Many lefty elitists are voicing their opposition to Candice Hoeppner’s private member’s bill to eliminate the long-gun registry – namely Top Cop Brass, university profs and their koolaid-drunk ducklings, lefty pols, Big Government Bureaucrats and Public Sector Top Dogs.
But while some of those folks have a perfect right to express their political viewpoints, the Chiefs of Police are in the tricky situation of trying to stay apolitical because police are expected to uphold legislated laws – not set them or unduly lobby against elected Members of Parliament with whom they have a difference of opinion.
Even Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair expressed a desire “not to wade too far into political waters.”
And so I have some concern about a column in today’s Kitchener Record by Waterloo Regional Police Chief Matt Torigian stating the following:
…Each person charged with a criminal offence stemming from an incident involving domestic violence is checked to determine what, if any, firearms are registered to them. This search reveals both handguns and long-guns. The proposed legislation, supported by all local MPs, would see to it that police could no longer determine what, if any, long-guns are owned by an accused…
Our local MPs here happen to be Conservative, so this strikes me as somewhat unnecessarily political. Why would Matt Torigian say that except to stir the pot and build support for other parties that happen to agree with him?
While I could do another whole post on what’s wrong with the logic of his arguments in the article itself, this foray into the political spectrum is most disturbing aspect to me.
If he wants to run for political office, he should come right out and say so.
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Related
The purpose of the gun registry – Parts 1 and 2 by Mark Peters at The Politic, with a very interesting link to the NFA.
Gun owners target police chiefs – QMI:
Over 90% of cops who responded to a survey organized by Edmonton police Const. Randy Kuntz were in favour of getting rid of the registry. The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police (CACP), however, has been fighting to keep the registry, arguing it saves lives.
The Canadian Shooting Sports Association, based in Vaughan, Ont., wants to see the registry dismantled and the funding used to put more cops on the street, among other things.
“The burning question is this — since when do Canadians allow police chiefs to create the policies that should be made by our elected representatives?” association executive director Larry Whitmore said in a statement.
“How long will Canadians tolerate the tail wagging the dog?”
Ethics expert says police chiefs’ association has track record of “dodgy behaviour. – Larry Whitmore, Executive Director Canadian Shooting Sports Association (at Gun Owners’ Resource):
…The gun registry is not gun control. It merely lays a piece of paper beside a gun, which has no bearing on whether it will be used for good or evil. And, criminals don’t apply for that piece of paper because they want their firearms kept secret. At an estimated cost of $2 billion and growing daily, there are myriad compelling reasons to send the registry riding off into the sunset.
So, why do the politically motivated police associations lobby so breathlessly to keep the registry? The answer may have more to do with financial gain than social conscience…
(This is a MUST-READ)
Get tough on gun crime, not on farmers – Winnipeg Free Press
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Sunday Update
Welcome Jack’s Newswatch Readers! (H/T Mary T)
I think it’s becoming more and more clear that there are major problems in the RCMP hierarchy. This from today’s Times Colonist
A top RCMP officer has issued a “thinly veiled threat” to strip funding from Simon Fraser University if its lead criminologist doesn’t stop criticizing the force.
In an e-mail obtained by the Colonist, RCMP Deputy Commissioner Gary Bass chastises Robert Gordon, director of Simon Fraser’s criminology department, for his comments in the media that RCMP “arrogance” stalled the investigation into serial killer Robert Pickton.
“I would like to suggest that you should be much more careful in speaking on issues where you have no direct personal knowledge or where you may not be getting accurate information fed to you,” Bass wrote in the lengthy e-mail sent Aug. 22. That was two days after Vancouver police Deputy Chief Doug LePard released his report on the bungled missing women investigation, which placed significant blame on the Mounties’ shoulders.
Bass went on to question the RCMP’s role as a key donor for Simon Fraser’s Institute for Canadian Urban Research Studies, which is housed in the School of Criminology.
“The ongoing bias you display against the RCMP in articles such as this have caused many to ask why we would want to continue to be in that partnership given this apparent lack of support from the head of the department,” wrote Bass.
While there may be errors on both sides here, there is definitely no place for this kind of arrogant threatening behaviour.
And of course there is the RCMP officer who was in charge at the time of the Mayerthorpe shooting who was moved (demoted ?) to being administrator of the gun registry and seems to have been conducting a one-man lobbying effort to keep it in business.
I see today that the government have reaffirmed thier support for Bill Elliott, and it sure looks like he needs it, but expect more howls of outrage from the media and the opposition who apparently see nothing wrong in this.
Step # 1 in confiscation — register .
”…Bass went on to question the RCMP’s role as a key donor for Simon Fraser’s Institute for Canadian Urban Research Studies, which is housed in the School of Criminology…”
The RCMP are doners to SF?
The Police Cheifs accepted a donation of $115,000 from the CGI group of companies, the producer of the software for the gun registry.
What is going on here?????
Why is there ‘influence’ cash being passed around in our national police force?
No wonder PMSH appointed Elliot, an outsider, to clean up the RCMP.
Something really stinks.
Wilson @ 11:25 am – From my ‘Must-read’ update:
I wouldn’t necessarily accept this as Gospel truth but I think it does warrant some investigative reporting. Wish I had the time & resources.
Wilson,
The RCMP funds two research chair positions, at a cost of $4 million over the last five years. It recently renewed the $4-million contribution for the next five years.
The full article
http://www2.canada.com/story.html?id=3482585
Do I know why the RCMP funds research chair positions when they are apparently short of the officers on the street that they need ? No, but I’d be interested to hear if someone could explain. The more I read about this organization, the more I think Bill Elliott should simply remove the top 3 or 4 layers.
We used to stand with the police in our party.
When we were the Canadian Alliance and the Reform Party, we might not have agreed with everything the police had to say, but we didnt snipe at them just because they have a different point of view.
We used to be the party of law and order. Now all i see are a bunch of tired political hacks who will do or say anything to keep their jobs.
The CPC has turned into something worse than what the Liberals became in the latter half of their governing term. At least the Libtards knew how to obtain the support of 40+% of the electorate.
Here we are taking pot shots at the police with our polling numbers dropping off a cliff into Dion territory.
Editorials in the G&M and the Montreal Gazzette urge MPs to kill the long gun registry…
http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Getting+beyond+emotion+long+registry/3481156/story.html#ixzz0yZJm71a5
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/editorials/this-registry-doesnt-register/article1696103/
Last places I expected to come across common sense, eh?
Springer – Yeah! Very surprising editorials!!
Canadian Alliance, Reform Party and CPC have ALWAYS, always stood for killing the long gun registry, John.
And the cop on the street agrees with the CPC.
Nothing has changed except for the shake up with the top brass in the RCMP.
A long overdue shake up.
Something stinks, and turning a blind eye to it doesn’t make one a good Conservative.
Next RCMP constable I talk to who supports the gun registry will be the first.
As one member said to me, quietly, to paraphrase: “We keep our opinions to ourselves. Nobody really wants to get transferred to Inuvik.”
from Springers link,
”…But since 1991, gun owners have been required to possess a Firearms Acquisition Certificate,
issued by the RCMP.
And they have to produce that FAC before buying a gun.
*The purchase is then recorded.
If police know that a suspect has an FAC and owns two guns, why do they need to know the serial numbers?…”
(And isn’t that serial number recorded on the record of purchase too?)
Iffy’s finally waded into the healthcare debate!!
‘…In the next campaign, Ignatieff will attempt to portray the Conservatives as a party that is uninterested in improving health care and is leaving it to the provinces….’
Yup, healthcare is waaaaaay too important to leave up to the provinces!
Iffy Liberals to the rescue!
Oh, and watch out Premiers, Iffy is going to fix your education systems too!
How have we been able to exist for this long without the brilliance of Iffy?
Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Health+care+issue+Liberals+Ignatieff+says/3481122/story.html#ixzz0yZwybpEc
Iffy meddling in provincial areas should go over well in Quebec.
Not!
I though Kory asked a very good question yesterday on P&P re the petition to stop suntv (suncor tv, lol) when he asked what would the outrage be if the NRA come out with a campaign in Canada to scrap the registry.
Why is the RCMP funding or donating money to other causes, when they say they need more funding for officers on the street.
Amazing what is coming out of the woodwork re the RCMP head honchos. And how much of the problems are raised from the people that want to form a union. They use pretty unsavory tactics.
I think the police chiefs believe they are the law . And they aren’t alone . I live by a school / playground zone .I have seen police cars speed through this zone during school hours and the playground zone at speeds you or I would get a $150.00 or more fine for and I’m pretty sure he never wrote himself a ticket .
Maybe if liberals has not cut transfer payments to provinces for health care, to balance the books, the provinces could have improved their systems.
wow, your link Joanne, sure illustrates just what Commissioner Elliot (and the Harper govt) is up against.
”…The whole committee had been warning the CACP board of directors for some time that they should stop taking money from organizations they do business with – the ethics committee said it’s a clear conflict of interest….”
Here’s another thing that reeeeeeally pisses me off about registration…
The theory is that it provides the means to backtrack ownership of a firearm involved in a crime.
So it goes like this: Some punks break into your home, and digging around in the middle of the night they manage to find a gun stored in the back of a closet. They steal it, peddle it on the street, and a couple months later it ends up being seized in a criminal investigation.
They trace the weapon to you.
Now you are charged with “improper storage”, and are forced to get yourself a lawyer and spend upwards of a kabillion dollars in legal fees over the next couple years to keep your sorry victimized butt out of prison.
Bottom line: Now you are a two time loser.
In court the prosecution will in all likelihood portray you as a some sort of red necked, gun toting, irresponsible freak of society, and another violent “gun” crime just waiting for a place to happen.
The media will revel in printing all this crap at every opportunity.
And, if the perps, the ones who violated the sanctity of your home, your freedoms, and your rights, and who stole your firearm in process are caught and available, they will be almost assuredly called upon to testify against you.
You will be subject to major fines, and possibly a prison sentence.
The perps, as we all know, will be deemed by the court to be “disadvantaged” and “misunderstood”, meaning the real victims in all of this. They will almost certainly be given probation, maybe 50 hours of public service, a darn good talking to, and sent on their way. Their umpteen other previous arrests and convictions will be “taken into consideration”. Naturally, the “system” will provide them free legal council.
In Canada the Liberal Left call this “justice”.
On the other hand…
It’s the middle of the night, and a gang of thugs launch a home invasion upon you.
You hear them enter your home, and you think, where’s my guns to protect myself and my wife and kids?
Oh, yeah…they’re downstairs locked up in a safe.
You get a sickening knot in your gut as realize you all are in fact completely defenseless.
And all that’s left for you is to pray, and if need be, beg on your knees for your very lives…God forbid you’re forced to witness terrible acts I don’t even want to mention.
This scenario also is touted by Canada’s Liberal Left as “justice” and “in the interests of public safety”.
Conversely, if you didn’t have your firearm locked up, and you used it to protect yourself, plan on spending the next several years in court being cast as a dangerous criminal and threat to society, your life being raked over by the MSM, and ultimately most likely your career, and even your marriage, going to hell in a hand-basket.
Only in Canada, eh?
No, happens in other places, too…think, f’rinstance, Britain…wherever the Liberal Left have had their way.
Charest brought in a health tax (user fee) in June.
Iffy was for it before (perhaps his coalition partner Jack whispered sweet ‘no way’ in his ear)
he was against it.
Iffy did a total flip flop in the matter of hours.
Maybe the Libluvin media could educate Iffy on how the healthcare system in CANADA works.
Feds pay a portion, Provinces deliver……period.
Here’s something we’ll never see:
Iggy holding a press conference, waxing eloquent about “building more schools and fewer prisons”.
Followed by one of the journalists asking: “But, but, but, the chiefs of police are all in FAVOR of building more prisons ? And you said the other day, that when it comes to believing Minister Toews or the chiefs of police (re the gun registry), you would side with the chiefs every day ? So are the chiefs infallible or not, when it comes to public safety ?”
Iggy’s got so many contradictory, incoherent policy “positions”, it’s ridiculous.
The bottom line is: the executive branch of government sets policy, based on many considerations, and input from numerous sources. The police chiefs, like any third party DO NOT have the final word.
They can advocate all they want, over anything they want, but have to live with the consequences.
The vote on Candice’s bill can’t come soon enough.
Outgoing OPP commish Jul;ian Fantino has long been on record against the Long-Gun registry. Funny the msm never mentions that. On Power Play recently Evan stated he was unsure of Fantino’s position, and was advised of Fantino’s comments, which he quickly dismissed becuase he was unaware of them.
And slightly off topic. The police officers which poll showed the majority of rank and file officers were against the registry was dismissed as a straw poll, yet Soros has a poll that includes among the signees Snuffulufugus and Boba Fett is considered reliable by one Kady O’Malley. Sheesh.
and Boba Fett is considered reliable by one Kady O’Malley
Which is another reason why I unfollowed Kady.
‘Iggy’s got so many contradictory, incoherent policy “positions”, it’s ridiculous’
And PMSH will turn Iffy into a blubbering pile of tofu, come the next election campaign.
Iffy is soooooooooo over his head, it will be hard to watch (but we will!)
A blast from the past !
Chantal Hebert, March 2009:
Gun registry debate a signal moment for Ignatieff
While Ignatieff has said, in a recent CTV interview, that he would not support measures designed to gut the registry, he has also, at other times, mused that the guns of hunters and farmers are hardly central to the issue of criminal gun violence.
In their rush to paint its opponents as gun-loving right-wingers, advocates of the registry often overlook the fact that, at the time of its inception, it was opposed by a rainbow coalition of premiers, including New Brunswick’s Frank McKenna and Saskatchewan’s Roy Romanow.
The federal NDP also originally opposed the registry.
And Calgary Police Chief Rick Hanson is also opposed to the gun registry. As is the Alberta government, as I posted here yesterday.
BTW, for what it’s worth, our friend, well maybe, Rex Murphy, thinks there might be a Fall election.
Not much use looking for the media to report anything that doesn’t fit with their Lib/Left agenda. Even when, as they say in Newfie, “the arse is outta ‘er” for the Liberals they’ll still keep working like Santa’s Elves on Christmas Eve to spin the facts to manipulate opinion.
I’m with you Wilson, I don’t think Iggy has a hope on the hustings with PM Harper, unless Lizzy May comes to his rescue with her pointy fingers and shrill vocal talent.
I’d say, though not across the board, the caliber of people who enter our police service at any level may have changed due to several factors, political correctness is in the mix.
Some years ago several recommendations from prominent people, clergy, Lawyers, Doctors etc. from your community as to your character. Today that may all be shot down due to the Bill of Rights.
What could be worse than any kind of corruption in our police forces? They really have no damned business interfering in politics. It only takes a few bad apples to tarnish the reputation of many. What’s so wrong with simply being honest and telling the truth?
Add to CJ’s 1:21
provinces refused to prosecute (2003) using the Long Gun Registry…..
MANITOBA
SASKATCHEWAN
ALBERTA
ONTARIO
NOVA SCOTIA
BRITISH COLUMBIA
NEWBRUNSWICK
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article164.htm
PROVINCES REFUSING TO PROSECUTE
FIREARMS ACT OFFENCES
September 13, 2003
MANITOBA
SASKATCHEWAN
ALBERTA
ONTARIO
NOVA SCOTIA
BRITISH COLUMBIA
NEWBRUNSWICK
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article164.htm
Wilson @ 2:08, 2:09, sorry just discovered your comments in the spam filter:
(2003)
The problems started when they lowered the standards and put in quotas and affirmative actions and allowed changes to the uniform. It seems it takes about 20 years for a decision or ‘great idea’ to be proven wrong. Take climate change, global warming/cooling as examples. How many head honchos of govt depts are there for no other reason than affirmative action and quotas, and promoted far beyond their capabilities.
How much damage have they done due to political correctness, which IMHO was nothing but an excuse not to tell the truth.
I think the tide has turned and we no longer worry about being insulted with words like racist, bigots, we will tell the truth about bogus refugees, we will call protesters out for destroying property and making fools of themselves.
And eventually we will expose the leftist media for all their bias.
They are doing a great job of it themselves with their overthetop coverage of PMSH.
OT/Roy Green is talking about gun registry right now. He has Candice Hoeppner on and later Joe Comartin from the NDP.
Tomorrow he will have a major segment of his show on Tea Party movement in Canada.
Frmgrl – Thanks. Just tuning in now.
Boy Roy Green sure had Comartin on the ropes!
Interesting reading here. The latest posts are at the bottom which is unusual but very worthwhile checking them all out.
Anyone remember a time in our country when such little respect, to no damned respect was shown to the Prime Minister of the day?
I know we have an abundance of laws but there really should be a law against some of the stuff the present media say on a regular basis about our PM. It’s shameful, it should be litigious, but alas, that would take away some right or other which trumps all.
Liz J, For what it worth to the media to behave as they do against/towards the PM will no doubt be repaid in full.
BTW, there are three ‘FAKE’ Prime Ministers which the media support with their lives- they are: lib, ndp and the bloc-why the last two? is because they signed onto a coalition agreement with the liberals therefore, anyon signing with the liberals is a sign contract to all medias to support.
Canada has one prime minister stephen harper who the world think highly of him.
So the hits to the registry have gone from 9400/day to 11,000/day in a couple of years. And they say crime is going down.
The figures remind me of a discussion I had with a bored Stats Can gal years ago. I asked her where all the bodies were being hidden, had there been a huge surge in sales of freezers etc. Dave R had some gal telling us about all the deaths from this, that or the other thing, 3 days in a row. But, stats can reported to me that during the year in question only x number of deaths in Canada, from all ages and all causes were about 100,000 less than these gals were spouting,if you added up their totals. So, where were the bodies. She could give me a breakdown by prov and cause and age if I wanted. I have never believed those experts figures since. Dave did ask one of them how much she was paid to do her job, and after much back and forth she finally admitted she was paid 80,000/yr from the Red Cross (no more donations from me). He said, for that kind of money I could be against smoking also.
It seems anyone can get on the radio or tv or write in the paper and use any figure they want and no one ever questions them, they just get repeated because so and so said it.
Joe C did say today that about 30 hits/day involved guns. That is up from 19 in the article. Does that mean there has been an increase in crime of about 45% in a couple of years.
I agree, the bill has to go to third reading.
Remember this, there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
How are police chiefs selected, isn’t it by some non police committee. And why does it take so long to find a new one, when one resigns. There appears to be a canada wide search by some group of head hunters. How many are promoted from the ranks of their depts. Not many I don’t think.
Just like the complaints the RCMP commissioner knows nothing about anything (not my opinion) I would think that a affirmative action hired chief for some city in a different prov from where the applicant lived and served, would know nothing about conditions or practices or the men and women of his new force. He would know how to kiss you know where with the mayor and council.
Mary, part of the problem selecting Police Chiefs is the fact they have to speak French and English, in some cases passable English will do but the French must be fluent.
It’s another stumbling block to getting the best person for the job.
Who do police chiefs answer to, I wonder?
The last time I looked we had one federal government. The Liberals, NDP and Bloc started the ball rolling by giving the impression that they, too, had the right to govern. Since then, many organizations, groups and individuals have followed suit. I wonder if this is caused by the disease of entitlement??
As pointed out by Liz and others, there is little respect for our duly elected government. The Conservative government alone has a mandate to govern this country. What is happening in Canada is an affront to democracy. The lefties, through their lack of respectful behaviour, have shown contempt for our government, our way of life, and the Canadian people.
Speaking about the lefties, maybe we have some good news after all??
Happy Days Might Be Around The Corner
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Friday, September 03, 2010
By: Howard Galganov
“But, after writing about all of this doom and gloom, there is a real reason for many of us to start thinking that there will be better times ahead. Not just a bit better times, but better times on steroids.”
“This time, we will be recovering from an ideological/social/financial war inflicted upon the world from the LEFT – THE ENEMY FROM WITHIN. But this time, instead of bombs and bullets, our war will be fought and won with ballots.”
“The FIRST major VICTORY will be won by the GOOD GUYS this coming November when the House Democrats are virtually driven out of office, with the Senate going Republican, or so close, that it becomes a political Eunuch giving neither comfort nor support to Obama and his cadre.”
“IF – And it’s a REAL BIG IF . . . If the Republicans do in office what they promised to do on the campaign trail, there will be an honest to goodness EXPLOSION of CONFIDENCE and GROWTH.”
“I am so confident that the American economy and entrepreneurial spirit will EXPLODE with such enthusiasm, that America, like in the past, will once again carry the entire planet on her shoulders to better times.”
“I would bet the farm that America will rise from the ashes of Pelosi, Reid, OBAMA and all the other LEFTISTS and Republican “moderates” to once again be “THAT SHINING CITY UPON A HILL”.”
“As many, or some of you might know, Gary Sinese of CSI New York has a terrific Rock and Roll Band that entertains the troops wherever they might be. Also, Sinese uses his band to play concerts across the USA to raise money to build special homes for wounded veterans.
The name of the organization is “BUILDING HOMES FOR HEROES”.
The Web Site is . . . http://buildinghomesforheroes.org
“If there is a comparable effort being made in Canada for our Canadian wounded HEROES, we would be just as proud to write a personal check for them as well.”
Read the full editorial here:
http://www.galganov.com/editorials/9-3-2010/freedom-is-not-free/happy-days-might-be-around-the-corner/
Socialist Tony gets no respect.
Ziffy’s good buddy here*.
Notice the year: 1997.
Liberal Ziffy: “Just Visiting” “The Canadians”.
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“Shoes, eggs hurled at ex-Brit PM Blair in Dublin
The Associated Press – John Heaney – 4 hours ago
DUBLIN – Protesters hurled shoes and eggs Saturday at Tony Blair who held the first public signing of his memoir amid high security in Ireland’s capital.”
(googlenews)
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Here*:
>>> Ziffy’s other lives include: historian Ziffy.
British Reserve — Nov 21, 1997 — CNN — Vanderbilt Television **
[Talkshow GUESTS, British Prime Minister Tony BLAIR, historian Michael IGNATIEFF, Dr. James THOMPSON, WRKO radio Marjorie CLAPPROOD, talk show host Robert Kilroy SILK, historian …
tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=412561
Joanne, I’m guessing but the Chief of Police in OPP might answer to the District Commissioner who would answer to the Commissioner in Toronto. I had a brother-in-law who was District Superintendent in OPP in Northern Ontario several years ago, never did ask who he answered to!
Liz @ 7:19 pm – Thanks for that. I wonder what the Commissioners are saying on the long-gun registry and the amount of leeway that police chiefs have to exercise political interference?
Another cut to the arts for socialists ZiffyMcGuinty, et al.
More cuts, please.
Down with socialism.
Say No! to the Separatist Coalition.
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“So long, nanny state
Britain working through tough economic issues; Canada must as well
By Michael Coren, QMI Agency
England has survived the Norman Conquest, the Black Death, a civil war or two and Hitler’s bombs. So it can certainly survive an economic crisis.
But oh how this is hurting and how it’s transforming the social democratic nature of the United Kingdom and proving that the nanny state doesn’t work even in the land of Mary Poppins!
The idea of welfare and social services began here at the beginning of the 20th century, partly as a result of the evidence of German success following Otto von Bismarck’s introduction of government help for working people. He was hardly a left-winger and the British politicians who followed him, notably Winston Churchill and David Lloyd George, were then old-style Liberals rather than socialists.
It was mild, moderate and sensible. A little aid for those who really needed it.
After 1945, the Labour Party government, owing more to Methodism than to Marx, introduced whole-scale public medicine and economic nationalization, but this was consensus politics in that the Tories and Liberals all supported the move.
So it wasn’t just the left that made Britain so dependent on the state, and it’s important to appreciate this if we’re to realize what is going on in this nation. The culture is interventionist and has been for 70 years. The only person who seriously challenged this was Margaret Thatcher, and she has become a despised figure — an unhappy icon of apparent right-wing extremism.
She was correct, of course. The public debt and deficit are now so large that public services are being cut by up to 40% and sales taxes are rising, sometimes to 20%.
The money has run out, and, in fact, did so some time ago. Even though the British economy was booming for 20 years, public expenditure was so obscenely high that what was once an economically dominant empire is now an island not too far from bankruptcy.
You wouldn’t know it from the crowded stores and busy high streets, but spend time in medium-sized and small towns in the north and midlands, and the pain is tangible.
It’s not that people are lazy or indifferent, but that they were told from birth that there would always be someone there to find them a job, make them feel better, pick them up if they fell, even tell them what to think.
Now we have a Tory/Liberal coalition government led by patricians with assumptions of wealth and power gradually dismantling the entire system.”
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/michael_coren/2010/09/03/15241281.html
So,maz@, Michael Ignatieff was also a historian? Damn, I’ve heard of a coat of many colours but what would one label such an accomplished and talented man? How about Superman?
Wonder what or who will write about his latest foray into politics?
have a look at this Stephen Harper-Biography and Quotes-The Canada eZine
who or what is this group?
needs to be investigated
fh
Hi Joanne
Thanks for covering the issue and the link. I put the stickies at the top with the stuff that newer people (or curious to the issue) can read and get “educated”.
I’ll change that once 391 is passed. I find the facts are more important than my opinion.
Nightmare
Curious name you’ve got there, Nightmare, but lot’s of interesting stuff to read. Cheers.
PROVINCES REFUSING TO PROSECUTE
FIREARMS ACT OFFENCES
September 13, 2003
MANITOBA
SASKATCHEWAN
ALBERTA
ONTARIO
NOVA SCOTIA
BRITISH COLUMBIA
NEWBRUNSWICK
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR
http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article164.htm
“(This is a MUST-READ)”
It absolutely was Joanne. And it rekindled an old Adscam memory that involved the RCMP’s role in it. Zaccardelli getting an expensive pair of boots and and something to do with the RCMP horse exhibitions.
And remember the problems with the RCMP pension plan and some female removed.
To bad we can’t find out how many head honchos of all depts are about ready to retire or will fight to get renewed. Bet most of them were put there by libs and thought they would get big patronage jobs when they were out.
Can you imagine what things would be like without blogs and the internet and google.
The new GG to be is off to see the Queen, and will be installed Oct 1st.
Anyone know if libs/ndp have nominated a full slate yet for the next election. Anyone out there in Hollands riding, how are things going there, can he be defeated by a large margin.
Another question re polls, are they broken down anywhere to see where the support is, especially for the greens. Considering that the Green Party in AB is no longer in existence where will those votes go.
“Anyone out there in Hollands riding, how are things going there, can he be defeated by a large margin.”
Holland is in trouble whenever the next election is Mary. It’s my riding. In the 2008 election Holland’s margin of votes was wittled down in the thousands. And that was by a Conservative candiadate named after the writ was dropped. The campaign office wasn’t even opened up until after the first two weeks of the campaign. This is the new candidate we have running in the next election, one I and others consider a star candidate:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=141983894692
By the way, the local media here is a perfect example of what we are up against. When Ignatieff visited the riding the local paper reported several hundred people attended, and the actual number was less then 200.
When the PM recently visited, 600 tickets were pre-sold, and the hall was packed shoulder to shoulder, roughly 900 people attending. The paper reported a few hundred.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Operation-Turf-Mark-Holland/133588559987979
http://bcblue.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/video-turf-mark-holland-now-thats-a-campaign-i-can-fully-endorse/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnRLVIAnQ-s
That any help with your question paulstuff?
That is why we have to attend every town hall or visit by the opposition or our own person, to get the truth out there. I have spent a lot of time at electiontarget.com and been adding votes etc to see where we can pick up seats. Iggy is dreaming of ndpers will vote for him to stop the PM, when in most of the ridings they come second and libs 3rd. I am sure the 15,000 plus ndp voters will vote for the lib who got around 5,000 in a riding we won in BC.
If we get strong serious candidate who think they should win we will improve our seat count.
Maybe those of us in very safe conservative ridings here in AB should donate to this defeat Holland cause, or his opponents campaign when the time comes. As we have a new candidate this time, he might not win by the 20,000 plus of the sitting member, but he will win. And if they put up the same old lib who has lost for years, there will be no problem. And during an election, blood is not thicker than water. LOL. Good thing we are not close so I can’t convert him.
Paulsstuff @ 11:41 pm, with a local media padding numbers for Iggy’s appearance it’s sure going to be an uphill battle to get the truth out and defeat Holland, one of the most obnoxious MP’s on the Hill.
Passing over Chris Alexander for that would be a travesty. He’s a very knowledgeable young man and such a contrast to Horrible Holland. If I lived in that riding I’d be pounding the streets to get him elected.
What’s the coffee shop buzz?
Paulsstuff @ 11:41 pm, with a local media padding numbers for Iggy’s appearance it’s sure going to be an uphill battle to get the truth out and defeat Holland, one of the most obnoxious MP’s on the Hill.
Well Cgnnightmare (strange handle, that) has left a number of links just a few comments ago. One is a Facebook site, which is a start.
I agree that Holland is obnoxious.
I can’t believe this headline, or the article.
The case of the prime ministerial glasses
from NNW. In the entire article PMSH is referred to as Prime Minister Harper.
But the topic is weird, why is he wearing glasses all the time.
It is a fun read. Must be a slow news day when this “image makeover” is a top story.
Mary T – Yeah that was a strange one.
BTW, does anyone understand this line in Spector’s column?
Joanne try Blog NO DOGS OR ANGLOPHONES
interesting piece on Mr. Peladeau
fh
The PM is a busy man, contrary to the MSM accusing him of hiding and taking “weeks’ of vacation, perhaps he just hasn’t got the time to deal with contacts every day.
Mary, I think it’s a sign they’re out of things to fill in as news, at least news that fits their agenda.
the article on mr. Peladeau is dated July 9, 2010
fh
Fh – This one?
yes that one
do not know if it helps but it is interesting
fh
Thanks Fh. What I’m curious about is that reference to Desmarais. Do they have media connections? Anyone know?
Joanne at 8:09 am, maybe that line refers to the fact the Desmarais family owns the La Presse newspaper & the Cyberpresse chain of newspapers. A bit of competition going on maybe? … as in … my media empire is bigger than yours …
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BTW, re: the PM wearing glasses. Why is he wearing them? Because he read my advice to him here on July 12, when I said:
“Never mind the sweater to soften up his image with the image-obsessed crowd … the glasses give him a softer yet, dare I say, sexy look? IMO, of course.”
Which proves two things:
• The PM reads this blog
• And I’m nuttier than a fruitcake, thinking I can influence him!
OK, just having a bit of fun with the glasses bit, but I do think he looks really good with them. As Tim Powers says in that article, the very fact that’s what some people are discussing shows how lucky we are here in Canada, spending time discussing such trivia as the reason for the PM’s glasses … or the merits of a mandatory versus a voluntary census.
Joanne at 8:09 am, maybe that line refers to the fact the Desmarais family owns the La Presse newspaper & the Cyberpresse chain of newspapers. A bit of competition going on maybe? … as in … my media empire is bigger than yours …
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Aha. Thanks Gabby!
Haven’t done any in depth research on the Peladeau family but from a bit of information there are at least two positives come to the fore for the Junior Peladeau, he’s Conservative and he didn’t inherit his father’s looks.
I hate to do this but I am going to as I know you are an advocate against wind turbines
off topics
Joanne when you get some free time
go to youTube and enter Dr Robert McMurtry wind turbines a classmate of mine and a man to be trusted
on this topic
fh
That info should be sent off to the Loopy Left who live on Wolfe Island offshore from Kingston and allowed them to pollute their landscape. It’s a real eyesore, ruining the vista from Kingston’s beautiful downtown Waterfront park.
Maybe we should be more optimistic and count on them twirling some sense into their freaking heads.
This post has been picked up by JNW.
So the media is trying to make a controversy , attempting desperately to trivialize our Prime Minister because he is wearing glasses?
Whats next ? Boxers or Briefs?
Leads Bubba to state unequivocally that ;
Our Leader may wear glasses….. the Media are only silly asses.
I hope Sun Media finally gets rolling and starts reporting some real news for grownups, the media in this Country aren’t doing their job. Every time they try to be clever, H1N1, Hostgate, etc they just look pathetic. The pass they are giving Mr Ignatieff on his droning “Meet The Canadians” tour is juvenile, he is not being asked the hard questions an aspiring leader should know the answers to.
I need a bit of help … is my memory playing tricks on me?
In the discussion around Sun TV, there’s a reference to the PM reportedly having a “secret meeting” with media mogul Rupert Murdoch.
According to this cyberpresse report http://tinyurl.com/2fufqka
«La Presse Canadienne a par ailleurs révélé en juin dernier que le premier ministre Harper avait tenu une rencontre secrète au printemps 2009 avec Rupert Murdoch et Roger Ailes, respectivement propriétaire et président de la chaîne américaine Fox News. …”
Loosely translated:
“Canadian Press revealed last June that the PM had held a secret meeting with Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes, respectively owner and CEO of the American network Fox News …”
Here’s where my foggy memory comes in … wasn’t there a picture of Mr. Harper in a New York eatery with Michael Bloomberg AND Rupert Murdoch when the PM was in New York …? So was that meeting as “secret” as it’s being portrayed?
I came across this interesting take:
http://stevenbritton.com/2010/09/04/sun-of-fox-news/
“There are also a number of rather odd claims floating around. One involving a lunch meeting in New York between Prime Minister Stephen Harper, News Corp Chairman Rupert Murdoch, and Head of Fox News, Roger Ailes. The details of this meeting were never made public, however conspiracy theorists are agog with accusations of secret plans between the three to establish some kind of conservative news agency.
Of course, it’s all supposition and innuendo. Nobody knows what was discussed at this meeting. I personally expect it involved a discussion of how Fox News was able to be so successful. Harper’s then-communications director, Kory Tenyke was also at the meeting. Six months later, Tenyke left the PMO to join Quebecor, owner of Sun Media. Tenyke is responsible for launching Sun TV.
Quebecor and News Corp are totally separate companies operating in totally separate countries, so why someone would think there were some secret plans hatched at this meeting between Harper, Tenyke, and Quebecor is beyond me.”
I don’t know the above-named Steve Britton — first time I happened upon his blog — but he voices a lot of what I’m thinking about the “secret” meeting between PM Harper and Murdoch.
And because I’ve been wandering around trying to find info. about how “secret” the PM’s lunch meeting with Murdoch was … I neglected to read this Persichilli column:
“Persichilli: Flipping burgers is not a leadership skill” where Mr. Persichilli writes:
” … So, again, why are the spin masters around Ignatieff so happy now? I got my answer when I remembered the comment of a Liberal strategist a few years ago when he realized that a rally with his leader was a flop. He said that “only 200 people attended and the room was half empty. Next time, we have to do better.”
I asked about his strategy, and the answer was shockingly simple: “We’ll have the next event in a room that will accommodate only 150 people. Some media don’t count the number of people, they only see if the room is full or not.”
BTW, the PM drew about a 1000 people to a BBQ in the Liberal bastion of the West Island (Montreal).
If the meeting was secret how do these people know about it.
Inventing a secret meeting and then deciding what might have taken place at said secret meeting, makes for a lot of opportunity to try and sell the lies to the public.
The cbc has also made reference to this secret meeting, and spun it. But, they then refuse to release secret documents re their “sources” for stories. Wonder how many of those stories come from gossip around the water cooler from other gossipers in the employ of the cbc. Like, yesterday, while having lunch a waitress said-
I was going to say, while having my hair done, but female cbcers don’t do that.
Gabby, my understanding of the “secret meeting’ is that it was indeed the one in steve britton’s piece. But as you know the MSM definition of a conspiracy is anytime two or more Conservatives meet.
I see today La Presse is trumpeting “secret briefing notes” goven to the PM in regard to Sun News TV/Fox News North. It seems to me somewhat incredible that any PM would not be briefed on the possible emergence of a new TV news channel, but apparently Mr. Harper should have stuck his head in the sand on this one. I would imagine that there were briefing notes flying around when Al-Jazeera made its application, but it looks very like this will be the new scandal du jour. Interesting comment regarding Desmarais and La Presse, etc. I don’t think that information is widely known in ROC.
Isn’t everything the media or the Liberals aren’t in on “secret”?
“Sources say” is code for gossip, lies and innuendo.
What happens to book sales when a title or author has been banned or censured.
Is there someplace that those of us who are prepared to pay for SunTV, to send a message to, with our name and e-mail, so they could follow up to make sure snagalfus or some such character does not sign.
What are the cbc and others afraid of, that Canadians will learn for positive that they have been slanting the news for years.
I found one line in one of Avaaz petitions or articles very funny, Canadians do not need to fund a propaganda news channel. Was he talking about the cbc.
New Quebec Tea Party’s connection to Sun TV (Quebecor),
this must send the Libluvin media (and Donolo) into full panic mode.
”…In launching this week their Réseau Liberté-Québec (RLQ) — the Quebec Freedom Network — Duhaime and five other founders assure they’re not building a new party but rather promoting values they say are sorely under-represented here.
Eric Duhaime is currently a political consultant and columnist for Quebecor’s papers.
The strategy is to build a critical mass of people on the ground promoting conservative ideas and candidates.
The first step for the nascent RLQ is to organize a conference, set for Oct. 23 in Quebec City, to showcase those people and ideas, and attract more adherents….”
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/856919–quebec-s-tea-party-is-born
comment copied from BC Blue re Kady
People; Ms. O’Malley is the daughter of LONG time NDP fart catcher Peter O’Malley and was at one time Ed Broadbent’s Chief of Staff.
Why does no one know this?
Hope the commenter doesn’t mind but that is interesting info.
A question for bloggers, how many hits/hour could a site handle. I am sure the networks and others have large capabilities, but wondering about a petition site. Could one handle over 10,000 hits/hour for 12 hours straight, plus respond to all hits with verification. Avaaz says they got 131,000 signatures in 12 hours, is that possible.
And if you give each signer about 2 minutes to get to the site, fill in the info and submit, then the time for a reply, that is a lot of action in the 288 hours in 12 days.
Avaaz says they got 131,000 signatures in 12 hours, is that possible.
Mary T, they are only showing around 69,000 on their signature counter on the petition site, so your information must be wrong.
Interesting, eh:
Britain received an almost identical number of Sri Lankan refugee applications as Canada — 1,099 compared to Canada’s 1,082
Britain rejected 86.4% of them while
Canada accepted 90.7%
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2010/09/04/15248546.html
MaryT, as usual your sense of humour is priceless: “I was going to say, while having my hair done, but female cbcers don’t do that.”
But, to be fair, Suhana Meharchand, Anne-Marie Mediwake, Heather Hiscox, and Nancy Wilson look like they have a good relationship with their hairdressers.
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Liz J & Jad, you’re right, anytime two or more Conservatives get together the MSM portrays it as a “secret” meeting, hatching some plot or conspiracy.
My point in trying to find that picture I mentioned above — somehow I see it in my mind’s eye as an informal cup of coffee in a coffee shop at some New York landmark, like Grand Central Station. Did i dream it or what?
And my whole point of it is: an innocuous courtesy meeting that (maybe ?) took place some months ago is now being torqued into a plot between PM Harper and Rupert Murdoch to control the Canadian media, via Sun TV!
I got that number from one of his articles, posted at the NDP online site. He also used it on P&P.
That is why I doubted his figures. Impossible.
Did this secret meeting take place during the PM’s trip to NYC and the UN meeting. Remember all the interviews he had and great coverage from Fox.
And to get back to the initial topic of Joanne’s post: “Should Police Chiefs stay neutral in long-gun debate?”
Personally, I believe the police, the military, and government bureaucracy are there to implement the policies any given government, whatever its stripe, has been elected to implement.
I can understand members of those organizations questioning policy if there’s been a breach of the democratic process, but in this case of the gun registry, I don’t think anything like that has taken place, despite what the usual suspects in the anti-Harper gang say.
A private member’s bill has been discussed, voted on, and will be voted on for final passage or rejection. Nothing more democratic than that.
BTW, yesterday I spent a few hours reading the RCMP report on the effectiveness of the gun registry. I confess I stopped at p. 57, because it’s a sleep-inducing document, so I don’t blame the media for not reading it all either. I promise to go back to it, though.
Prior to its release, this “news” and similar ensuing “reports” on THE REPORT stated something like this: http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/08/26/rcmp-report-long-gun-registry-cost-effective-efficient/ :
“The report found that the Canadian Firearms Program is operating efficiently at a cost of $1.1 million to $3.6 million per year, and contains over 40 pages of analysis of the effectiveness of the firearms registry in both urban and rural areas.”
And yet … this is what I read in the ACTUAL report here http://www.scribd.com/doc/36633614/En-Firearms-Evaluation-Report [on page 15]:
Table 2: Direct and Indirect costs incurred by the CFP/RCMP and federal partners in the administration of the CFP.
Actual Past Total Expenditures ’95 to ‘07: 1,106.1 billion $
[direct & indirect costs, the latter being costs incurred by other federal depts & reimbursed by Canada Firearms Program]
Actual Total Expenditures ’07 – ‘08: 63.4 Million $
Actual Total Expenditures ’08 – ‘09: 67.5 Million $
Planned Total Expenditures ’09 – ’10: 76.5 M$
Planned Total Expenditures ’10 – ’11: 76.5 M$
Unfortunately, I’m not tech-savvy enough to be able to upload the entire chart as found in the RCMP report. Maybe when I get to the end of the report, I’ll find the 3$-4$ million cost/per year the media said the registry currently costs.
Gabby @ 1:12 pm – Thanks for taking one for the team there.
Is this where the secret meeting started from, back in Feb 2009, from, where else the cbc
From google.
By Charlie Smith, February 23, 2009
This morning, CBC Radio News reported that Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet with business leaders in New York. The Prime Minister’s Office won’t reveal the identities of these business leaders.
So, where did the cbc get the info the PM was meeting with anyone, let alone secret business leaders.
Could this be one of the sources the cbc refuses to release to the information commissioner.
Read the whole article.
Who is Prime Minister Stephen Harper meeting in New York? Murdoch …
23 Feb 2009 … It’s a pretty straightforward question: “Did Stephen Harper meet with Rupert Murdoch during his recent trip to New York City?” …
http://www.straight.com › News and Views › Blog – Politics – Cached – Similar
Way down this guy says on a hunch re wrote, don’t be surprised if the PM meets with Murdoch ——-
So is all this fuss about a secret meeting based on a hunch someone had in Dec 2008
The ‘super secret meeting’ was set up by Ari Fleischer, ‘according to filings with the U.S. Justice Department’.
‘…Ari Fleischer was hired for a month last spring to help Stephen Harper receive American media exposure in advance of a critical G20 summit in London.
…dinner with Harper in Washington on March 29, 2009, at the invitation of Fleischer.
The guest list included newspaper columnists Charles Krauthammer, David Frum, Peggy Noonan, David Brooks and Anne Applebaum, senior editors Fred Barnes and William Kristol, and conservative syndicated talk-radio host Laura Ingraham.
The following day, Fleischer arranged a lunch meeting between Harper and the president of Fox News Channel, Roger Ailes, and with media mogul Rupert Murdoch, whose News Corp. owns Fox.
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/01/06/harper-fleischer006.html#ixzz0ygKDL1aF
MaryT, I read that article by Charlie Smith you mentioned. I got to it via a Murray Dobbin piece written in June 2010.
So here’s some chronology of the media interest in this story:
• Charlie Smith speculates in Dec. 2008 a possible take-over of CanWest by Australian media-mogul Rupert Murdoch may be in the works.
• Charlie Smith repeats his guesswork in a February 2009 column after CBC reports the PM met with unnamed business leaders in New York.
• Bruce Cheadle writes a Canadian Press story in June 2010, saying “On March 30, 2009, Prime Minister Stephen Harper sat down for lunch in New York with Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes.” Cheadle weaves a timeline for the evolution of Sun News out of that one (photographed ??) meeting.
• Progressive [read anti-Harper] political commentator Murray Dobbin picks up the Cheadle story, with Charlie Smith antecedents.
• Lawrence Martin writes a column (Aug 19/10) entitled “Is Stephen Harper set to move against the CRTC?” where the same Murdoch-Harper connection is mentioned.
• La Presse columnist Malorie Beauchemin writes her column (Sept 4/10) about PM Harper’s “real” interest in Sun News and Norm Spector also speculates in his column “The real deal behind Fox News North” (Sept. 4/10).
So … I commend the media, at least for recycling … something speculated about in 2008, “reported” in February 2009, is picked up again in June 2010 — around the time Sun News became a topic for discussion — and then the June CP “report” is again recycled in Aug./September 2010 columns, supposedly illustrating the Hidden Harper Hand behind Sun News.
SIGH!!!
I hope the media is into recycling their bottles and tin cans like they are with newspaper stories.
Wilson, thanks for that link to CBC about Ari Fleischer’s consultation services.
Proof that CBC is sometimes useful, eh?
If it was a “secret” meeting, as it’s now being portrayed, why did the CBC report on it in January 2010?
In my usual very long-winding road way, that has been my point all along. And you, in your inimitable style, immediately cut to the chase!
With their ability to pick up on breaking news, soon Kady will blog, Iggy annointed leader of liberal party, and he has got to the top without any grass root liberal ever casting a vote.
Hope she mentions that he was also annointed a candidate, after kicking out a black female sitting mp in Ontario.
Gabby, Mary T, wilson… et all
Further to ‘the secret meeting’, I also recall the Prime Minister talking about that luncheon, the guests,i.e attendees during one of his American interviews. Likely the one on Fox….
It certainly wasn’t a big deal when he talked about it and in fact it would be my observation that he was speaking very freely and enjoyed his experience.
By the way everyone, what a great thread and the comments are exceptional…wow!
Joanne I sent you an email that might interest you.
You notice how the media come alive just to write about the PM but fall dead- asleep- ignorant when the liberals are around.
Joanne, since you seemed to appreciate my “taking one for the team” by reading the RCMP report on the gun registry, here’s what I read on page 55:
“There are, however, mixed feelings from police officers about the Firearm Registry. Some say ‘any tool is better than no tool’ and others ‘they always presume there is a firearm present, so therefore the Registry is irrelevant’. Before entering a dwelling some officers therefore, might not use the registry. The perception that the registry contains incomplete information was cause for concern among some officers interviewed, who felt they could not depend on the registry to give them an accurate insight as to whether or not there were firearms present in a dwelling. This is due to the issue that firearms may not have been registered by a firearm user, or for instance, if a firearm was procured specifically to undertake illegal activities. …”
So, the question about the reliability of the registry is not just an illusion created by anti-registry people like that police officer in Edmonton who conducted an online survey among fellow officers.
BTW, the pro-registry crowd likes to point out that survey is an “unscientific survey” — but the anti-Harper & anti-Sun News Avaaz petition is solid & credible, eh?
Gabby @ 4:50 pm – This is the thing that puzzles me. If a police officer checks the registry and sees that no guns have been registered, would they therefore assume no guns in the dwelling upon entering? I doubt it. If they did then it would be worse having the registry if they rely on it so completely and it would give them a false sense of security.
And if a gun is registered will they assume that once they have it there are no others? Again they would be stupid if they did.
This is looking more and more like a massive con job. What are the police getting out of it? Couldn’t the money be better spent elsewhere?
o/t
another Brian Lilley (Sun TV) report
”..Canada’s immigration minister, Jason Kenney, will be at the meeting, along with representatives from France, Britain, Italy, Germany and the U.S.
The agenda will deal with illegal immigration, border security, human smuggling and refugees…’
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2010/09/05/15253336.html
PMSH hired 2 American consultants to arrange meetings/interviews to open doors for Canada,
one Democrat and one Republican.
Funny how we hear nothing about the meetings set up for PMSH by the Democrat, eh.
“…Michael McCurry is a veteran political strategist and spokesperson. He was press secretary for former U.S. President Bill Clinton from 1994 to 1998.
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Ari Fleischer was a press secretary for former President George W. Bush. New York-based, he left that position in 2003
http://www.suite101.com/content/stephen-harper-and-washington-lobbyists-a111169
BC Blue has a new post up re Soros and his connections to our great Iggy. Too many links to post here so go read it. Seems Soros funds or funded some group Iggy was involved with.
Wonder if that is where the “donation to some project while at Harvard” come from. Remember how his great supporter was involved, and is out on tv every chance to defend him. Can’t remember his name. But the guy was going to be dismissed and Iggy vouched for him and the donation.
Bet the media will not cover those links of Iggy/Soros.
Gabby, do you mind if I re post your Page 57 info on NBtorys page I support PMSH.
MaryT at 5:25 pm, sorry for the delay in replying . I was away from the computer.
No, I don’t mind at all if you re-post what I read in the RCMP report. It was on page 55, from this website:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36633614/En-Firearms-Evaluation-Report
Mary T @ 5:26 pm
Thanks for the ‘BC Blue’ heads up! What a disturbing mess that is turning out to be. Some of it I was aware of but this guy just gets creepier and creepier!
Mary T, I think you mean Amir Attaran, the cheerleader for the Afghan detainee issue. He worked for Ignatieff at Harvard, there was some alleged problem over funding his position, and Ignatieff allegedly came up with the money but refused to disclose its source.
Fire. Them. All.
Hire. No. More.
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“Hundreds of federal employees remain in limbo
OTTAWA — Hundreds of federal compensation advisers in Ottawa are braced to see if the government will abolish their jobs and recruit new employees after consolidating their work at a new $300-million pay centre in Miramichi, N.B.”
http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Hundreds+federal+employees+remain+limbo/3485551/story.html
RE:Wilson and Gabby’s comments on the super duper secrative meeting, with the evil Fox news.
John Ivison was actually the first person to report on this..
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=2255247
The jist of this article will explain a overlooked view of why the media is really gunning for PM Harper. If PM Harper opens up the media market for foreign investment, company’s like Rogers(macleans)CTV/Globemedia(which tostar owns 20 percent, and just took over Canadian Press), are in some trouble.
The latest from QMI/David Akin
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2010/09/05/15255096.html
The federal government intends to tackle human smuggling and trafficking as one of its first orders of business when Parliament resumes later this month, QMI Agency has learned….
The government could also take the politically risky gamble of invoking the “notwithstanding clause” in the Constitution in order to give itself the legal authority to intercept suspected migrant ships before they arrive in Canadian waters or, alternately, to detain refugees who arrive in Canada on ships like the Sun Sea.
Canadian law currently requires that all those claiming refugee status cannot be held or detained while their claim is being processed unless they are known criminals
JDot at 7:34 pm, the information you provided adds a new wrinkle to the issue of Sun TV.
If I understand Ivison’s article, that means that broadcasting ownership would be open to all and sundry. I personally would not view that favourably, for two reasons:
• I believe there is indeed a need to protect Canadian culture, so national interests must not be sacrificed in the name of free market competition.
• If the door is opened to any foreign media co. that comes shopping for Canadian companies to gobble up, that means powerful foreign media which may not be necessarily representative of Canadian values can set up business here in Canada. I oppose that.
There’s far too many channels already, as far as I’m concerned, that tend to ghettoize newcomers to this land, facilitating & maintaining their links with the old country, rather than encouraging their forging new ties with their adopted country.
“• I believe there is indeed a need to protect Canadian culture, so national interests must not be sacrificed in the name of free market competition.”
I agree Gabby. But that’s what the CBC is supposed to be about. Canadian culture and national interests. Sadly, it’s been hijacked by left-leaning political parties who use and abuse it at taxpayer expense to fulfill their own agenda.
The topic of this post is a perfect example, the long-gun registry. I don’t remember seeing any balance by the CBC, pointing out all the groups favoring scrapping the registry. The rank and file officer’s poll was dismissed as a straw poll. Many of our largest companies have been purchased by International interests, beer manufacturing and steel are two good examples.
Just catching up here. I was out at a corn roast. Yum!!
“But that’s what the CBC is supposed to be about. Canadian culture and national interests”
Indeed! A network that salivated continuously for an American Presidential candidate named Obama and allowed a vile and hideous piece of hate, penned by a cranky feminist about a Vice Presidential candidate.
They then continued with their love-in after the election in the US while ignoring the impressive achievements of a Canadian PM, walking an economic tightrope.
There is NO Canadian content anymore. Unless of course propaganda and cranky gossip editorials are considered, “Canadian content”.
This post has been picked up by JNW.
Oh I missed that earlier, Mary T. Thanks.
Paulsstuff at 9:23 pm:
“But that’s what the CBC is supposed to be about. Canadian culture and national interests. Sadly, it’s been hijacked by left-leaning political parties who use and abuse it at taxpayer expense to fulfill their own agenda.”
True, but would allowing more foreign interests into Canada improve the CBC at all or help protect Canadian culture? I don’t think so. Truly Canadian broadcasters, be they Global, CTV or the planned Sun TV NEWS, should be able to represent/reflect the varying POVs in Canadian society.
Despite everything that’s wrong with the CBC, I think it still serves a purpose. Maybe one day some government will have the courage to decrease the taxpayer funding given to the CBC so that it can start getting donations from viewers, like PBS does. Either that or change all channels currently available on the basic cable grid to a pay-per-view format. I don’t know enough about what problems that would entail, though.
“Maybe one day some government will have the courage to decrease the taxpayer funding given to the CBC so that it can start getting donations from viewers, like PBS does.”
Excellant point. If CBC had it’s funding decreased and was allowed to get donations to top up it’s budget it would be forced to be balanced and unbiased to appeal to all Canadian’s. As it stands now, it knows it will get that billion every year regardless of it’s partisan nature.
Joanne at 10:26 pm, that passage I quoted from the RCMP report simply highlights the lack of logic in the argument that merely registering guns will necessarily prevent crimes.
As I wrote on Aug. 23 under a Postmedia article:
Rather than argue about whether a specific survey is “scientific” or not, both sides need to convince Canadians:
• how the public will be protected from criminals who do not bother to register their long guns.
• how the mere fact of registering or having a permit for a firearm will prevent crimes.
Marc Lépine (aka Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi), the perpetrator of the Montreal massacre lawfully obtained a permit.
“In August 1989, Lépine picked up an application for a firearms-acquisition certificate and he received his permit in mid-October.” [Wiki]
Did having a permit prevent that crime? No. Would the gun registry have prevented that crime? No.
Likewise, “Kimveer Gill did in fact have a restricted-class PAL and his weapons were registered with the Canadian gun registry.” [Wiki]
And the Mayerthorpe incident? “At the time of the incident he [James Roszko, the perpetrator] was prohibited from legally possessing firearms.” Did that prohibition prevent Roszko from obtaining those firearms? No.
I’m sure there must even be a small # of cases of police officers committing gun crimes or suicide, be it with hand guns or long guns. Surely all their guns are registered?
Gabby – All excellent points. I would love to have a police chief respond to them.
And there’s another interesting angle to the RCMP report, found in Appendix B on pages 142-143:
“* Appendix B [page 142 - 143]
The Firearms Funding Program (for Opt-in Provinces)
The provincial jurisdictions that are currently administering the licensing elements of the CFP on their own (i.e., are an “opt-in” jurisdiction) include Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Ontario, and Quebec. These provinces are funded by the federal government in accordance with contribution agreements entered into with CFP. The contribution agreement is the vehicle through which the “opt-in” provinces receive funding and certain services and functions from the Government of Canada. Both the agreement and, in particular, the Service Delivery Model (SDM) help to ensure provincial consistency in the services provided via the Firearms Funding Program.
The contribution agreement stipulates that the total contribution to a province is calculated based on: a) agreed-to administrative costs [footnote #78]; and b) the payment for costs associated with delivery of services defined within the SDM, based on the actual product volumes (i.e., an activity based costing methodology). Any costs that “opt-in” provinces incur ‘outside’ of the Agreement that have not been agreed to by the CFP, are to be borne by the province. Table 1 outlines contribution payments made to opt-in provinces since 1998-1999.”
I would have to double-check, but isn’t the gun registry supported more in those provinces that receive federal funding for the administrative costs, and less so in provinces that absorb their own administrative costs — by choice, i.e. “opt-in or opt-out”?
So does the pro- or anti-registry stance ultimately depend on funding? Or is it simply because of the urban/rural divide?
Gabby @ 11:10 pm – Fascinating. Thanks.
Follow the money.
Oh be still my heart, Bobby His Blondness Fife is back on CTV News, the thrill of seeing him was overwhelming … so, time for me to leave — anyway, I’ve done about a week’s worth of talking here. ‘Til the next time.
More left-liberal bullsh*t from the left-liberal MSM.
Down with left-liberal Ziffy Liberal bullsh*t.
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“Carson expected to show ‘softer side’ as PM’s chief of staff
Tories expect a softer side from PM Stephen Harper as Guy Giorno prepares to leave the Prime Minister’s Office.”
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/page/view/carson-09-06-2010
Liberals throw Ziffy from the bus … a kissoff.
“”They can’t win.”
“The Liberal insider, who did not want to be identified, told The Hill Times that whatever benefits accrued as a result of what Liberals are calling a successful summer tour, will only be cemented if he performs better in the House.
“They can’t win. If you go province-by-province and riding-by-riding, what does it give you? I know the spin will be that the cross-country tour elevated Iggy, and the long-gun and census stuff pulled Harper down, so now we’re tied. But when the crunch comes and people are going to vote, I don’t think—whether they had to fill in a long-form census or not—I don’t think it’s going to be a serious factor,” said the source.”
At the end of the groaner is this:
“In the first six months of this year, the Conservatives raised a combined $8-million, while the Liberals gleaned only $3-million.”
The conclusion?
Watch for this:
>>> “Elections Canada will release third-quarter party fundraising results after the end of October, including the Liberal summer bus tour period.”
Prediction? Liberal Ziffy’s bus/collection plate tour a bust.
Liberal Ignatieff: “Just Visiting”.
Go home, Ziffy.
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/page/view/fallelection-09-06-2010
Link for Liberal Ziffy’s Faded Rose/Last Rose of Summer Busted Tour.
Update: Liberal Ziffy’s O’Harvard buddy.
O’Hangman.
“and then they felt like he kind of hung them out to dry.”
“Not only are they running away from President Obama, they’re running away from being Democrats in some cases.”
Dr. Sam* foretold O’narcissist’s “sole legacy”.
“*This is his [O's] sole legacy: a massive post-traumatic stress disorder.”
http://www.globalpolitician.com/25109-barack-obama-elections
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“Analysts: White House Panicking Over Elections
Say Dems Are Distancing Themselves From Obama, Angry Over Economy, Health Care Fallout”
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“(CBS) With many polls indicating the Republicans may win back control of the House of Representatives (and possibly the Senate as well) in the upcoming mid-term elections, Jim VandeHei, the executive editor of Politico, told CBS’ “Face the Nation” that the Obama administration is in a horrible position.
“Does the White House understand this?” asked guest host Harry Smith. “Do you feel any sense of panic or concern” on the part of the administration?
“They get it. There’s panic. There’s concern,” VandeHei said. “The reality for this administration stinks, politically and practically, when it comes to the economy. You’re not going to be able to change that 9.6-percent unemployment figure. You can’t get anything from Congress in the next couple of months.”
CBS Congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes said the Democrats are distancing themselves from President Obama.
“Not only are they running away from President Obama, they’re running away from being Democrats in some cases. In some races you actually see the Democratic candidates not really mentioning that they’re a Democrat in their campaign ads,” Cordes said.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/05/ftn/main6837589.shtml
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/014804.html
Maz2 @ 7:32 am – Wow! Quite the report about Obamassiah. And from CBS no less!!
Oh, yes, all’s right with our world, Blondie Fife has returned from his off time or whatever, heard him on the radio waves, don’t know the state of his blondness whether it’s strawberry blond or yellow/gray.
“Liberal brand is past it’s best before date”, so says Monte Solberg in the Ottawa Sun today.
Maybe the Cons and those in the PM’s Office should realise that the Chiefs of Police aren’t entering the political forum, but providing the government with expert advice that civi servants are hired to provide their political masters. They are the experts when it comes to law enforcement, and they believe the registry helps them do their jobs. Naturally, evidence and expert advice have no place with this Conservative government, all they do is attack and smeer anyone who doesn’t follow their ideological agenda.