Canadians tired of minority governments

I think this one’s important enough to set up a new thread – Majority wanted but not necessarily led by Harper or Ignatieff CP Harris-Decima poll: (WFP):

Gregg said the findings on voters’ expectations indicate Conservative supporters are “much more internally cohesive and motivated” than Liberals. Eighty-six per cent of Tory supporters expect Harper’s party to form a government, whereas only 38 per cent of Liberals expect Ignatieff to form a government.
“More Liberals believe that a Conservative government is going to be formed than believe a Liberal one is going to be formed. I mean, how disheartening is that?” Gregg said.

It would have been interesting to see how many expected a coalition government.

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127 Responses to Canadians tired of minority governments

  1. Mary T says:

    I will be checking out all the candidates expenses, once filed with EC to see how much in and out went from lib to ndp candidates as loans and back, in ridings one of the partys has a sacrificial lamb running. And of those 279 ridings how many are women, remember, libs say 1/3 of all candidates will be women. Not winnable women, just sacrifical lambs. They must know the vote subsidy is being cancelled so why bother to get the votes. 850,000 libs did not vote last time, and they are denying several thousand the right to vote this time.
    But the compas poll shows that liberals have no strong opinions on anything so will they vote ndp, for the Bloc led coalition.
    How about ndp candidates, any numbers on how many are running.

  2. Michael Harkov says:

    I said this in the last thread just after you started this new one, so –

    How is THIS for being chicken? Layton started his campaign in Edmonton. Today in Montreal, he mentioned for the first time that if he’s elected Prime Minister, he will stop all subsidies to Alberta’s oil sands. Curious that he never said that while in Alberta, but waited until he was safely in Quebec.

    Yep, what a coward Layton is; saying nothing in Alberta about cancelling the subsidies to oil companies, but waiting until he gets a captive audience for it in Quebec.

    What a POS weasel. Linda Duncan is such goner.

  3. Soccermom says:

    it’s not frickin disheartening to me!!!! LOL

  4. Michael Harkov says:

    To me neither, Soccermom. But imagine how much it would suck acknowedging that your team has such a low chance of winning, then you look over across the field and see how much your opponents believe they will win. That is not just disheartening, it is downright humiliating.

  5. DWT says:

    SDA has picked up on Layton’s comments:

    Good Luck With That Strathcona Seat, Jack
    Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!

    Jack Layton, March 26th – “Because here in Edmonton, everybody knows, only New Democrats defeat Conservatives,”

    Jack Layton, March 31st – “Under Stephen Harper, every single Quebecker is sending roughly $75 a year to subsidize dirty fossil fuel producers”.

    I’ve got an email in to Grant McMurray to ask him what he meant by that.

  6. wilson says:

    “IN THE PAST, Canadians have tended to pull back whenever Tory support levels approach majority territory. Whether they’d now “welcome or fear” a majority Conservative government remains to be seen, said Gregg.”

    Obviously Gregg, if Canadians ‘feared’ a Harper majority, the CPC wouldn’t be still polling above 38%….

  7. paulsstuff says:

    With the media all giddy about the new Nanos poll, let’s put it in a little better perspective.

    Day 5 Nanos poll 2008 election (CPAC-Nanos nightly tracking completed last night (September 12th) shows the Conservatives eight points ahead of the Liberals among decided voters (CP 38%, Lib 30%, NDP 15%, BQ 9% GP 8%). The Tories and Liberals continue to be statistically tied in Ontario (CP 38%, Lib 37%) with the Tories narrowing the gap in the Atlantic provinces to 7 points (Lib 40%, CP 33%).

    Conservatives up quite a bit in Ontario. Stable everywhere else but Prairies. I would expect numbers there to rise with appearances by PM. All in all the Nanos poll is great. We are majority territory, have a very solid decided voter base, and are gaining in all the right places. Duceppe’s comments today abot the loan guarantees for Newfoundland and Nova Scotia should actually give a boost there.

  8. wilson says:

    Jack and the Dippers have always talked out of 4 sides of their face, East-West and Rural-Urban,
    no one paid much attention before.
    The coalition of losers changed everything,
    these yahoos could end up in cabinet….. so we are listening now!

  9. wilson says:

    ‘Duceppe’s comments today about the loan guarantees for Newfoundland and Nova Scotia should actually give a boost there.’

    Funny how Iffy did a Me Too on the loan guarantees, and Solomon only talked about how this would hurt the CPC in Quebec.
    Lisa Frulla was almost beside herself….said how Duceppe would use this, but seemed to me she was angry ‘for Quebec’s sake’.

  10. cantuc says:

    Is Layton going to try and screw the Saskatchewan “tarsands ” too ? or does he even know they exist.

  11. Bec says:

    Maybe Jack should have announced his “dis” somewhere else…..
    http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/8/4/156065948.html

  12. Calgary Junkie says:

    Here is our latest ad. Very hard-hitting, using the best of the pics and videos during the coalition coup attempt. Twice it shows Iggy in his best performance by a leading actor … soooo determined and convincing:

    “I am prepared to form a coalition government. And to lead that government

    Meanwhile, the media are still whining that we’re over-doing all the coaltion talk. I didn’t hear them complain when the Libs et al were over-doing the census, prorogation, Bev Oda, the hidden wafer, etc etc.

    One thing these bozos overlook is that the Tory base eats this coalition stuff up. Very motivating.

  13. J says:

    Ok a little off topic here but im sure you’ve all heard about PMSH backing out of the “one on one” debate with Ignatieff, likely because it’s a non neutral environment as another blogger pointed out, being hosted by CBC or some other pro Liberal Organization. So why not level the playing field and suggest holding it on Sun News Network when they premeir on April 18? Im sure that savy Tory bloggers like BLY and just ordinary Tories who are wanting to see this debate could put the word out Via Social media. Just a Suggestion.

    • Joanne says:

      So why not level the playing field and suggest holding it on Sun News Network when they premeir on April 18? Im sure that savy Tory bloggers like BLY and just ordinary Tories who are wanting to see this debate could put the word out Via Social media. Just a Suggestion.

      Way ahead of you.

  14. maz2 says:

    The Tyranny of Nice*.

    MSM mandates niceness on behalf of the liberal-left Separatist Coalition.

    …-

    >>> TORedSTar/Delacourt play Mean/Slam/Slash PM Harper. Nice, eh?

    >>> “Campaign tests politicians’ ability to play nice
    Toronto Star – Susan Delacourt -” ‎

    …-

    “How Canada’s Leftist establishment has destroyed free speech in Canada — and threatened our own liberties in the process

    *The Tyranny of Nice: How Canada Crushes Freedom In the Name of Human Rights (And Why It Matters to Americans)

    by Kathy Shaidle and Pete Vere

    Canada, long one of the freest societies on earth, has taken a jackhammer to the cornerstones of a free society: freedom of expression, freedom of ideas, freedom of belief, freedom to engage in the whole messy rough and tumble of vigorous debate that distinguishes open societies from lesser, stunted, insecure ones.

    In The Tyranny of Nice: How Canada Crushes Freedom In the Name of Human Rights (And Why It Matters to Americans), Kathy Shaidle and Pete Vere detail how Canadian authorities are determined to enforce a dubious, politically correct government-mandated “niceness” — trampling upon Canadians’ hard-won freedoms and erecting a bloated bureaucracy to enforce the ideological straitjacket they have now fashioned for their citizens.

    Continue the review below…”

    http://www.conservativebookclub.com/products/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=c7305

    About Kathy Shaidle:

    http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/about-kathy-shaidle/

  15. Alberta Girl says:

    Hmmm.. re the sun TV debut..maybe that is the plan all along…wonder who will “back out” then??? LOL

  16. Lorraine says:

    Checking in-sending big blue hugs to my fellow conservatives fighting the good fight.

    • Joanne says:

      That’s nice Lorraine. We sure do need to encourage each other. This is one strange election. Can’t quite get a handle on it.

  17. Mary T says:

    Just got a call from our new conservative candidate inviting us to his kickoff campaign on Sat April 2-bbq.

  18. Norm says:

    While it is early, I gotta tell you the CPC campaign isn’t lighting me on fire so far. I am starting to get a real big lump in my stomach. I hope and pray it gets better. Damn soon!

    • Joanne says:

      While it is early, I gotta tell you the CPC campaign isn’t lighting me on fire so far. I am starting to get a real big lump in my stomach. I hope and pray it gets better. Damn soon!

      I’ll support Norm here. These are still early days but a little tough love might be in order. Adler’s already on it.

      Does anyone know who might be the most effective and open contact person in the CPC for emailing advice?

  19. maz2 says:

    More nice:

    The diplomat is the one with the feathers in his mouth.

    …-

    “Diplomat Jokes

    The definition of diplomacy is saying ‘Nice doggie, nice doggie.’
    until you an find a stick.” -Will Rodgers

    A Diplomat is a person who…

    always knows what to talk about, but doesn’t always talk about
    what he knows.

    always tries to settle problems created by other diplomats.

    can always make himself misunderstood.

    can bring home the bacon without spilling the beans.

    can convince his wife not to hide her nice body under a
    floor-length sable.”

    http://www.yuksrus.com/diplomat.html

  20. Garfield says:

    I still really want to know who still owes money for the Lib leadership (oxymoron?) race and why are they still allowed to run with outstanding debts! Would a Tory be allowed the same latitude? No freakin’ way!!!

  21. Richco says:

    With all Ignatieff’s bluster about democracy and HOPE, why isn’t anyone challenging him on his record of absences in the legislature or his numerous flip-flops? If he cared so much about democracy he’d have been doing his job, no?

    Heard a bit of his speech from London where he’s setting himself up as the Obama HOPE clone. Iggy = HOPE Harper = FEAR

    It’s not going to get him far and his speech was almost manic, he keeps looking down like he’s thinking of the next Harper insult to shout out.

    A man wanted to know why during a vote Iggy and the LPOCs sat on their hands but CPAC quickly cut away and saved Iggy the humiliation of being humiliated on TV.

    Maybe Iggy really does think he’s a game show host on the Red Door/Blue Door show.

  22. Richco says:

    so what do you want Norm?

  23. maz2 says:

    Is abNormal a Liberal Count Ignatieff troll?

    Here’s a nice one for Norm:

    “Layton tries to chip off old Bloc support
    Toronto Star – Andrew Vaughan -“‎

    ‘Nother nice one:

    “Visiting Quebec, Layton rips into oil sands
    Globe and Mail”

  24. Michael Harkov says:

    While it is early, I gotta tell you the CPC campaign isn’t lighting me on fire so far. I am starting to get a real big lump in my stomach. I hope and pray it gets better. Damn soon!

    One way to tell that there is an election campaign is the proliferation of Liberal concern trolls. Sure thing “Norm”, I’ll put your advice right up there with a “Toronto Dave” yesterday telling us the same sort of thing.

  25. paulsstuff says:

    Uhh, Norm Conservatives are at 39.1% in the latest Nanos poll. And that’s decided voters. Looking at the trendline our vote is very solid, and the demographic of those voters shows they are most likely to vote. We have a considerable lead in Ontario. Lead in almost every region except Quebec.

    The only lump in my stomach isfrom the beer and popcorn I indulged in after reading the poll.

  26. Richco says:

    Bluebird has posted this at the end of the last thread
    “National Post is reporting that another NDP candidate has defected. Mustafa Rizvi has withdrawn his nomination in the riding of Mississauga-Erindale, and thrown his weight behind Tory incumbent Bob Dechert.”

  27. Richco says:

    Norm must be one of those paid to post stuff on blogs. Iggy took a lowball question to that effect tonight in London.
    A fellow asked what Ignatieff thought about the rumour that senior conservatives were hiring people to post pro-Harper stuff on blogs. Earth to Iggy – no one cares.

  28. Michael Harkov says:

    And NDP candidate withdraws and supports his Tory opponent –

    http://news.nationalpost.com/tag/mustafa-rizvi/

    Are the NDP collapsing?

    “I support the views of the prime minister. I like his leadership, I think he’s balanced, I think he knows what he’s doing with the economy,” Mr. Rizvi said.

  29. Mary T says:

    Are there only 4 candidates running in this election, how about some coverage of Holland or Bisson, or Rae. I really don’t think the Count will bring in MPs on his coat tails. What is going on with all the drop outs, have they filed their fees yet. Were they candidates in name only. And just maybe not all caucus members of ndp/lib are crazy about this coalition thing. And what if newly elected first time mps say no way.
    Something is going on with the libs and ndpers. Maybe they don’t want to put on a fake campaign so they other guy gets all their votes. And I still wonder if Jack stabbed the Count in the back by voting against the budget. Seems they were playing chicken and got an election neither wanted or can win on their own.
    Good bye linda Duncan, and without a pension. What are the dropouts hearing in the coffee shops and on the street.
    What does it cost to run in a federal election.

  30. Peter B says:

    Email to Brad Giffen of CTV

    To: brad.giffen@ctv.ca
    CC: baird.j@parl.gc.ca
    Subject: RE: Please remove me from your distribution list
    Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:06:57 -0500

    Brad
    As soon as you fulfill your responsibility and inform Canadians of the truth – why are you suppressing this video and its’ contents?
    Why do you persist in advancing and publicizing Duceppe’s lie? Don’t you think Canadians have the ability and the right to decide for themselves who is telling the truth, if given the facts and information, which I thought was your professional responsibility.
    I assume your role is to be non-partisan.
    I find it rather amusing to hear pundits say “hasn’t everything been said about the coalition that should be” and they have refused to play this important video from 2004 where the leaders speak for themselves and are on video – let CTV viewers decide.
    Canadians have been waiting for 6 days now so for 6 days you have been playing Duceppe’s lie – and all Canadians want to know Is Duceppe lying now or was he lying in 2004 – the answer is in the video.

    Here is actual video of the 2004 meeting of Harper, Layton and Duceppe – it is authentic enough for CPAC to play.
    Since CTV has given considerable publicity to Duceppe’s lie and deceit on the subject of the coalition doesn’t CTV feel honor bound to air this video for their viewers – I suggest they owe that to Prime Minister Harper
    Am I supposed to believe that staff at CTV could not find this video in the CTV archives or is the suppression of it deliberate?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkdXycwDUxA&feature=player_embedded

  31. Fay says:

    CBC’s Mansbridge refused to air Stephen Harper rally in NewFoundland on National. Terry Milewski looks and sounds like he is becoming unhinged. No wonder they have him behind a barricade at the news conferences.

  32. Soccermom says:

    “Concern trolls”…lol hadn’t heard that one before, very good!

  33. Blue Circle Jerk says:

    Wow, this place sure is a CPC circle jerk now isn’t it? Seems as if a lot of you commenters have your minds made up about this election and just want to give fellow “Blue Like You” supporters hugs and bash anything non-CPC, regardless of how factual it actually may be.

    Funny how Stevo Harps’ very own CPC actually IS a coalition, yet he goes on with his tireless, repetitive daily routine repeating the same old message: we Canadians should fear the very same kind of coalition he dubbed legit in 1997, and then again promoted in 2004. Oh, and what about Harpo’s essay about Canada needing a coalition to rid it of its “benign dictator” status? Oh well now I’m just being a troll…. that was just all about “uniting the right,” wasn’t it?

    Try taking off your blindfolds people. The Liberals messed up with AdScam and payed the price. They were deservedly removed from power. But the number of Harper-led atrocities to democracy — a never ending list ultimately leading to contempt — should be enough for even the most conservative CPC voters to step back and take a look at what’s happening.

    What will our school textbooks say in 50 years if Canadians re-elect a PM found in contempt of Parliament?

  34. Paul says:

    Like the comment about starting SUNTV off with a debate between Mr. Harper and Mr. Ignatieff. Are Mr. Harper and his crew so Machivellian that this was the plan in the first place? Huge ratings start-up for a new fair and balanced network.

    Just saying.

  35. maz2 says:

    MSM: A debauched left-liberal propaganda org.

    “NOW cover of fake ‘naked’ Ford causes controversy

    CTV.ca – ‎23 minutes ago‎

    A NOW Magazine cover with an image of Rob Ford’s head photo-shopped onto another man’s nearly naked body stirred up controversy at city hall today.”

    …-

    This is the evidence of the debauchery of the liberal-left MSM.

    debauch:
    1.
    to corrupt by sensuality, intemperance, etc.; seduce.
    2.
    to corrupt or pervert; sully: His honesty was debauched by the prospect of easy money.
    3.
    Archaic. to lead away, as from allegiance or duty.”

    noun: debauchment.

    (dict.com)

    This is an old tactic used by a debauched media to attempt to debauch/corrupt/pervert the population of a country.

    Much more here: Soviet communist propaganda.

    http://us.peeplo.com/search/?q=soviet%20propaganda&type=web&from=adgsp5

  36. Bruce says:

    From SDA;

    Here are the numbers I’ve found. The Liberals of running in:

    19 of 36 ridings in BC
    14 of 28 in Alberta
    8 of 14 in Saskatchewan
    7 of 14 in Manitoba
    101 of 106 in Ontario
    50 of 75 in Quebec
    10 of 10 in New Brunswick
    10 of 11 in Nova Scotia
    3 of 4 in PEI
    6 of 7 in Newfoundland
    0 of 1 in the Yukon
    1 of 1 in the NWT
    0 of 1 in Nunavut

    Why is the media not talking about this?

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/016449.html#comments

  37. Bubba Brown says:

    Great comments folks! Peter B you rock! This whole coalition cabal looks a little ratty around the edges, unravelling a bit.
    Ndp’ers bailing some even coming over from the “dark side” walk into the light folks, its never too late to do the right thing for the Canada we all love.
    When a silly old Sausage like Owlivers starts whining about “It’s time to move on”
    We are controlling the message they are being enfiladed by the truth!
    Mary T Ain’t nobody riding anywhere on the Counts coattails, they are firmly tucked into his fruit of the looms.
    Interesting that Mortician Mandsbridge would not put PM Harpers Nfld rally on another past his due date has been fraud.

    Some reporting, what a bunch of loser journos, we are infected with, they would all fit right in in Albania.
    As for PM Harper meeting with Mr Ignatieff for a one on one it would be a super way to put Sun on the Map.
    I would pay to see the Count get a spankin’.

  38. Alberta Girl says:

    Do tell those of us who have weak stomachs and cannot deal with watching At Issue!!

  39. wilson says:

    Oh oh, day 6 and Iffy is already over budget on that $6Billion corp tax cut that is only in reality $1Billion:

    “It’s the worst tax to raise if you’re looking to raise revenue,” he said.

    At best, Gordon figures raising the corporate tax rate to 18% from the current 16.5%, as the Grits want to do, would only lead to $1 billion more for the treasury.
    That could create a political problem for Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff….”

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/CanadaVotes/News/2011/03/31/17827376.html

  40. frmgrl says:

    Do tell those of us who have weak stomachs and cannot deal with watching At Issue!!

    Yes do fill in those of us with stomachs by all means.

  41. Fay says:

    First of all the bar for “at issue” is set very low. I felt they begrudgingly gave Stephen Harper conservatives the lead.
    Still waiting for reality check on Compass votes.

  42. Norm says:

    So, I post something no one wanted to hear and I get shit on and called a troll. Nice.

    Well, I just slit my wrists and my blood still runs blue.

    Thanks for the love.

  43. Peter B says:

    Fay said
    “Terry Milewski looks and sounds like he is becoming unhinged.”

    I saw him the other night and he looked seething mad so I would agree with you.
    He has been brought down to size and he doesn’t like it.

  44. Peter B says:

    Norm
    What you have to remember is that the Conservative campaign has to be a little different than the opposition – it is easy to run an attack campaign and get the troops going when you are in opposition – the opposition hasn’t done anything so what do you attack. May is a great example – in a debate she can take a strip of Harper but she doesn’t have to promise and live up to anything much like Jack Layton. Iggy is playing the role of a new boy on the block – even has some Liberal apologists blaming Dion for the coalition and Iggy’s hands are clean.
    Conservatives have to keep reminding Canadians that the BLoc is an essential part of a coalition with their 50plus seats and we all know as the Bloc has told us they are not interested in seeing Canadian parliament work – they are only interested in getting out of Ottawa as much as they can and eventually separate. We have some quotes of theirs and we will dig them up.

  45. Bec says:

    “Well, I just slit my wrists and my blood still runs blue.”

    Don’t slit your wrists, Norm…..just stay BLUE! :)
    I think that you were misunderstood…..and everyone is just so fed up with all the rhetoric being fed by the media.

  46. wilson says:

    Strange, no media article except Ivison re: what Iffy said on Nfld hydro,
    msm trying to bury it? Keep that coalition strong, eh msm.

    “…Mr. Ignatieff said the Liberals have made it clear they would also be favourable to discussing a loan, if they form government. “The idea that Mr. Harper will walk on to the Rock and say ‘I delivered the Lower Churchill,’ after five years of doing nothing, is false,” he said.
    …. Mr. Ignatieff said he is conscious of the issues around inter-provincial fairness and equity.

    “Quebec has some issues and they have to be listened to,” he said. “The big picture here is that we believe the federal government has a role. The provinces have jurisdiction of natural resources but the federal government has an enormous role in facilitating inter-provincial energy sharing…’

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/03/30/john-ivison-ignatieff-would-not-support-an-unchanged-tory-budget/

  47. Norm says:

    I get that Peter. What I was trying to get across is that keeping PMSH behind bars and coming out with NO policy, NO rebuttals, NO NOTHING six days into the campaign isn’t winning over anyone. Nowhere today, did I read that because the “broadcasting consortium” would not allow a Harper – Iggy debate, there would not be one. All I heard was Iggy taunting Harper that he was “scared” now to debate one on one. Wow, I would love it to be on the premiere of Sun news too, but it isn’t going to happen. Where is the “war room”? Why are they not refuting the absolute crap that gets passed of as news in this country?

    While I don’t post here often, I thought, rather naively, as it seems, that I might be considered worthy of some respect as a fellow right of center politically speaking kind of person. But no.

    [Portion deleted by blog admin]

  48. wilson says:

    Norm,
    Joanne says best At Issue ever, on again in a few minutes.
    It’s CBC, so put the mute on until the segment, usually starts in the first half.
    It’s all this negative media, actually it’s more like media attacks on PMSH.
    Just remember , Canadians are not stupid, our national media is.

  49. Michael Harkov says:

    Norm, if I read you wrong, then I offer my unreserved apology. Please understand that we are in an electoral battle where the media is utterly against us, where this blog has been putting up lately with trolls that come here and basically say, “gee I’m a Conservative supporter, but I can’t support Harper anymore because of X” or “gee wow the Tories are in trouble and I’m worried”. This is the crap we put up with, so we might get a little gun-shy from time to time. Sorry, mate.

  50. Norm says:

    I support Harper, I support the CPC, I support Canada! But, I am not the one who needs convincing. I don’t see the current strategy convincing those who need to be convinced.

    And, yes, the MSM is “utterly against us. sigh.

  51. Fay says:

    Don’t watch CTV Norm. Lisa La Flamme and Craig Oliver attack Stephen Harper. The Liberals continue to be as pure as the driven snow in CTV’s Canada. They worry about Duceppe’s hurt feelings over lower churchill in Labrador. Poor Gilles! Layton to rescue Quebec by cutting all oil subsidies in Alberta.
    I can’t stand Lisa La phlegm, she is one angry women.

  52. Peter B says:

    Here is our latest ad. Very hard-hitting, using the best of the pics and videos during the coalition coup attempt. Twice it shows Iggy in his best performance by a leading actor … soooo determined and convincing:

    “I am prepared to form a coalition government. And to lead that government”

    Gang there are Liberals out there that are slitting their wrists when they see that ad. Media has been protecting Iggy for 6 days now saying he is not interested in a coalition and never was. And out in all his glory and professorial best he tells Canadians he will lead a coalition in the video . I have been waiting for that for days and like Norm it was testing my patience, The war room played it right and let the media and Liberals dig themselves into a deep hole and then exposed the liars – now who will trust the Liberals and the media after they have been exposed to be so deceptive and misleading . The media has been exposed as being very partisan for a coalition so they lost the trust of the people.

  53. Blue Circle Jerk says:

    I posted a comment at 9:16pm that is still awaiting moderation.

    Wilson: You write,
    “It’s all this negative media, actually it’s more like media attacks on PMSH.
    Just remember , Canadians are not stupid, our national media is.”

    When PMSH has a deliberate campaign to withhold information from the media, limiting its questions to five per day, what do you expect? If anything you should be encouraging the CPC to be a little more transparent and for Harper to answer more questions if you want the so-called truth to be reported in the media.

  54. Bec says:

    “And out in all his glory and professorial best he tells Canadians he will lead a coalition in the video.”

    And the Coalition that have been calling the PM a liar for a week, CANNOT do the same thing with any material from 2004. That must break their lying, hard as stone hearts, I’d say.

  55. Soccermom says:

    Welcome to Norm!!! Glad to have you on board….!!!

  56. Peter B says:

    Love to see someone get this going on Twitter

    Doesn’t Terry Milewski look great behind that steel fence. Behind bars would be better – he is imploding in this election.

  57. jon says:

    “More Liberals believe that a Conservative government is going to be formed than believe a Liberal one is going to be formed. I mean, how disheartening is that?” Gregg said.

    It would have been interesting to see how many expected a coalition government. — Joanne

    The media is doing whatever it can to take the coalition off the table as a discussion piece.

    Last week, Solomon had one of his Question of the Day polls: What issue do you think is the most important in this election?

    a) economy
    b) ethics and integrity
    c) not sure

    Notice coalition was not an option but ethics and integrity was — exactly what the Liberals used as a spring board to this campaign.

    In order for that poll question to have been fair, it would have had to list only policy as the options from which to choose: economy, taxes, health care, education, environment, etc.

    “Ethics and integrity” is not a policy. So if Solomon listed it as an option, he in fairness should’ve listed the coalition as well — also not a policy, both instead being inherently political in terms of how each side is using them to attack the other. But the one the Liberals are pounding away on is a choice.

  58. wilson says:

    Tonight on CBC (gag) Mildew-ski said that after (the clip EVERY station is showing) reporter dude gave PMSH only one question…’why do you limit questions’,
    a high up CPC person said “keep it up, you’ll win this election for us”
    haha
    Yesterday, Tom Clark said Obama did not answer even one media question during the entire presidential race. And PMSH is the front runner, and that is what front runners do.
    Our national journalists are pathetic.
    Whine whine whine.

    • Joanne says:

      Yesterday, Tom Clark said Obama did not answer even one media question during the entire presidential race. And PMSH is the front runner, and that is what front runners do.

      Wilson – Exactly. Last provincial election Dalton McGuinty’s handlers had him locked up in photo-ops in primary classrooms the whole election with the ‘real people’ kept far away. No doubt they’ll try that again in the fall.

  59. Hunter says:

    All the media hype for Iggy and the best they can do is say how good he looks in a blue sweater? Yikes! Didn’t they crucify PM Harper for wearing a blue sweater? Is Iggy trying to appeal to Conservative voters, or doesn’t he like red? I smell a Conservative majority.

  60. wilson says:

    Tonite Chantal Hebert said she has not seen the federal election issues hit the water cooler this early in the campaign…. they were talking coalition and then today, Elizabeth May.
    And she said Quebecers are not offended by the constant talk about the Bloc coming from CPC (Coyne had suggested it an offence to Quebecers), because like the ROC, they are tired of minorities and want STABLE government, and the only federalist option that can offer stable government is the Conservatives….. yes she said that.

  61. fh says:

    I think hope goes nicely with DOPE and thats how I see that
    fh

  62. wilson says:

    Norm said:
    ‘Nowhere today, did I read that because the “broadcasting consortium” would not allow a Harper – Iggy debate, there would not be one. All I heard was Iggy taunting Harper that he was “scared” now to debate one on one.’

    This is jaw dropping, but Mansbridge on CBC (gag) ran the clip of PMSH answering the one on one question,
    said CPC approached consortium on a one on one, but Ignatieff wanted his coalition partners there and a separate debate, and PMSH did not want multiple debates…then CBC cut off…

  63. jon says:

    Peter B, you write very well written complaints to CTV — especially the one about Milczarek on a previous thread — but, honestly, I think such complaints are futile. In fact, I think it only fuels them.

    Their calculus is this: why would we address their complaints and actually report responsibly and in a fair way? Those right-wingers aren’t going to vote Liberal anyway. If we just ignore them, if we act all aloof, scratching our collective heads pretending we’re unsure of what their beef is, we can stick to our main focus of manipulating the undecided, the feeble minded, and keeping those already committed to voting Liberal in the fold.

    Honestly, I think they gather around the computer screen and collectively chuckle at such complaints, their shoulders going up and down, followed by high fives at sticking it to us all.

    It shouldn’t take arm-twisting to make them change. They should want to do in the interest of preserving their own credibility, which is being frittered away on a daily basis, if not already completely gone, let alone the bugs they should feel crawling on their skin.

    Someone in a previous thread I read mentioned that this was the Seinfeld election — an election about nothing.

    You can add a particular quote from that sitcom too….

    “Laughing and lying and laughing“… that’s what the media are doing to us in this election.

  64. jon says:

    After a fresh graduate from a broadcast journalism program leaves a CTV job interview, not yet sure if he wants to lie to Canadians, a CTV News manager imparts some wisdom on the young pup, telling him how things are done in the biz, how easing it becomes once you get the hang of it…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

    • Joanne says:

      Jon at 12:43 am – Thanks for that! No doubt that is how both media and politicians deal with their cognitive dissonance.

  65. wilson says:

    Heh! Good news. Nanos daily leadership index PMSH rocks, Iffy and Jack pfffft!
    Harper …… 105.3 +15.8
    Ignatieff ……..46.2 -0.5
    Layton…………39.8 -3.8
    http://www.nanosresearch.com/election2011/20110330-LeadershipE.pdf

  66. TJ2 says:

    Another sickening article from the Star, never mentions the 2004 video of Layton and Duceppe saying definitely no coalition, and of course no comment section to call them on their BS.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/966557–harper-s-coalition-tirade-touches-raw-nerve

  67. TJ2 says:

    I can’t believe our media is taking the word of a man who admits to wanting to break up our country over the word of our Prime minister.

  68. wilson says:

    ‘In 2010, Albertans and Alberta companies paid $35.6-billion in taxes to the federal government. The province received $21.5-billion in services, transfers and payments in return’

    $14.1 billion into federal coffers for redistribution to the ‘have not’ provinces in 2010,
    and the coalition of losers think Bloc seppies should be in govt instead of Western Canadian MPs….
    just saying

  69. wilson says:

    Canadians are not stupid TJ2, but our national media sure is.

  70. Garfield says:

    Don’t forget that the likes of Brad Giffin, Jacqueline Milcarek etc. are just pretty faced empty heads and not much more. Most of them are as talented as Kent Brockman on the Simpsons. Whoever writes the crap they read are the villians and the proof is visibly seen on the ticker scrolling across the bottom of the screen. Makes one suspect writers get their instructions from higher up in the media food chain!

    • Joanne says:

      FYI – I have a troll leaving little droppings in the filter. Do you guys want to have at him?

  71. Liz J says:

    Joanne @ 6:33 am, if the troll needs to be set straight, let’s have at “it”, no point clogging your filter with droppings.

    • Joanne says:

      Alright Liz. Check out the comment at 11:41 pm while I get out the disinfectant and clean the filter.

  72. Liz J says:

    Is Tom Clark a full time employee of CBC ? Didn’t he make some remark about sucking from the public teat?

  73. Michael Harkov says:

    When PMSH has a deliberate campaign to withhold information from the media, limiting its questions to five per day, what do you expect? If anything you should be encouraging the CPC to be a little more transparent and for Harper to answer more questions if you want the so-called truth to be reported in the media.

    When the PPG and the MSM have a deliberate campaign to demonize the Tories, making their agenda patently obvious, what do you expect? If anything you should be encouraging the CBC to be a little more transparent and Harper will likely answer more questions if the so-called media grew up and started providing balance for a change.

  74. Ruth says:

    bluecircle @9:16–“What will our school textbooks say in 50 years if Canadians re-elect a PM found in contempt of Parliament?”
    well, if the textbook authors are honest, they will say that this contempt charge was only manufactured as a way to bring down the government on something other than the budget.

  75. Liz J says:

    I agree with Adler, he’s bang on. Now who do we pass this message on to? It’s critical the PM lighten up and shout out all the positives and accolades.

    People from around the world are scratching their heads trying to figure out what’s going on in this country which is doing so well under the Harper government and the opposition and the media trying to take it down.

  76. maz2 says:

    PET Cemetery Open Award Awarded.

    Joint Big Lie Award Awarded to Liberal Count Ignatieff and O’Harvard by PET’s Privacy Commissar.

    …-

    “Ignatieff vows an open government

    Toronto Sun”

    …-

    “Obama gets openness award in private

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama accepted an award for making the government more open and transparent – presented to him behind closed doors with no media coverage or public access allowed.

    The discrepancy between the honor and the circumstances under which it was delivered bothered open-government advocates in attendance, they said Thursday. They were even more perturbed when they discovered later that the meeting hadn’t even been listed on Obama’s public schedule, so there was no way for anyone to know about it.

    “To have such a meeting not be transparent is the height of irony. How absurd can that be?” said one participant, Gary Bass, executive director of OMB Watch, which keeps tabs on the White House Office of Management and Budget.”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2697748/posts

  77. jon says:

    Adding to that Michael, is how disgusting it is when the media does the compare-and-contrast thingie, with Global National’s Shirley Engel saying that while Harper took only 4 questions, Iggy took 17…. she even split the screen, showing a Sesame Street-like graphic for those of us who can’t count. That’s 4 to 17 she enforced.

    Yeah, well, that’s to be expected, Shirley when you guys are his cheerleaders. I mean, seriously, why don’t you just put the ball on the tee and watching him launch ‘em out of the park.

    That crew at Global National is among the worst BTW. Engel, Harris and Bourbeau — a self-appointed Tory wrecking crew. I’m sure 1, 2 if not all 3 will be working at CBC someday… they’re probably already being coveted.

    It’s getting so bad that it’s become like a game for me. I’ll get home, flick on the TV and say to myself, “I wonder what they’ll be attacking PMSH this time” and sure enough, they’re right in the middle of one.

    PMSH is going to win either way…. he’ll get his majority OR the coalition will makes its move and he will say to Canadians “I told you so!”

  78. maz2 says:

    Neo-AGW Progress Report.

    Bat remains: Guano footprint for Lizard Red-Green May.

    …-

    “Wind turbine threat to bat populations costing farmers billions each year”

    “Thousands of bats have been killed by wind turbines causing a population decline that could cost the farming industry billions each year, experts claim.

    The nocturnal creatures are welcomed by farmers across the world as they eat large numbers of insects that usually damage crops.

    This reduces the amount that farmers have to spend on pesticides and saves millions of new plants that could be obliterated by the creepy crawlies.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1372235/Wind-turbine-threat-bat-populations-costing-farmers-billions-year.html

  79. Richco says:

    No kudos to Ignatieff in today’s London Free Press. There’s a tiny photo of Iggy on the front page but the article isn’t fawning. It’s actually luke warm to Ignatieff’s commitment to an issue in London. Right next to the photo of Iggy though is an article calling out the CBC for their fixed quiz.

    Lots in the papers today about how Harper needs to get smiling and talk about his economic record quit being so glum chum when his record should have him confidently showcasing every small victory he’s helped win for our country. We know he can be a really passionate guy when he gets talking bout Canada – we need to see that.

    Iggy’s game-show style speeches aren’t getting much traction either. He’s taking too much time on his monologue and hurling insults and cutesy comments at his opposition – Harper.

  80. Garfield says:

    To reduce the “lump in stomach” syndrome take one full measure of the Nanos rolling poll regarding battleground Ontario published today! Also, nationally, Libs down slightly, Tories up slightly.
    Loved Iggy yesterday having hot dogs and fries for lunch while promising regulations to limit salt in the diet of Canadians. What a bonehead!

  81. Liz J says:

    Blue Jerk @ 11:41 pm: If the media want answers they might start with questions that matter to the people. Asking, in some cases screaming, the same questions that feed into their anti Conservative agenda over and over has nothing to do with “transparency” and “truth”, they’re not on their wavelength. They’re into skewing the facts to manipulate opinion.

    The government was voted down on a bogus contempt charge by the opposition Coalition troika, they didn’t have the guts to take them down on the budget.

  82. Richco says:

    Joanne – “And in particular, go FUCK YOURSELF Richco. Calling me a paid troll?”

    this violates your terms of participation to this blog – please delete it. Those like Norm and “Jerk” seem to think that because they can swear and call names it makes them men. We must be hitting some raw nerves with all of the positive discussion about Harper. Keep it up BLY – it’s working.

    • Joanne says:

      Richco – I deleted that portion and Norm is in the filter for a while to cool off. We all have to be careful not to let our emotions get the better of us.

      If things get too intense just go out for a walk and blow off some steam. And I’m addressing that to everyone.

  83. Ellen says:

    To all those complaining about OUR PM Harper looking tired and irritable, stop, think and WALK A MILE IN HIS SHOES!!!!

  84. Joanne says:

    Good job Liz!!

  85. Joanne says:

    Missed that one Richco. I’ll look into it. Thanks.

  86. Richco says:

    Norm – my apologies for referring to you as a paid troll.

  87. maz2 says:

    PET Cemetery Report.

    Today’s Feature:

    Citoyen/Citizen of the World Liberal Count Ignatieff.

    …-

    “Ignatieff: Harper blew Canada’s chance with the UN security council

    Toronto Star”

    …-

    “UN takes the blame for condom shortage

    Daily Nation – Gatonye Gathura – ‎10 hours ago‎

    At a press conference in Nairobi yesterday called by UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, it also emerged that the specialised agency was facing what UNAids executive director Michel Sidibé called systemic planning and procurement problems.”

  88. maz2 says:

    “And in particular, go FUCK YOURSELF Richco. Calling me a paid troll?”

    Now, that’s Ughly.

    Ugh.

  89. Michael Harkov says:

    I’ll have my piece for “Blue Circle Jerk” after my morning java.

    • Joanne says:

      I’ll have my piece for “Blue Circle Jerk” after my morning java.

      Looking forward to it Michael Harkov.

  90. Richco says:

    “”What will our school textbooks say in 50 years if Canadians re-elect a PM found in contempt of Parliament?”

    it will not say anything because our school history textbooks are really really bad.
    Also, he was not found in contempt – he lost the confidence of the house – big difference.

    Good point about Obama not taking questions. I also heard that Trudeau himself ran a couple of campaigns at arm’s length of the press. Same thing as Harper -he was the front runner. Also, I would hope he’s pacing himself and hoping that Iggy puts his foot in his mouth or melts down as this election moves on. He’s good at doing that.

  91. Richco says:

    that one line was all that needs to be deleted. While I did apologize for suspecting him to be a paid troll – I know that they’re out there. His sudden burst of participation was suspicious as are a few others.

  92. jon says:

    OT but if PMSH gets a majority and eliminates the deficit in a few years time and, more importantly, does so without massive cuts to provincial health transfers, what’s that going to do to Paul Martin’s record and that of the Liberals in the ’90s?? Suddenly he and they won’t be looking so good.

  93. jon says:

    Last thing I’ll say…. CBC’s Thibideau now on now that the Libs increase of corporate tax rate will “bring in” $6 billion…. is she factoring in any hit to the economy from those business who may not set up shop here as a result?

  94. Alberta Girl says:

    Re Norm’s comment -When I read it yesterday, I actually agreed with him and then he started to get dumped on and called a Troll. At the time, I thought..hmmmmm, didn’t seem like a troll to me.

    I too would have been offended if I were new to posting on a blog and I got taken down by the “regulars”. I would have been crushed actually – I think Norm came back swinging and lashed out at those insinuating that he was somehow a “paid troll”. I don’t think it is fair he be put in the filter.

    In my opinion, we are all extremely frustrated at trying the fight this battle. I for one am exhausted – and I am a lowly commenter – I can’t imagine how the bloggers or more importantly, they CPC do it. This has been a battle for 5 years made worse by the advent of social media over the last 5 years. No other government has had to fight under the spotlight of social media – I often wonder what would have happened had they had to??

    So I am coming to Norm’s defense….because I agree with him – I am not feeling good at this point.

    • Joanne says:

      I don’t think it is fair he be put in the filter.

      He`s just in the filter for breach of language rules but we`ll make it a short stay. ;)

      Interesting question about partisan blogs in general though – should we critique strategies of our fav parties during an election or just keep cheering? Personally I prefer constructive criticism if it’s done tastefully.

      And yeah let’s not pile on each other. Too many other real opponents out there to fight.

  95. Richco says:

    Alberta Girl – telling a participant to Fuck Off violates the conditions of posting here. That last line in his post wasn’t called for, and neither was my accusing him of being a paid troll….to which I apologized.

    I don’t happen to think that Harper’s run a bad campaign in these early goings at all. He’s right on track.

    The fact is that trolls are around – I’m not making that up.

    • Joanne says:

      and neither was my accusing him of being a paid troll….to which I apologized.

      And thank you for that Richco.

  96. Richco says:

    Agreed Joanne.

  97. Alberta Girl says:

    “And yeah let’s not pile on each other. Too many other real opponents out there to fight.”

    That is my point…just because a new face pops up, it should be automatically assumed that he is a troll by the regular crowd.

    Just my opinion… and for the record – I also don’t agree he should have used that language, Richo – he did so after several insulting comments and just thinking about someone new deciding to be brave and leave a comment and then being torn down can be crushing.

    We all need to think about that before we jump to conclusions and belittle others for what they say because they don’t happen to “agree” with the rest of the gang.

  98. Bec says:

    Ditto AG @ 8:09am

  99. Bec says:

    HAHA…8:23am…
    more java please!

  100. Liz J says:

    There’s something else we need to consider when criticizing Stephen Harper for not looking like he’s full of joy without a care in the world, he’s still got hold of the reins, taking care of business. That business includes Afghanistan and Libya. He has serious tasks and issues to attend to beyond toting trays of hot dogs, and hamming it up for cameras which are hostile to him at the best of times.

    Ignatieff and Layton, Ducey and Lizzie can munch and sneer and fabricate with the help of their media pals, criticizing is easy, promising the moon and all the trimmings is easy when they know full well they’ll never have to see those promises through. Those wild promises won’t impact PM Harper’s plans, he won’t risk the economy countering those promises with bigger ones.

    I’m betting they’ll get tired of Lizzie May’s squealing and allow her a seat in the “debate”. If they do, I suggest they put her back to the camera this time instead of PM Harper that way we won’t get the urge to toss her some nuts or look at her pointing fingers.

  101. Richco says:

    Agree AG. We’ve all seen how when Sandy opens things up to discussions from all sides how the trolls take advantage of that.
    Are there conservatives out there who aren’t as won over by Harper as most of us are?
    Sure, when it’s the media we fight them off.

  102. Bec says:

    It is probably someone like Jenni Bryne or Guy Giorno that would be most likely the ones to contact re concerns but I trust that they have a healthy strategy despite our misgivings. It is a challenge to have a media that cuts off a statement in a presser, mid sentence.
    However for updates and pressers I found this on the Conservative’s blog and we can go there to see the real statements and releases.

    http://www.conservative.ca/press/campaign_blog/

  103. Liz J says:

    Hey Norm, you gotta feel better reading Adler’s column today!! Constructive criticism is good, we all can benefit from it.

    Don’t despair, we may be a bit edgy, it’s a stressful time dealing with so many hostile entities. We can’t afford to eat our own, it never works, ask the Liberals.

  104. Garfield says:

    Remember that pessimism is contagious, so take care what you say. That is why there is a preview on most sites, use it for more than spellcheck.
    Fortunately, optimism is even more contagious.

  105. Liz J says:

    Another consideration, it’s early days, people have short memories, let’s move in for the big stuff, the kill later in the campaign when folks are paying closer attention. We play our big hand long after Jack Layton’s bravado , Lizzie May’s squealing Ignatieff’s smiles and smarmy quips have worn thin.

  106. Dirt says:

    What the Media isn’t reporting is Harper has a country to run, an economy to keep on track and globally responsibilities. It’s easy for Iffy to woo the press he doesn’t have a country to run or a nation to protect, that folks is what the media doesn’t report. Considering the contempt the Liberal Media has show Harper and the millions of Conservative voters I’d say we’re the ones in the driver’s seat. Liberal Media can’t function without advertisors, they seem to forget that treating us like Conservative trash can hurt their bottom line and that’s the mistake Liberal Media made in the US and that’s why so many of those Liberal Outlets are now under Chapter 11 protection.

    • Joanne says:

      What the Media isn’t reporting is Harper has a country to run, an economy to keep on track and globally responsibilities

      Dirt – Excellent point. He still has to deal with urgent issues – Canada’s role in Afghanistan, Libya, Japan etc., but can’t really make any references to that other than in the case of a national emergency, if I understand the election rules properly.

      Not only that but as we all know Iggy is an actor who loves the limelight so why wouldn’t he be smiling like a Cheshire cat right now?

      After mulling over Adler’s column for a while now, I’m not sure that I agree with all his points.

  107. Wildrose says:

    Hello All………I read this blog regularly, it is a “must read” to keep up on this election campaign. I can see that some are becoming frustrated and somewhat pessimistic about some of the hijinks going one and just wanted to make a few comments.

    I facilitate a Leadership discussion annually for a youth organization I am affiliated with and have thus done some research on the topic. Those who are known for their leadership abilities say that optimism is a “force multiplier”. And not the mindless “I’m a happy bluebird” Pollyanna variety, but a firm commitment to looking at a positive direction. Optimistic people can continue to see the opportunities and possibilities even in difficult straits and can move towards positive goals – they don’t become stuck in a rut of inaction. For example, I offer the attitude of the British people in the Battle of Britain. To this day, military experts say that there is no way that Britain should have won this battle as all factors were against them………but they DID win. It was the simple fact that the British refused to give up – their attitude alone – that ultimately convinced Hitler that his efforts were in vain. This is the power of optimism……..it motivates and gives rise to new opportunities.

    I certainly don’t blame anyone for getting frustrated and tired and personally I have been very frustrated by the tack the media has taken, too. The bloggers here have been doing yeoman’s work in keeping up to date in a fluid situation. But I have to say to you “keep the faith”, remain optimistic and continue to act in a way that is consistent with your values – don’t get pulled into the mud because you will regret it later. Battles are won by those who show up – and continue to show up – to fight. We fight for the future of our country in no less a manner than Churchill and the British in WWII. Let the media discredit themselves by their own actions – already people distrust them and this will only continue, especially with the efforts of people here in rooting out the truth. These things do not happen overnight, but require a continued effort. From what I have seen, I believe that Canada is changing as we speak, in to a more mature country, but this has been a slow process……….just hang on and allow the “cake to finish baking”!

    Take care of yourselves – get some rest, go outside for a walk in the Canadian spring, love your families. Don’t get pulle down into the mud by the evil trolls but remember your goals and aspirations.

    All the Best to everyone!

  108. Alberta Girl says:

    Wise words Wildrose! Thanks

  109. Richco says:

    Wildrose “But I have to say to you “keep the faith”, remain optimistic and continue to act in a way that is consistent with your values – don’t get pulled into the mud because you will regret it later. Battles are won by those who show up – and continue to show up – to fight.” A terrific sentence.

    I must add that for those who need a cure for the blue blues call or pay a visit to your nearest conservative MP or candidate and listen to what they’re hearing at the door – and it’s very good news. They also have their own internal polls to talk about that we sometimes forget are a huge factor in strategy on any given day.

  110. Norm says:

    Yes, bad language was not called for and I do apologize to Richco in particular and everyone else.

    While I don’t post very regularly I have made a few over the last year or so and didn’t just “discover” BLY yesterday.

    • Joanne says:

      Yes, bad language was not called for and I do apologize to Richco in particular and everyone else.

      Alright then Norm, you’re out of the doghouse. Everyone has apologized and we can now all enjoy our weekends. :)

  111. batb says:

    Bob Fife is a twit.

    How did he get to where he is at CTV? Who does he know?

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