PM Harper til at least 2020?

I could live with that.

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Ironically Dalton McGuinty seems to see himself as a mini-Harper but he’s way off track on the main issue: Debt (as well as so many others of course).

Christina Blizzard phrases it well in McGuinty is the Debt Devil:

Last week, U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron, Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty all gave stern warnings about debt — to Europeans.

Meanwhile, under their very noses, the largest province is merrily going down the same road that got Greece into so much trouble and pushed the euro to the brink.

The challenge for whoever wins the Oct. 6 election isn’t going to be about solar panels or tracking bracelets and the things the politicians want to talk about.

It will be about what they’re not talking about — debt — and making sure this province doesn’t choke on that same plate of Greek souvlaki.


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92 Responses to PM Harper til at least 2020?

  1. storm van de langerijt says:

    that would be a welcome change one that people in Canada haven’t seen in decades
    he needs to stop worrying about treading on toes though and mash those puppies instead
    harper rocks 😉

  2. SDC says:

    Be careful what you wish for; haven’t you ever heard the aphorism that “politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often, and for the same reason”? The second that these weasels (of ANY party) get the idea that they’re safe, they stop being accountable to the people, and pull a Chretien.

    • Joanne says:

      Yeah, that’s true. I think any party is vulnerable to corruption to some degree. However I do believe that PM Harper will continue to keep tight control over things. We`ll see what happens.

      • Joanne says:

        Having said that though, I think it`s up to the opposition parties to get their acts together.

        • bertie says:

          You are right JOANNE..It has been a long 5 years that all opposition have been trying to outdo each other finding phony scandals,instead of helping Canada get ahead,they try to bring it down.Even Quebec tried to fool Canada with it,s election of NDP,hoping for a coalition and their man would be Prime Minister. None of that was printed was it? And knowing what we know about the SCAM that global warming is and being the only leader with a brain regarding this subject(GW) PM Harper is the only logical choice to lead Canada (like he said about the pipeline to the USA) it is a no brainer.He has proven himself in Canada and on the world stage to be a very intelligent and honest leader.A person that says the truth to your face and not someone who says different things to different parts of the country like we used to get from our past Prime ministers.Staying in power till 2020 would be a blessing for Canada and the World.

  3. wilson says:

    ”….While his predecessors have retired to corporate boardrooms after two or three terms in office, Mr. Flanagan doubts that the same endgame appeals to Mr. Harper.

    “He doesn’t really care much about money,” Mr. Flanagan told The Hill Times….”

    That makes PMSH less corruptable than the rest, he’s not in it for fame nor fortune.
    The team Harper/Flaherty/Carney are impressive, shaking up things on the world stage!!!

    • DonOntario says:

      What about the leadership voting rules do you think should be fixed/changed? I’ve never voted in any party’s leadership race, so I just ask this out of curiosity.

  4. Calgary Junkie says:

    About a year ago, Harper made a comment along the lines of: It’s not in my best interests, or the Party’s best interests, for me to stay on as leader for too long.

    I think a lot of pundits misread the guy’s motivations, and underestimate his considerable political skills. It doesn’t make sense for him to frustrate the leadership ambitions of those around him, for too long. But he also wants to make sure that the next leader is ready.

    There are also many lessons for our Party to learn, from previous unsuccessful transitions of power–Kim Campbell, Paul Martin, Ernie Eves and Ed Stelmach, for example. I’d like to see more high profile candidates (besides Baird and Prentice), get more Minsitries on their resume. Plus, we need to fix our leadership voting rules.

    There’s still lots to be done, before CPC members can effectively use our collective wisdom, to pick the best leader to replace Harper. This is serious business, and we don’t want to screw it up !

  5. maz2 says:

    The Green Agenda*.


    “Pipeline Protesters take to Parliament Hill”

    “Hundreds of environmentalists are expected on Parliament Hill today to protest a proposed pipeline from the Alberta oilsands to Texas.”

    *H/T Liberal leader Basement Bob Rae’s Uncle Mao Strong:

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the
    industrialized civilizations collapse?
    Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”

    “- Maurice Strong,
    founder of the UN Environment Programme”

  6. Steven says:

    I beleive he will go one for one more term, and then hand it off to future leader

  7. Joanne says:

    Tim Hudak will be on Gary Doyle right after the 570 news. Listen live.

  8. Richco says:

    McGuinty is NO Harper!
    He’s ridden Harper’s tails for so long that McGuinty thinks the voters in Ontario will not notice the difference.
    There’s a HUGE difference besides the obvious.
    Harper Rocks…..McGuinty Sucks Rocks….works for me.

  9. Pickering Tory says:

    As a side note to our current discussion.
    The local radio station 640 News conducted a poll this past Friday…”If the vote were held today which party would you vote for?”
    Now please understand that 640 leans to the right…which is why the results concerned me a bit.
    52% would vote for the NDP!!!
    Yes it is a very informal poll, however that tells me both the Liberals and PC are in for a real fight.
    My gut prior to hearing that little bit of info was the polls from the big companies are sku’d like they were for the Toronto mayoral election and the recent federal election.
    Now not so sure…have to see the debate tomorrow night
    Quick question: isn’t Forum research part of Frank Graves Eko research?

  10. maz2 says:

    “BBC Speechless As Trader Tells Truth: “The Collapse Is Coming…And Goldman Rules The World”

    “In an interview on BBC News this morning that left the hosts gob-smacked (google it… it is the BBC after all), Alessio Rastani outlines in a mere three-and-a-half-minutes what we all know and most ignore. While the whole interview is worth watching, the money shot for us was “This economic crisis is like a cancer, if you just wait and wait hoping it is going to go away, just like a cancer it is going to grow and it will be too late!”. While he dreams of recessions, sees Goldman ruling the world, and urges people to prepare, it is hard to disagree with much (or actually anything) of what he says and obviously interventions and machinations means we will have days like this (in Silver for instance), there is only one endgame here and we hope there is less hopeful euphoria (and more preparedness) as we pull back the curtain further and further.

    While we do not know who this trader is, one thing we can be 100% certain of is that he will never appear on CNBC.”


    “Trader on the BBC says Eurozone Market will crash – YouTube

    12 hours ago … In a scary and painfully frank interview a freaked out BBC interviewer is visibly shaken when market trader Alessio Rastani predicts that the …”

  11. Mary T says:

    Ekos is out with a report that fear of a coalition had nothing to do with Ont voters in May voting conservative. Is he saying that TO is really conservative. Will the debate be available on tv tomorrow night.
    20 groups planned today’s protest re the pipeline and predicted thousands would attend. People from across Canada were to be there. What a letdown for them. Or, perhaps those saying they would come decided not to leave a carbon footprint, or spend their own money on airfair or gas to get there. Can we spin that with, Canadians from coast to coast to coast support the pipeline, with the exception of about 300 people.

  12. The_Iceman says:

    Now that Harper has a majority I expect him to cancel all future elections and declare himself dictator for life. Why would we want elections when they could not possibly produce a result better than what we currently have?

  13. maz2 says:

    While reading the essay “Green Twilight” by J.R. Dunn, substitute McGuinty for Obama; for “Obamanomics”, substitute McGuintynomics, aka Red-Greenomics.

    Red-Greenomics is a major cause of the unholy mess in our financial systems. Billions of dollars have been sucked down into Red-Green’s black-green hole and have disappeared forever.

    Our Prime Minister is aware of these things. Stand with PM Harper.

    Here* again is Liberal leader Basement Bob Rae’s Uncle Mao Strong.


    “Harper summons Flaherty, Carney for rare three-way talks on economy”


    “Green Twilight”

    “By J. R. Dunn”

    “There’s something satisfyingly symbolic about the unfolding Solyndra scandal. A government “investment” based on a totally spurious Green rationale collapses, threatening to take part of the administration with it. What more apt illustration of the current status of environmentalism? It could scarcely go better if you’d scripted it.

    It’s often been said that Obama is a closet Marxist out to transform the U.S. into something resembling a people’s republic. I’ve never completely agreed with this contention. For one thing, he’s not precisely a Marxist; he’s a Marxisant, a useful French word denoting someone who has memorized all the slogans while not bothering his head with any of the theory. “Spread the wealth around” is a pure Marxisant statement, just as his attempts to stir up class hatred against private jet-owning billionaires is pure Marxisant behavior. An actual Marxist would be far more subtle and convoluted, thanks to his grasp of theory and revolutionary tradition. Obama has neither. What he practices is bong politics, the kind of thing you’d hear in the college dorm after the third or fourth bowl: “If I was running things, man, I’d like, get rid of money, y’know? Money messes with your head, right? So you get rid of it, and then…”

    It would be much closer to the point, and fitting in nicely with the bong ideal, to say that Obama wishes to establish a “watermelon” state, in which strict centralization and collectivization are implemented to create not a worker’s paradise, but a Green utopia. Consider the fact that many of Obama’s policies — and almost all of the most noxious ones — are in service of some environmentalist daydream or other. Shutting down Gulf oil exploration; new and onerous regulations for coal plants; attempts to halt exploitation of the Marcellus shale; foot-dragging on the Keystone XL pipeline; promotion of electric cars, wind power, bullet trains, and what have you.

    “Obamanomics,” as James Pethokoukis recently put it, “is about the top-down redistribution of wealth and income. Government spending on various ‘green’ subsidies and programs, along with a cap-and-trade system to limit carbon emissions, would enrich key Democrat constituencies: lawyers, public sector unions, academia and non-profits.” Pure communism is no longer the goal — it’s the environmentalist state that lies closest to the heart of the modern social democrat. Obama is unquestionably an authoritarian, an autocrat, whatever you wish to call him, but his hue is as much green as it is red.

    So it’s a real pleasure to see the entire environmentalist edifice falling to pieces just as they thought victory was in their hands. Cap ‘n’ trade was dead on arrival. Global warming is unlikely to recover from the e-mail scandal, however far the cover-up may extend. The electric automobile has turned out to be less an automotive revolution than a third car for wealthy Democratic donors. And now the centerpiece of the Green agenda, renewable energy, has taken what may well turn out to be a mortal hit.

    Note that none of these were brought about by rational arguments or serious opposition. Rationality per se has never made so much as a dent in the green worldview. What happened was that all the green innovations reached a certain point where they could no longer be sustained by the illusions of the faithful, whereupon they crashed and burned. They were overcome by their own internal contradictions more than any other single factor.

    Rational opposition to the greens has consistently misinterpreted the movement’s core beliefs. ”


    **H/T Liberal leader Basement Bob Rae’s Uncle Mao Strong:

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the
    industrialized civilizations collapse?
    Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”

    “- Maurice Strong,
    founder of the UN Environment Programme”

  14. maz2 says:

    Liberal McGuintynomics, aka Red-Greenomics.

    “The entire AGW movement truly is the most massive Fraud in modern history, and here for the entire world to see is the purpose of that Fraud.”


    “Your [wasted green] tax dollars at work

    From the Fiscal Times: Solyndra Went on a Spending Spree After Getting Loan

    Former employees of Solyndra, the shuttered solar company that exhausted half a billion dollars of taxpayer money, said they saw questionable spending by management almost as soon as a federal agency approved a $535 million government-backed loan for the start-up.

    A new factory built with public money boasted a gleaming conference room with glass walls that, with the flip of a switch, turned a smoky gray to conceal the room’s occupants. Hastily purchased state-of-the-art equipment ended up being sold for pennies on the dollar, still in its plastic wrap, employees said.

    As the $344 million factory went up just down the road from the company’s leased plant in Fremont, Calif., workers watched as pallets of unsold solar panels stacked up in storage. Many wondered: Was the factory needed?

    “After we got the loan guarantee, they were just spending money left and right,” said former Solyndra engineer Lindsey Eastburn. “Because we were doing well, nobody cared. Because of that infusion of money, it made people sloppy.”

    On Friday, company executives are scheduled to appear before a House committee investigating how Solyndra obtained its loan and whether the Obama White House rushed its approval for political reasons. Chief Executive Officer Brian Harrison and Chief Financial Officer Bill Stover were supposed to face a grilling about the company’s spending and collapse, but they announced Tuesday that they would assert their Fifth Amendment rights because of a criminal probe of the company by the Justice Department.

    Full story at the Fiscal Times h/t to Tom Nelson”

    From comments:

    “wws says:
    September 26, 2011 at 8:40 am

    what’s nice about the Solyndra debacle is that it puts a fine point on the true goal of the entire AGW movement – which is to enable a governmental and corporate theft of hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Why, if they make it sound noble, it won’t be called theft! And hence you have people saying “well don’t condemn the solar industry because of Solyndra.”

    Well, Yes. Yes I will. I condemn anything which cannot survive without endless and massive government subsidies as far as the mind can comprehend. The entire AGW movement truly is the most massive Fraud in modern history, and here for the entire world to see is the purpose of that Fraud.

    Theft, plain and simple. Not some grand political conspiracy – just old fashioned theft.”

  15. Richco says:

    a bit of local commentary re: a letter to the editor

    “TOO Many BOO BOOs
    By Charley Urbanek

    BOO here for sure. It appears that our present Liberal leader and his persuaded believers are now being found out and that the facts they have been presenting to us are not quite on the straight and narrow. We now know they had prior knowledge of the health issues connected to industrial wind turbines but chose to ignore them, start a name calling campaign and other tactics against those who are being harmed.

    A BOO BOO, Dalton’s little video photo op, at the solar cell factory manipulated you into thinking the place was operating and humming like mad, pounding out all those solar cells needed to save our planet where in fact the whole thing was staged and the factory was in a temporarily shutdown mode because no one wanted their product.

    Another BOO BOO, you may have heard or read about is the fairytale where these two guys from Clear Sky Advisor, were speaking about facts on CLEAN energy and how it would only amount to costing us, 1 coffee and 1 muffin per month extra over and above our regular hydro bill. However, some KIND and THOUGHTFUL person who doesn’t just believe everything they hear now checks out and reads more information including what the Ministry of Energy has, and finds out that math seems NOT to be Clear Sky Advisor’s strong point. This truly caring person has calculated that it’ll cost us ALL at least 1 coffee and 1 muffin extra PER DAY, which now amounts to an enormous cost for this doubtful clean energy.

    More BOO BOO, Dalton was bragging about how David Suzuki was 100 percent behind his green plan but for some reason ALL ads and references to this little pact have been pulled from view EVERYWHERE. Why?

    Another BIG BOO BOO, our Liberal leader and his faithful followers seem to be pretty friendly with the Sierra Club which in fact promotes industrial wind turbines and this club has stated “Peoples lives/health are INSIGNIFICANT in the big picture”. Just what plans, do the McGuinty liberals have in mind for the people of Ontario?

    Next, BOO BOO, back at the beginning of Dalton’s reign he said he wouldn’t raise taxes, hummmm, he must have forgotten that one. Oh, by the way, everyone happy about the HST?

    McGuinty and his Liberal party seem to think it necessary to enlist the aid of an 8 year old girl for this election. Are we really to believe she is qualified in understanding the Liberals green agenda that has been DICTATED to us, when she speaks about how it will clean the air she breaths and make things better for her generation when she’s older. I mean really, exploiting a minor in this way is at the very least questionable.

    To try and make the worlds air cleaner for us and future generations is a most noble undertaking BUT to do something that just doesn’t work, as it hasn’t worked in Europe and will not work here, no matter how much of OUR money is thrown at the Liberals green plan. It’s a plan that’s ill conceived, based on greed and is proven to have little to no effect on actually cleaning up OUR air.

    If you are NOT in favour of living with this kind of deception and tyranny, then you know what needs to be done on Election Day.

    Charley Urbanek

    Port Elgin”

  16. old white guy says:

    world wide the problem is debt. too many people taking and not producing. you can only keep giving stuff away so long and then you have find a way to refill the coffers. they have been refilling with borrowed or printed money and that cannot continue. i agree that the euro zone will collapse because no one is willing to back away from the trough. the u.s. will also go under it is just a matter of time.

  17. Richco says:

    Huron-Bruce is no longer too close to call – Conservatives leading – chaCHING! Stats. here changed this morning.

    • Ruth says:

      good news Richco, but I still don’t want to get my hopes up too high.
      After all the money that our MPP has poured into H-B to buy some votes, it would be great to have this upset.

      • Richco says:

        Mitchell’s got to go for sure. I fear though that we may be fighting the wrong opponent. I’ve heard more than a few people who voted Liberal and PC before willing to give Horwath’s NDP a try.
        She’s relating the best to people. I like her too – she’s just with the wrong party for me. Either that, or after this election I’m going to have to claim “independent” status from here on in.

    • Joanne says:

      Thanks for that link Richco. Great site there.

      Just back from a couple of days out your way. LOTS of blue signs! This is really encouraging,

  18. Soccermom says:

    Harper has been PM now for 5 years already. I feel he should hand off shortly before the end of this term or midway of his next term. Nine plus years is long enough for one PM. 2020? Hell no. I like the guy, but that’s way too long. Way too long. Remember how sick everyone was of Trudeau? even Mulroney? Chretien? 8 years, really, is plenty. Equal to two terms in the U.S. That’s the way it should be, IMO. I would be happy if this was legislated. No more than two terms.

  19. maz2 says:

    “NP | Thousands rally against proposed service cuts

    About 4,000 people packed Nathan Phillip Square by 6 p.m. Monday. Many carried placards showing a cartoon of a runaway train going off a cliff, with Rob Ford in the locomotive, and the slogan, “Stop the Crazy Train.””


    “What’s the use of saving money?”

    “How years of ultra-low interest rates have punished savers, rewarded spenders, and now might be smothering any hopes of recovery”


  20. maz2 says:

    “OC | Ontario has bad case of ‘bed-blockers,’ report shows

    OTTAWA — Ontario’s problem with elderly patients stuck in hospital beds where they don’t belong is the worst in Canada, says a provincial report, and the Eastern Ontario health region has more problems than most.”


    “Why Does the Good Life End?”

    “We are good and therefore can act badly

    The outsourcing of private morality to the state is a particularly modern affliction, but equally as pernicious. We witness the startling paradox that today’s private society is crasser, less honest, and more uncouth even as its government’s official morality stresses gender, race, class, and green ethical superiority. But just because the state now thankfully mandates disabled parking spaces does not mean that we honor a crippled relative more than in the past, or that our children are more likely to write a note of thanks to a grandparent’s gift. I can surely see an erosion in the public expression of manners and morality even as I sense our government is now more “fair” and “equal” than ever before.”

  21. Liz J says:

    It’s Debate night tonight, wonder what smarmy yuck, yuck we’ll hear from the fella who has led us to the brink with indebtedness our kids and grand kids will be paying off?

    It may be some consolation to recall when Liberal governments screw up feeding largess with ever higher taxes the people know who to elect to do the hard work of getting back on track. The last time that happened we elected Mike Harris who did a phenomenal job.

    I’m wondering if Tim Hudak will go after McGuinty’s outrageous and divisive and unfair plot to give employers a credit of $10,000, dollars to hire new immigrants? He should not be allowed to get away with this but I fear he has unless Hudak has the gumption to nail him to the wall.

  22. Jen says:

    I find odd that the media ask the fed government how they(gov) are going about balancing the fed deficit. Yet Dalton has not been ask asked that same question in regards to HIS deficits which ended up his province into a HAVE NOT province.

  23. maz2 says:

    Liberal McGuinty’s “*Leftism/Socialism: It’s for “our children’s future”.


    “McGuinty woos Toronto’s youth hours before debate”

    “Hours before Tuesday’s debate between the leaders fighting to govern Ontario, Dalton McGuinty spoke to thousands of people who probably aren’t old enough to vote.

    The Liberal Leader thanked about 18,000 screaming high school students for their imagination at Toronto’s Air Canada Centre. He was one of the first on stage at We Day, a day-long youth empowerment event with the founders of Free the Children, TV stars and singers.”


    *”Leftism/Socialism: It’s for “our children’s future”.

    “railway unionist Dinos Sourmelis told Reuters.
    “We are not fighting for ourselves, we are also fighting for them and our children’s future.”


    “Greeks worn down by drumbeat of strikes”

    “* Greeks endure daily disruption

    * “It’s ordinary people suffering,” said one

    * Transport union official asks public for patience

    By Renee Maltezou

    ATHENS, Sept 27 (Reuters) – As austerity bites and international lenders demand higher taxes and more cuts to salaries and pensions, ordinary Greeks are being worn down by the daily grind of strikes and protests that have come to punctuate their lives.”

    • Jen says:

      Unions will continue to suck their country Greece dry. No amount of money the Greek government gets can satisfy the Greek unions. Can europe continue pouring money(bailing out) money into Greece. NO.

      Greece has to wake up FAST and by doing so is to stop giving and giving money. Period. It may a hard pill to swallow but once they take the pill you never know the Greeks might change.

    • Martin says:

      Don’t want to be a wet blanket, or anything, but isn’t today a school day?
      I have never heard of We Day before. I’m sure it beats classes, not so sure of the message.

      • Richco says:

        Martin – this is a yearly socialist engineering excursion brought to you by the usual suspects in the education of Ontario’s children.

        It’s part of the brainwashing experience that is fast becoming the signature of public education in this province.

        • Richco says:

          come to think of it Martin it reminds me of when Justin Trudeau was being marketed around to schools before the Federal election – the Kincardine event was also one where kids got off school to attend for the day.

  24. Jen says:

    Man, the prime minister is on the ball; off to Germany he goes to find a solution to stop our country from falling. He is concern and will work to no end to find with God’s help a solution to keep our country afloat. Whereas, Obama, the media’s god is campaigning for his future rather than getting down to hard business by opening the american borders to free trade, allowing the pipeline to go through now and not two or three months from now. TIME IS EVERYTHING.

  25. Jen says:

    According to the liberals and the ndp we hear daily ” 60% of canadians didn’t vote for the conservatives.

    When in truth only 60% of canadians voted so you can imagine how much of % of voters voted for liberals and ndp.

    Peggy Nash said a few days ago that the unemployment rate was at 20% now she again says that the unemployment is at 18% yet she complains that that job unemployment rate is rising.

    • Martin says:

      Janice Kennedy in the Ottawa Citizen actually upped the ante to only 1/3 of Canadians supporting the CPC, implying 66% didn’t vote for them. I believe she was once a teacher, maybe not in math.
      For the record the precentage for CPC was 39.62, comparable to the 3 majorities of J. Chretien. Those of course were not a problem.

      • Rich says:

        Martin, I quite agree, the actual voter turn out in the May 2011 election was 59.65%, the CPC received 39.62% of the total vote which transalates into 66% of the actual votes cast, one reason Mr. Harper received his coveted majority government. I wish that some industrious main stream media type would actually take the Opposition NDP an Liberal to task whenever the mention their 60% of Canadians didn’t vote for the CPC.
        Do the opposition think that the voting public are stupid and can figure out percentages.

  26. Richco says:

    Jen @ 1:05pm wrote “I find odd that the media ask the fed government how they(gov) are going about balancing the fed deficit. Yet Dalton has not been ask asked that same question in regards to HIS deficits which ended up his province into a HAVE NOT province.”

    Oh, McGuinty’s been asked that question several times Jen. You shouldn’t be surprised that you may not have recognized his answer because it’s identical answer that Harper gave during his campaign.

    Sept 12 – CTV reports “Premier Dalton McGuinty has pledged to eliminate Ontario’s deficit by the 2017-18 fiscal year — the same timeframe promised by Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak. ”

    That answer hasn’t changed and I’m pretty sure it’s because the Liberal war room knows that to challenge THAT answer the conservative media would also be challenging Harper.

  27. Richco says:

    oops – I meant McGuinty’s response is the same as Hudak’s, and actually it might even BE Harper’s too – he’s mirrored everything else Harper.

  28. ed says:

    At the end of the debate, Hudak should ask Ontarians for a majority government, that a possible Liberal/NDP coalition would be very bad for Ontario. Look at Greece, California, etc., is that the scenario Ontarians want?? A socialist government would be Ontario’s death certificate. Come on, Ontario, wake up!!

    Hudak better come with a tiger in his tank, maybe a coffee or two before the debate. IMO, he has to express the anger, frustration, and “can’t take it anymore” attitude of the Ontario voter. He has to illustrate this in his words, facial expression, gestures, and actions. Confront McGuinty with his terrible record running this province and spell out clearly what a Hudak government will do to right the wrongs.

    There, I’ve done my part as a good, non-Ontarian, Canadian to support a government that will bring Ontario back to the respectable position she once had. :-)

  29. maz2 says:

    Here’s to Liberal O’McGuinty.

    Send Liberal O’McGuinty to the PET Cemetery Solarium.


    “Solyndra cleared for bankruptcy auction”

    “WILMINGTON, Del. – Solar panel maker Solyndra LLC, which filed for bankruptcy after borrowing $535 million from the U.S. government, Tuesday was cleared to begin a quick sale process that some creditors criticized as “rushed.”

    U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Mary Walrath in Delaware approved the plan for an Oct. 27 auction of the business, citing the support for the plan by the Department of Energy (DOE). She also directed the company to attend a major trade show next month to find a buyer for the business.

    The DOE guaranteed the government’s loan to Solyndra, which touched off a political storm after the start-up filed for bankruptcy just weeks after assuring members of Congress about its rosy outlook.

    Just days after the company’s Sept. 6 bankruptcy filing, the Federal Bureau of Investigation raided Solyndra’s headquarters in Fremont, California.

    Congress is investigating the role political connections played in securing the loan guarantee for Solyndra, which was visited by U.S. President Barack Obama last year. The Obama administration had thrown support behind solar and other clean energy technologies as a way of stimulating the economy.”


    “SolarCity US DOE loan approval fails”

    “According to news reports, US-based solar installation firm, SolarCity will not be able to complete and comply with documentation deadlines of September 30th to be considered for a US Department of Energy loan, previously announced.

    Earlier this month, the DOE had made a conditional commitment for a partial loan guarantee to SolarCity for PV system installations on residential and other buildings at US military bases. The US$344 million loan would go towards 371MW of new solar power generation capacity.

    The project, code named SolarStrong, will be led by SolarCity, with USRG Renewable Finance acting as lead lender in partnership with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

    Only last week, First Solar fell foul of the same deadline due to its inability to meet documentation deadlines.

    The US DOE has come under the political spotlight since the collapse of CIGS thin film producer, Solyndra and a loan of over US$500 million.”

  30. maz2 says:

    With Conservative PM Harper to 2020 and beyond >>>

    “having an advanced economy, an appealing environment and an effective government,”.


    “Canada is the Country With the Best Reputation in the World According to Reputation Institute”

    “Study Finds Direct Link between a Country’s Reputation and its Levels of FDI and Tourism Receipts”

    “NEW YORK, Sept. 27, 2011 /PRNewswire/ — Canada has earned the highest reputation ranking in Reputation Institute’s 2011 Country RepTrak™, an annual study measuring the public perceptions of 50 countries around the world. The study measures the overall Trust, Esteem, Admiration and Good Feelings the public holds towards these countries, as well as their perceptions across 16 different attributes, including a good quality of life, a safe place to live and a strong attention to their environment. Results from over 42,000 respondents worldwide showed that Canada scored well in all of these elements.

    “The study shows that a strong country reputation requires a solid performance across three different areas: having an advanced economy, an appealing environment and an effective government,” says Nicolas Georges Trad, Executive Partner of Reputation Institute, a global consulting firm specializing in reputation management.”

  31. maz2 says:

    Have the 3 Ontario pols at the “debate” mentioned Greece? Has the moderator/MSM mentioned Greece?

    Of socialism: an ideology without a future.

    Never, ever, will one see/hear/read this in/on Canada’s MSM.

    “We go to the cafe. It’s the last thing we have” – an Athenian teacher”

    “Ersi Georgiadou laughs again and tells of the island of Zakynthos, where one in five residents is registered as blind. Medically that would be amazing – yet it may have something to do with the lucrative disability benefits for the blind.”

    “And that the part of the Greek people who actually committed the theft have also stolen the country’s future.”

    “Suicide was always a taboo in this society,which has always been firmly in the grip of the Greek Orthodox Church.”

    It’s so much too scary for Canada’s MSM.



    “There’s laughter in hell”

    “Many Greeks feel their future has been stolen from them. But who is to blame? One writes a letter to Angela Merkel, another wants his people to embrace virtue. A report from Athens, where the laughter comes from desperation.”

    “She laughs. They do still exist, people who sit in the cafes and laugh. A lot of cafes are even full. Visiting one is an act of rebellion against these days, days that are all mad, against this morning, as the café-goers open their eyes to peer a little bit further ahead into the tunnel and feel the panic rising.

    Sitting by their espressos and glasses of water, often for hours on end, they gaze out over a city that is increasingly alien to them, out over a land that eludes them. “You Germans go into the forest to collect mushrooms,” says Ersi Georgiadou. “We head to the cafe. It’s the last thing we have.”

    Ersi Georgiadou knows the Germans. She teaches their language to her fellow Greeks. Teaching also used to be easier. This September there were no textbooks at the start of the school year. The students were given a CD, from which they now must print out or copy the first chapter. Ersi Georgiadou takes her head in her hands and laughs. It’s also an act of desperation.

    She must live with the knowledge that, in the eyes of the whole world – in the eyes of the Germans – the Greeks have all been lumped together as lazy thieves. And that the part of the Greek people who actually committed the theft have also stolen the country’s future. “We don’t know what will happen next week,” she says. “All we think about is tomorrow. We all just talk about survival.” Wednesday is payday. The teacher does not know yet how much of her salary she will get.”

    “Suicide rate”

    “An incompetent government that runs around in a panic – without a goal, as most believe – alongside thieves and con artists who have still not been held accountable. Ersi Georgiadou laughs again and tells of the island of Zakynthos, where one in five residents is registered as blind. Medically that would be amazing – yet it may have something to do with the lucrative disability benefits for the blind. The government has now sent eye doctors to the island to investigate the phenomenon. Meanwhile, Ersi Georgiadou has begun to hoard food – oil, rice, honey. “But I do try to wear rose-colored glasses.” At some point it will eventually all be over. “In ten or 15 years, perhaps? Or?”

    Something has to give. Some emigrate, others are getting the anger out of their system by protesting, others are killing themselves. Suicide was always a taboo in this society,which has always been firmly in the grip of the Greek Orthodox Church.

    The official suicide figures are still underreported – families are ashamed to admit suicides in their midst. “We Greeks are not really a depressive people,” says the psychologist Aris Violatzis. “We’re loud and extroverted. We never did have many suicides. But today we have the highest jump in the suicide rate in the world.”

    Social or economic circumstances are often the trigger in the end, says the psychologist. That’s why he sees an obligation for the government. “These people do not want to die. They want to kill their pain. Here is where our responsibility begins.”
    A silver lining

    Aris Violatzis also has a message for the Europeans. “Demonising Greece is ludicrous. The Europeans are panicking and they’re saying: ‘Let’s burn a witch, so the rest of us will be cleansed’. But is it really little Greece with its population of ten million that has brought down all this financial chaos? This is a witch hunt.”

    Others prefer to point the finger at themselves.”

  32. Bec says:

    I watched the Ontario debate and it’s my opinion, McGuinty wasn’t just smoked, he was decimated, poof! If Ontarians vote for that man, look out! what a disaster.

    A well, Hudak impressed me immensely and Horvath, although those cheesy, the folks down the street stories were obviously intended and I disliked that aspect, she was pretty decent.

    From Alberta>Hudak won but close.

    • Richco says:

      McGuinty stunk the joint out. Holy cow! The man never stood still…weaving and bobbing back and forth. Combined with what looked like he was waving in a jet aircraft with his hands and arm movements the guy was so off it wasn’t funny….ok, it was funny – I actually laughed a few times during the debate.

      Horwath was very good and Jen, Hudak used those sob stories as well – I didn’t like it from either of them.

      Horwath connected better and in my mind got the best shots in a McGuinty and even with her jibes actually threw him off at one point.

      Hudak – ok but too scripted and repetitious. He got some good shots at McGuinty as well but I quite like last line of Horwath’s wrap up about a choice between more of these same “suits” or something different.

      The Hudak/Horwath team took Dalton down. I don’t think that either one did it on their own which should make this absolutely anyone’s game now.

      I can’t remember who said it afterward but a slim Hudak minority with Horwath raising the NDP to opposition status is a lot more likely now than it was yesterday.

      • Bec says:

        After how she flat-lined and insulted McGuinty, how could she consider a ‘coalition’ with him? Is that possible? If so, that would put her in the ‘suits’.

        She did well Richco but not well enough to run the biggest, most challenging Province in the country. If Ontarians do that, wow….dumb!

        I think Hudak looked like a Leader….. she looked like an executive assistant.

        • Liz J says:

          Right Bec.

          If there’s anything we don’t need it’s the NDP with power in the state this province is in, compounded with the shaky global economy.

          Noticed how Dalton referenced the global economy to take a bit of the blame off his bad management.

          Hudak calmly got the right shots in, “nobody believes you” was the stinger. I’m also glad he brought up the $10,000. dollar hiring credit for immigrants as well.

  33. ed says:

    Way to go, Tim Hudak, you won the debate!! McGuinty easily dead last. Horvath did quite well as expected, although she did have a bad habit of interrupting too often and made some feeble attacks on Hudak. She referred to the PCs of the nineties in one rebuttal. Hey, we’re in 2011, a different PC party. Also, they kept referring to Stephen Harper as Hudak’s boss — pretty lame stuff. On the other hand, I wished that Tim had corrected them.

    McGuinty comes across as somewhat delusional. Hudak proved himself, he delivered, he came through. Give him 80% plus for the debate. They say he’s good in debates – it showed!! He was able to get his message through. Hopefully, enough Ontarians watched and now have a better view of Hudak. I believe they’d feel confident in having him as their leader. A highlight was when Hudak said to McGuinty why should people believe you, nobody believes you, etc.. Reminds me Of Mulroney telling Turner, you had your chance, you didn’t get it done.

    IMO, polls should show a significant increase for Hudak and just the opposite for McGuinty. Horvath is pretty good but spoils it by being an over the top environmentalist. And the last thing the province needs is a socialist government which Horvath clearly exhibited. Watched the debate on CPAC at 8PM.

    Come on Ontarians, get it done!! :-)

    maz2, I didn’t hear them mention Greece. However, McGuinty kept referencing California as those it was a badge of honor. Somebody should tell him California was/is close to bankruptcy. Maybe that’s where he wants to take Ontario!!

    • Liz J says:

      No surprise Dalton would do a Suzuki name drop, it fits with his rabid penchant for greening Ontario into the bone yard.
      He also had the dumb ass nerve to mention California as if we are all shut out of communications from the US. Wonder if he’s heard of Solyndra?

      As well, he sure didn’t seem to take the e-Health scandal seriously, appears he has the Chretien attitude, “what’s a few billion?”

  34. jon says:

    I agree with Richco — McLiar stunk the joint out. He looked shaly, unsure of himself, certainly not what should be expected against a seasoned veterans at debates, as opposed to McLiar’s two counterparts.

    I was disappointed with Hudak for not nailing McLiar’s a** to the wall when the Lib leader brought up Paul Martin’s name in reference to negotiating the health care accord. By invoking the ex PM and finance minister’s name that left the door wide open for Hudak to point out that McGuinty, as opposition leader in the mid 90s, chose his federal Liberal cousins on the issue rather than to defend the interests of Ontarians… It makes me so angry whenever I hear McGuinty tout himself as the guardian of Ontario’s health care system… a missed opportunity for Hudak, IMO.

    • Richco says:

      he missed the biggest points of all re: the debt and McGuinty’s out of control spending.

      Surprising that Ipsos is has declared McGuinty last night’s winner.

      Bec/Liz – the Hudak/Horwath combination is a force to be reckoned with no matter who wins on Oct. 6th.

      Horwath and her interruptions threw McGuinty off on two occasions that I caught and he stumbled when she did that – it was purposeful and it worked.
      I think the interruptions worked in her favour and gave us some of the best lines of the night.

      Also, going IN to this debate only Horwath had momentum and an upticking trend line.

      I think Hudak’s going to win this election but not by much and it’s not going to have anything to do with Dalton McGuinty.

  35. jon says:

    *McGuinty chose to defend Martin’s cuts

    I really need to read what I type before posting it. My bad.

  36. Martin says:

    I thought it bizarre of McGuinty to mention Suzuki as someone to pattern your energy policies on. From where I stand he has been mostly discredited. Of course, he doesn’t even live in the province. I just think he would cost McGuinty more votes then attract at this point. Suypporters would already be in the Liberal camp anyway.

    • Richco says:

      check Christina Blizzard’s column today – she says the same thing you do Martin.

      Stuff Suzuki already.

  37. Mary T says:

    California is in the toilet, and Dalton says Ont is second to CA. Bringing up Suzuki was the last straw. Could I be an absentee voter and vote for Hudak.
    Dalton’s body language was telling me, I don’t want to be here tonight. Horvath reminded me of lizzie with all her interruptions.
    IMHO no one really answered the questions, just spouted a lot of figures. However, Hudak did say he would have a smaller cabinet and would examine all 600 plus agencies that get funding. 1500.00 to refit your home for lifts ect is laughable. Price out a lift. I don’t think Dalton has any idea of the problems seniors have when one spouse needs 24/7 care. An 80 yr old spouse can’t take care of anyone full time.
    How is he going to force doctors and nurses to make house calls. How many nurses have graduated from Cdn schools, and where did he get the 25,000 new nurses he says he has hired. Funny what info you get from Stats Can when you ask about such things.
    I like the idea of more opportunities to train for the trades, but first one has to convince parents and students that university is not the only answer to getting a job.
    Trades are where the money is.

  38. fh says:

    there will not be a minority PC government
    the McGuinty Liberals He is Premier somehow the media are OK with giving him his proper TITLE not so with the Prime Minister Of CANADA Stephen Harper who is still referred to as HARPER and HARPER Government
    the McGuinty Liberals he has first chance at forming the Government will form a coalition with the NDP and McGuinty will continue as Premier
    work hard Conservatives we need a MAJORITY PC Ontario Government

  39. maz2 says:

    Hudak demolished Liar McGuinty.

    Prediction: McGuinty will lose his own Ottawa riding.


    McGuinty defended his record that included both a health tax and the HST, and insisted a re-elected Liberal Government would not raise taxes this time around.

    Hudak responded “with all due respect, sir, nobody believes you anymore.”


    “Who do you think won or was most effective in the Ontario Leaders Debate? (Please vote first.”

    Liberal Premier Dalton McGuinty
    Conservative Leader Tim Hudak
    NDP Leader Andrea Horwath

  40. Liz J says:

    “Prediction: McGuinty will lose his own riding in Ottawa.”

    If that happens we should have a Conservative majority. Unless the demographic of that riding has changed dramatically I wouldn’t bet on it.

    • Martin says:

      That is a family stronghold unfortunately. Dalton McGuinty has been there for 21 years after suceeding his father as MPP. His brother is the MP, they typically run up margins of 45% of voters, no accounting for taste in some places. He would be difficult to dislodge.

      • jon says:

        I hope McLiar doesn’t lose his own seat. I doubt that would happen though. In 2004, the people of his riding chose McLiar’s brother, David, instead of Adscam whistleblower and man of principle, Allan Cutler, and did so just weeks after McLiar brought in the health tax…. something clearly wrong with the majority of voters in that riding.

        I would like to see him win it but lose gov’t. In 1990, David Peterson lost his own seat and many pundits stated that it was a good thing for him in that he wouldn’t have to face humiliation by returning to the legislature.

        Several weeks back, McLiar stated that, win or lose, he’s sticking around as Lib leader… of course, he will resign, going out as he came in — on a pack of lies.

  41. maz2 says:

    A man’s home is his castle.

    This fundamental principle of individual privacy is the bedrock of our Anglo-Saxon heritage.


    “Man who allegedly stabbed intruder to death during home invasion will not be charged”

    “An Ontario man who is alleged to have stabbed an intruder to death after a home invasion in Arnprior earlier this month, will not be charged.

    OPP investigators, in consultation with the Crown attorney’s office, determined that no charges will be laid against the homeowners.

    Police responded to a call of a break and enter in progress at a home in Arnprior, some 100 kilometres northwest of Ottawa, at 12:20 a.m. on Sept. 11.

    When police arrived, they found Corey Blaskie, 41, unconscious. Blaskie was stabbed to death during an altercation with Nathan Woods and his son.

    Meanwhile, neighbours of the Arnprior man said the former military officer involved in the altercation with Blaskie had had his home broken into several times last summer.

    The man had installed an alarm system and lights on the side of his home and garage as a precaution, a neighbour said.”

  42. Jen says:

    Did anyone hear the news last night after the debate on adler/delaney/Blizzard discussion regarding to the so call solar power plants which was apparently shut down but Dalton recalled the workers as a ‘photo up’ . All this time the power plant was shut down. Even Blizzard confirmed the story. There was more to their discussions re to Dalton that may fascinate or maybe anger you.

  43. Mary T says:

    Another debate tonight in AB with the three contenders for premier. How will the death of Redmond’s mother affect tonight or the vote on Saturday.
    After watching last night I have a message for those debating tonight.
    Leave all stories of interaction with supposed voters out of it. Leave personal problems of one supposed voter out of it. We all have problems, some good, some bad, but I really could care less what a candidate said to some supposed voter that approached him or her.
    OT, but kudos to Diane Finley, my son called her office yesterday and left a message. Call returned in 3 hours by her office.

  44. maz2 says:

    PET Cemetery Report.

    Red Tory Davis here*.


    “Former Ont. premier Davis endorses Hudak”


    *Red Tory Davis:

    “Mr. Davis is Vice-Chairman of the International Advisory Council of Power Corporation of Canada.”

    • Liz J says:

      Bill Davis should go away, STFU. I’m still wondering how much influence he had on Tory’s losing issue last time around.

  45. ed says:

    You can see last night’s debate here and really pinpoint what they said:

    The above is in the video on demand section of CPAC’s site. My mistake: I thought her name was Horvath but it’s Horwath. I still say Hudak won the debate. PC majority for Ontario, yes!! Hopefully, the respected broadcasters and reporters will expand on this debate and get Ontarians talking, especially since this is the last weekend before the election.

  46. Bubba Brown says:

    I must confess looking at the Debate from all the way out here on the left coast.
    I am somewhat disappointed in the lack of respect, nay the absence of reverence!
    Premier McGuinty invoked the name of the Eco-Prophet Suzuki and no one genuflected!
    Best line “With all due respect, no one believes you anymore”
    Gee sounds like our very own Liberals in BC on “smart meters”
    They have “No intention of going to time of day usage”
    With no respect whatsoever you Sir are a “McLiar” tm. JMO

  47. Joanne says:

    Just back from a couple days staying with friends on Ontario’s ‘West Coast’. Oh boy it’s nice to spend time with fellow conservatives. Fun watching the debate with them and we were all routing for Hudak of course.

    McGuinty’s bob & weave dance was nauseating and comical at the same time.

    • Richco says:

      did you come to my town Joanne? We have lots of tourists…..for the wrong reasons, but they’re here taking in the distructive power of mother nature.

      • Joanne says:

        Actually we were just south of you at Grand Bend. I sure hope things are starting to get back to normal for you guys Richco, but I guess it will take a while.

        • Richco says:

          OMG – I was in Grand Bend on Sunday. Hadn’t been there for a while and was amazed at how they fixed up their waterfront. People were swimming in the lake on Sunday.

          re: my town & back to normal – a VERY long time. Many businesses may not reopen and some heritage building have to come down……looking forward to Thanksgiving.

          Hopefully we’ll be additionally thankful politically out this way too.

          The London Free Press has given the NDP the win. They scored the candidates out of 80, broke that down to eight categories: delivery, policy jabs, body blows, tap dancing, spin, appearance, personality & respect.

          Horwath scored 56, Hudak 54, McGuinty 50

          Dalton scored highest mark on appearance with an 8, and his lowest on tap dancing at 3

          Hudak got high marks from the LFP on body blows, his lowest on appearance with 4

          Horwath’s highest mark was a 10 for body blow on McGuinty, with her lowest a 5 on delivery (for repetition and interrupting).

          A bit of a different approach by the Free Press.

          Actually, maybe instead of the expense and hassle of another election, we could hold debates in which viewers/voters graded the candidates like a report card and the candidate with the best mark gets elected?

          • Joanne says:

            Many businesses may not reopen and some heritage building have to come down

            So things may never get back to ‘normal’ in some ways. So sad.

            Re: the Grand Bend Waterfront – yes it’s gorgeous!

    • Martin says:

      Great choice for a visiting trip.

      Yes McGuinty was mostly nauseating. The one time he made me angry was in trying to tar Hudak with xenophobia. The twirling of his fingers, (Quotation marks?) in the evil foreigners remark, just looked sleazy.
      Hudak made a commitment to end McGuinty’s foreign student bursary program and divert the $30 M or so to OSAP, benefiting Ont. students and their taxpaying parents. There is no ambiguity here, the students are foreign, targeted by McGuinty for post grad studies in Ont.
      I think the majority of student parents would agree with him.

  48. Liz J says:

    I still think McGuinty is lying, I cannot believe anything he’s telling us about the situation with Health care. There are all kinds of people I know who do not have a family doctor but he says 94% of us do.

    Where will he find doctors and nurses to make house calls when those now working are stretched to the max? As for wait times in emergencies being down, I’d like to know where?

    And, of course the standard proven lie, he will not raise taxes. I do not believe him and of course if you can’t believe him, you trust him.

  49. Bubba Brown says:

    McGuinty will raise taxes to pay for his “Green Nightmare”.
    A steady hand in the till indeed

  50. Jen says:

    Check out bcblue’s new headline:

    CBC Stroumboulopoulos’ Suzuki Foundation conflict-of-interest

    No wonder CBC is fighting not to reveal OUR BOOKS not theirs….OUR books because of what we will find.

  51. maz2 says:

    Mockely and lidicure*.

    Mocking/ridiculing Liberal McGuinty.

    *H/T Mao Stlong/Bob Rae, Mao’s nephew.


    “McGuinty’s busy hands: Reading the Liberal Leader’s debate body language”

    ““If we could harness McGuinty’s hands, we’d have a ton of wind power energy right there,” businesswoman Karen Siwak tweeted.

    “If Dalton McGuinty proved anything tonight it’s that he would make a great third-base coach,” wrote University of Victoria political scientist Emmett Macfarlane.

    Overnight, a satirical Tweeter account sprang up, with entries such as: “I was going for something between Kate Bush and the Safety Dance. Only time will tell if I succeeded.””

  52. maz2 says:

    Of Red-Green McGuinty’s Red-Green FAIL.

    Of O’narcissist’s Red-Green FAIL.

    Of EUrope/Germany’s Red-Green FAIL.

    Of Red China’s Red-Green FAIL.


    “Ontario Liberal leader creating job plan a week before the election”

    “But he spent much of the 90-minute debate on Tuesday on the defensive over his flagship job-creation strategy, unveiled in 2009. He says building wind turbines, solar panels and other forms of renewable energy will create 50,000 new jobs.”


    “The Secret Gov’t Bank That’s Financing More Solyndras”

    “Sitting at the center of the Solyndra scandal is an off-balance-sheet bank at the Treasury Department that dates back to 1973.

    This little-known government bank, the Federal Financing Bank [FFB], had a zero balance in 2008 for green energy projects, but now, with little Congressional oversight, it is giving out billions of dollars in loans to White House pet projects often at dirt-cheap interest rates below 1%.

    In July alone, the government bank, which had $61 billion in assets, lent nearly three quarters of a billion dollars in taxpayer funds with no Congressional checks and balances.

    Plus the bank is funding the insolvent U.S. Post Office; the White House’s expensive green car projects at Ford Motor, Nissan and Tesla Motors; a $485 million loan to an expensive solar project that’s lost $160 million over the last three years that’s backed by Google, BP and Chevron; plus the FFB is funding the teetering HOPE housing bailout program, which gives delinquent mortgage borrowers breaks on their loans.

    And according to KPMG’s audit report of the bank, the FFB is losing billions of dollars in taxpayer money because it is forgoing collecting interest costs on already inexpensive loans that are financing projects at agencies like the Agriculture Dept.

    What’s scary for taxpayers is this: The FFB can borrow unlimited amounts of taxpayer money from the Treasury for these kinds of political pet projects. Under the 1973 “FFB Act, the bank may, with the approval of the Secretary, borrow without limit from the Treasury,” says the bank’s audited statements from KPMG.

    The Treasury Department’s inspector general is now investigating the bank over its $528 million loan to Solyndra. FFB’s chairman of the board is Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, and the bank’s board executives are Treasury officials.

    Who is getting the FFB’s green energy money? As the White House and Democrats in Congress rail against tax breaks for oil companies, the FFB gave taxpayer loans to green companies with high cash burn that were spilling red ink.”


    “Green energy stocks fight to hold their own”

    “With nuclear power being phased out in Germany, renewable resources are hailed as the way forward. So why are companies in the green energy sector having so much trouble impressing the markets?”

    “When German Chancellor Angela Merkel rang the death knell for her country’s nuclear industry, it shook major energy companies to their core and gave the renewables sector something to smile about. While the former grappled with the prospect of an uncertain future and massive financial losses, the latter experienced a boost on the stock markets. Albeit it a short one.

    Although sustainable power sources are the great clean hope of the energy world, wind turbine and solar panel manufacturers are far from the darlings of the stock exchange. According to Renixx, an index of the world’s 30 most important companies operating in the renewables sector, the industry is still trying to regain the composure it lost during the financial crisis.”

    “Focus on China

    Chinese wind and solar company shares have been particularly affected by the downward trend, which is largely a result of excess capacities in Europe.

    As far as Allnoch is concerned the solar market is saturated, and because China’s markets are not yet sufficiently developed, domestic business opportunities are limited.

    “Ultimately China and even the US are doing too little on their home markets,” the IWR director said. “China in particular, is putting all its effort into exporting the technology.”

    Add to this the state’s move away from subsidizing the projects it was eager to support while the going was good, and it is hardly surprising that clean energy suppliers are in a tight spot.”,,15419037,00.html

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