in the lead don’t you think?

  16. fh says:

    no worries look at this site

    http://news.gc.ca/web/dsptch-dstrbr-eng.do?mthd=tp&crtr.tp1D=1

    this is our Conservative Government hard at work

  17. paulsstuff says:

    The polls reflect how abysmal Bob Rae would be as permanent Liberal leader more than a reflection of any supposed appeal Mulclair may be having. If I were to give advice to the Conservatives, it would be to use Mulclair’s oilsands rhetoric against him in Ontario, sending out the message Mulclair is only worried about Quebec.

    Maybe I’m wrong, but I think there is a lot more anti-Quebec sentiment (Gabby not included) in Ontario than anti-oilsands.

  18. Jen says:

    BCBLUE has a question for you :Looking for readers’ questions to ask director of documentary UN Me

    https://bcblue.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/looking-for-readers-questions-to-ask-director-of-documentary-un-me/#comment-26361

  19. Gabby in QC says:

    Re: validity of polls … I think the inaccuracy of the polls in the Alberta election is just another symptom of the general incertitude of the times: the general public doubts the objectivity and credibility of most of our institutions, including formerly reputable polling firms. That inaccuracy may indicate either that respondents have no qualms about lying to pollsters or that respondents’ opinions can turn on a dime.

    More speculation on my part: I think PM Harper may decide to step down for the 2015 election (not that I’m wishing it!) and either John Baird or Jason Kenney will take up the reins.

    I hope the Conservatives stay away from personal attacks on Mulcair, like his short fuse & his dual citizenship, instead concentrating on how damaging his party’s policies would be for the country.

    Reading Mulcair’s plan for “sustainable development” when he headed Quebec’s Ministry of the Environment sounds like the usual enviro-babble.
    http://www.mddep.gouv.qc.ca/biodiversite/2004-2007/enbref-en.htm#major
    Major Sustainable Development Intervention

  20. Gabby in QC says:

    Ooops! I see my comment on the topic of this thread ended up in jail, with only one link.

  21. climatecriminal says:

    Gabby;
    even if the conservatives do ads pointing out Mulclairs’ and the NDP’s lunatic socialist ideology, the Evan Solomon’s of the word will still call them personal attacks

    • Gabby in QC says:

      Well, they can say up is down and blue is red all they want, but it won’t change reality. It’s up to the Conservatives and their supporters to set the record straight as much as possible without using the same questionable tactics others use against us. At least, that’s the way I see it. But, as I’ve said in the past, I’m no political startegist. I just like things to be debated honestly, without hitting below the belt.

  22. Gabby in QC says:

    Correction: “startegist” should of course be “strategist”.

  23. Fay says:

    Has anyone else seen any sign of Rob Ford in Toronto today. Lots of Dalton McGuinty but no sign of Toronto’s mayor.

  24. Sammy says:

    O/T,but VERY relevant and MUST watch ..Bill O’Reilly will be doing some exposing of the leftwing loon protest groups on his show tonite..who is behind them etc.He had his own run in with them on wk-end.He has promised to hit them hard..something the rest of the msm won’t do.

  25. Sammy says:

    BTW,as for a Dipper Gov’t having power,the rest of Canada should pay attention to how prov.dipsh*ts are ruining Manitoba.they mismanaged the flood situation,broke promises..and I KNOW that there has been some major screw-ups in dealing with the recent forest fires.I happen to live within few miles of the SE Man. fires,and got to meet some of the pilots (waterbombers) that saved us..God Bless them all! My hubby flies too,and it was he that introduced me to them.I also had personal conv.with some of the Nat.Resources folks,and they all pretty much agreed,the management of the fire was a “cluster*#@k” of monstrous proportions.I am just waiting for info to trickle out.So,scary indeed the thot of a National dipper gov’t.

    • Fay says:

      The Manitoba NDP government is also dividing Manitoba into the haves in Winnipeg and the have nots in rural Manitoba. A friend of mine was shocked at the terrible condition of highways outside of Winnipeg and then justified it by claiming that Selinger has no money left for rural Manitoba after last years floods. This is the NDP way… pit friends and families against each other.

  26. fh says:

    we still have the best most sane thinkers on our side

    http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_2_apocalyptic-daze.html

  27. Liz J says:

    The NDP party chose Mulcair hoping to hold on to their seats in Quebec which landed them into official opposition. Mulcair is a misfit in the ROC, he’s well on his way to proving it. IMO, the NDP is a divided party and all the divides deserve each other.

  28. fh says:

    SDA has video that is a must see

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/

  29. wilson says:

    The LPC will have a leadership race, and their numbers will go up.
    Libs want Quebec back.
    The Bloc wants Quebec back.
    The West has new Conservative seats in 2015.

    And with half the NDPQ reps sitting in Quebec, many of them seppies who want their own country, it’s not Mulcair’s one trick pony enviro policy Canadians will fear most, it will be National Unity,
    and the changes the NDPQ would make to our Immigration policy, National Defence and Justice system….. imho
    3 years to drag thee issues onto the national stage, expose the NDPQ as a radical left party.

    This doesn’t add up to the NDPQ winning govt, perhaps not even keeping their share of seats they gained from the Bloc and Libs.
    It’s still the Coalition of Losers on the agenda, with seppies in cabinet.

    • Jen says:

      The libs cant work by themselves nor ever will too many loose ends for the NDPQF to wrap around their little finger to use at any given time the ndpq decides. Blame Dion for signing his party with the far radical left.

      So the way the lib function is to join them.

    • Fred from BC says:

      Absolutely. The NDP isn’t even close to being elected government except in their fantasies. The collapse of the Bloc left nowhere for their formers supporters to go but the NDP, and even then they elected people (well, kids, really) who not only hadn’t lived or worked in their ridings…they didn’t even *speak French*. That would normally be impossible, so the only logical conclusion is that the NDP made their big Quebec gains by accident, not because the majority of voters in Quebec suddenly became NDP supporters. The NDP would love to believe that, but privately they know they are on borrowed time.

  30. Jen says:

    I hear that Tim Hudak is going to pay the oilsands a visit.

  31. Sandy says:

    Jo — Could you pass on the information about 2 year old Liam Reid, a wee boy who is going blind because the McGuinty gov’t OHIP policies won’t pay for his U.S. treatment. I have already made a small donation. I don’t know the family personally but Liam’s aunt has been in e-mail contact with me and provided the blog URL where donations can be made. It’s the only way we can fight the current ON govt.

    http://crux-of-the-matter.com/2012/05/23/mcguinty-govt-refuses-ohip-for-blind-2-yr-old-liam-reid-us-treatment/

    Plus, if any other bloggers could put up a short one paragraph post that would help too. I am trying to have this issue go viral to shame McGuinty.

    Twitter addresses: @kinsellawarren @Dalton_McGuinty @LiamsFight

    • Joanne says:

      Babysitting duty today Sandy, but I’ll check into it later. Thanks for the links.

  32. Sandy says:

    Oops. I got the Twitter slightly wrong. It’s @liamsfight
    No caps.

  33. Sandy says:

    Understand Jo. I’ll be putting up another post on the same topic. Hopefully that will help. Apparently Liam’s mom will be interviewed today by Charles Adler.

    Sent you an e-mail yesterday.

    • Joanne says:

      Good stuff Sandy! I’ll check it all out thoroughly when the little guy goes home tonight.

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