In a recent column Lorrie Goldstein posited that the reason so many in Canadian MSM ignore climategate and associated flaws that are now bubbling to the surface, is because those journalists have invested so much into the subject that they are afraid of losing face:
…Why have Canadian media largely ignored this growing controversy? Perhaps the best answer is embarrassment. Having shilled for warmist hysteria for so long, having dismissed any questioning of man-made climate change orthodoxy as equivalent to Holocaust denial, they don’t know how to climb down, or cope with the tidal wave (pardon the pun) of controversy now hitting climate science all over the world…
That may be true, but I do sense a change in the wind of the climate change debate. Almost every day now we are seeing dribbles from media reluctantly leaking the steady barrage of errors in the science.
So do we abandon the whole thing? Chock it up to a huge scam?
Or how about taking a sensible approach regarding the environment? How about getting back to the basics of trying to clean up our air and water so that we can enjoy the outdoors again during our all-too-short summers in Canada?
Even Scott Brison admits that ‘the discussion has shifted from environmental responsibility to the biggest economic opportunity of the 21st century.’
Maybe so, but let’s focus that green energy market opportunity on cleaning up pollution. That would have an immediate impact, as well as benefiting future generations. If Canadians can come up with cutting-edge technology, so much the better.
Do I have a consensus?
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Update
Global Warming And Journalists – NCTimes.com Blogs:
…The bolded part is most revealing. Nisbet is cautioning global warming activists and their allies in the media to avoid being tied down to specific predictions vulnerable to being proven false or exaggerated. Instead, Nisbet suggests journalists writing stories that focus on general statements that are harder to falsify. So when you start seeing stories about the public health dangers of global warming, you’ll know the “framing science” PR angle behind it.
Journalists who follow the “framing science” path had better beware that much of the public will object to this as manipulation, attempting to motivate them by fear instead of objectively discussing the facts. Contempt for the public is a sure path to extinction.
Well, let’s hope so.
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Friday Update
Green Quebec government looking for oil sands investors – QMI
Excellent post, Joanne. Too often the issue of just plain old ‘polluted air reduction’ has got lost in the hype surrounding Climate Change.
However, I still do believe the climate is changing, and that everyone has a responsibility to take steps to avoid possible disastrous consequences in the years to come. To do nothing is not an option. We can’t just take the chance that mankind’s inaction regarding climate change will have no negative impact on our children and their children and their children …
Mankind must takes steps now! Yes, we must also learn to adapt as the climate changes, but we need to marshal all the world’s ‘expert’ resources in this field eg. David Suzuki, and come up with a plan to help warm the planet … cuz my furnace just won’t stop running. Man, we’re feakin freezing up here in the Great White North.
I echo Dave Joanne – really good, positive post with easy-to-do solutions.
Re: David Suzuki – Unfortunately Dave, I no longer hold Suzuki up on some “expert” platform. I’ve stopped buying the “Progressive” brand of vitamins and supplements because a portion of the cost goes to his foundation. I find him crude these days and as much of an opportunist as some other environuts that have taken their cause to the extreme.
And to think that MacLean’s actually had Suzuki as a consideration on a poll to pick him as the person who lights the Olympic torch. I now see how funny that idea is. I mean how much of a carbon footprint will that baby(the torch) emit. I’d be more worried that Suzuki would try to put the flame out.
Joanne; good article, yes it is true the main stream media has for years shilled for the Man Made Global Warming the world is going to end crowd.Unfortunately their is a big difference between Climate Change,Man Made Global Warming and Pollution. Climate Change is happening all the time both day and night and it is NOT affected at all by anything we do. Man Made Global Warming is an out right lie and a hoax and should be treated as such. Pollution is something we can and should clean up and is Man Made. Getting David Suzuki involved would only give him another soapbox to stand on and tell us all what to do according to David Suzuki. When he jumped in the Man Made Global Warming band wagon and then was selling CFL light bulbs he completely erased any credibility and respect he had in the science community ,and in a lot of peoples minds as well.. Steve
right on great Blog
Joanne you might be interested in reading Elaine Dewar
book Cloak of Green
fh
The MSM is cracking open the Big Egg AGW Fraud and its Rotten Iggy-Heads.
What a stink! from the AGW Humpty Dumpty.
The Hope of AGWFraud is nothing but Fear; fear of the future. The Fear instilled in the AGW audience, us, is used as a lever to gain Power (Hello Libsocialist Bob Rae)/control over society.
Once the Fear is swallowed, the Red-Greens trumpet their Solution: Taxation, Coercion through rules, regulations, fines, imprisonment, political correctness, etc., DayCare to indoctrinate children, Abortion to terrorize, Human Rights, etc.
When this is combined with socialism and the One, we are on the path to GULAG.
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“Eric Reguly
The fear and farce of climate-change science
One embattled scientist admits suicidal thoughts as another pens sex-laden novel
Tragedy and comedy have entered the climate change stage hand in hand.
The tragic figure is Professor Phil Jones, the 57-year-old scientist at the heart of the climate change e-mail scandal. In an interview with London’s Sunday Times newspaper, he said he contemplated suicide just before the start of December’s Copenhagen climate change summit, when skeptics were emboldened by the publication of hacked e-mails from the influential climatic research unit he led. “There were death threats,” he said. “People said I should go and kill myself. They said they knew where I lived. I did think about it, yes. About suicide.”
The comic figure is Rajendra Pachauri, the 69-year-old chairman of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. His fight to save his career over a faulty IPCC report about melting glaciers did not prevent him from publishing a novel – his first – that drips with sex and romance.
With climate change science already under fire, neither of these developments will help shore up credibility.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/the-fear-and-farce-of-climate-change-science/article1459355/
Dave, I’m not sure how to take your post.
You talk about cleaning up pollution (always admirable and I agree whole-heartedly) but then you go on to suggest that global warming (climate change) is real and we should do something for the sake of our children. Then you seem to go into sarc mode (I think?) and suggest David Suzuki is an excellent resource to help us ‘warm up’ the planet.
There’s three different points of view there.
First of all, let’s call a spade a spade.
This ‘problem’ was referred to as Global Warming by all the hysterics when the UN’s Maurice Strong and his cabal first started shrieking about this but they changed it to Climate Change when they realized that the temperature has been constant for the past ten years.
Sorry boys but you don’t get to change the title of the game you’ve put into motion simply because it flies in the face of your argument that rising temperatures are causing glaciers to melt and coastal regions world wide will be flooded as a result.
Remember the scene in the Gore film that showed New York City and most of Florida underwater?
Not going to happen.
I agree that pollution is a problem and I like the fact that we’re going green but let’s pull back on the reins here.
Ontario has already entered into an agreement with a South Korean company to build very expensive wind farms that will see the cost of my energy rise to a completely unacceptable level.
Quebec has jumped the gun with an absurd $5,000 tax on cars that don’t meet their new emission standards resulting in chaos in the automobile industry there.
BC is taxing everything in the name of Green and is pissing everybody off royally.
What we’re witnessing here is an extreme case of government greed. We’ve got a bit of money left over in our pockets and they want it.
I hate to sound like a harper (pun intended) but the PM has to come out of the closet soon and (politely) ask for a full debate of the science behind Global Warming and he has to do it fast before McSquinty et al mortgage my children’s future in the name of Green.
THAT would get the MSM paying attention.
He doesn’t have to say he doesn’t believe in Global Warming (and we all know, or thought we knew, that he doesn’t) but there has to be a discussion.
Dave…the climate has “changed” for eons.
We used to live in a rainforest – and we used to be covered with metres of ice – many times over.
Climate constantly changes, Dave….
I have lived through many of the so called “doomsday” predictions….all of which have fallen by the wayside as the next generation climbs aboard the newest religion.
Yes, we should all pollute less, we should take care of our forests and our waterways. But to think that the “climate” is somehow to blame for these problems means that they will never be solved because the climate is always “changing”.
Mankind can throw money, capture carbon, pay feel good “carbon credits” – but unless we deal with the real problems, the climate will continue to change and nothing will be solved.
I’m not going anywhere with Dr. Fruit Fly! He does not have our best interests at heart.
That doesn’t mean that I support pollution. No Way. Let’s do something about real pollution. CO2 is not pollution. CO2 is the boogey man of the AGW scam propagated by alarmists like the misanthropic bug doctor.
The media silence on Climategate sent shivers down my spine. In the early days, even had it turned out to be nothing, it still should have been reported as an occurrence and investigated. That always led me to believe that money and investments had to be somewhere in the mix.
A network that was relentless in it’s pursuit of investigating and smearing former PM Mulroney was pathetically silent.
Knowing the deep investment that the Ontario and Quebec governments have made in controlling their citizens lives and carbon footprint and in comparison the information now surfacing about BBC having their pensions closely linked to the carbon trading market, I think it may be safe to conclude, the silence had a self serving purpose.
Where is the pension investment?
http://climateresearchnews.com/2010/02/bbc-pension-funds-linked-to-climate-policy/
We also cannot dismiss, if anything was about to make the Conservative govt’s baby steps look justified, they would NEVER put themselves in a position to acknowledge that reality as having been, correctly initiated.
It is always a hoot reading a Liberal Scot Brison praise the Communist form of government and their ability to impose change. Makes perfect sense.
AGW has not been proven, and a large number of people who have been preaching this new religion has renamed it climate change. Sorry.
Without Full Disclosure of your models and data to skeptics on your desire to TAX us for “greening us” through Carbon Credits and exemptions for your favoured industries or friends has NOTHING to do with science or the environment.
It has always been about scaring people to open their wallets and allow their freedoms restricted.
Ontario entered into a SECRET deal for $ 7 Billion providing South Korea with enough incentives to guarantee a market. Who is going to pay?
If we can’t show the political will to collect our taxes on smokes, enforce the Rule of Law in Caledonia, the payoff for the couple, what gives anyone confidence going forward in Ontario?
Oh and for the provinces that may be forced to survive on only wind energy someday……be sure to stock up on carbon emitting wood just in case you have non functioning windmills like Minnesota..haha what a riot!!
http://www.alien-earth.org/forum/message.php?message=61083&mpage=1&showdate=2/1/10
Clean up our habits by all means…but I agree with Sandy, but I will put it another way…”let nature take it’s course” and it is following it as it should…we were not around to gauge how it is now…to when it was….the only thing in our control is making mother nature’s cycles as easy as possible on her….less gas emissions, less smoke from smoke stacks, businesses have to evaluate how they get their product out by the cleanest means and fix their process. Recycle. Join a recycle group that lets you advertise what you have that you do not need anymore, and the one who wants it comes to get it…a neat way of recycling …and it’s free. Pick up the doggies poopies even
, use vinegar and less harsh cleaning agents, get back to nature in our habits. Plant trees. We need them. They like C02.
OT– I am on warfarin because of a blood clot scare a few months ago. I would very much like to not take the poison that it is…am wondering what natural substance I could take that would do the same thing these pills do.
That is the question. I put that out there because I am thinking of the drugs we all take that we should not really take. People have their counters full of prescriptions. How did doctoring get this bad…. oh well this is another whole topic.
onward and upward…and over and out.
But…….
The warfarin saved my life. It’s a tough one eh.
Michael Coren had Dr. Tim Ball on as a guest on Feb. 2 (H/T NeilD)
http://www.ctstv.com/ontario/player.php?show=Michael%20Coren%20Show
Listening to Dr. Ball, my sometimes conspiracy-prone ears were pricked up when Dr. Ball mentioned the Club of Rome (see Wiki) and Elaine Dewar, writer of a book called Cloak of Green (available online).
The Green movement seems more and more a socio-economic movement than a strictly environmental movement. The fact China has become “the largest maker of wind turbines in the world” is evidence of that.
I’ve always been of the mind that we human beings do have to take care of our environment. Individuals can reuse and recycle; farmers replenish and rotate the use of their land; industries make sure that waste materials they produce are not emptied untreated into the environment, etc.
And of course, innovation, like developing alternate forms of clean energy, should be pursued – but the kind of zealotry displayed by some proponents against existing industries is highly questionable. Are they pushing those alternate sources of energy because of their concern for the environment or because of the financial windfall they see down the line – for themselves?
Cleaning up pollution? By all means. The sad fact is, all this AGW/climate change nonsense has diverted attention and spending, both corporate and governmental, away from pollution control.
And all should remember that indeed Harper’s initial attempts to focus on pollution were derided by the AGW cultists, particularly within the MSM and Liberals, who screamed bloody murder that global warming was much more important.
I defer to Peter Foster’s column in today’s NP.
But government R&D invariably winds up with dead-end technologies promoted by rent seekers. It also tends to crowd out private research. “Alternatives” will come, but not on any government schedule. Governments can’t lead us to high-tech promised lands because they have no idea in which direction those lands exist. They are countries of the mind.
Precisely!
Meanwhile, Californians are fed up with all of this global warming/climate change nonsense. They want an end to global warming laws enacted in 2006 that are threatening to literally bankrupt the state.
Climate change is cyclical, always was, always will be. Pretending we, mankind, can somehow alter this reality is dealing in fantasies…which, as we all know, is what the Liberal Left does best.
Concentrate on our own back yard and “showcase” our clean environment to the world. Forget about carbon credits and give credit to those who renew, reuse, recycle.
I have no problem with taking care of our environment. God infact instructed us to do so but the AGW stuff is just a bunch of crap.
I like others here feel that we do have real environmental problems like the the real pollution such as sulfur dioxide etc. also our water and our soil needs caring for too. Let’s concentrate on that, hey?
Thinking back to my science days at school I’m pretty sure that we learned that “climate” is stable and the longer result from “weather” “Weather” changes every day.
I wonder what they’re teaching kids these day?
If the true believers of AGW want to do something positive for the planet and all living things, just stop exhaling.
Glo-Bull Warming is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated in human history.
Maurice Strong, Al Gore, David Suzuki, the IPCC and all of the manipulative, so called, scientists will go down history, way, way down.
I wonder how the Canada Revenue Service investigation is going into the charitable status of the David Suzuki Foundation?
Greenpeace Canada was stripped of charitable status when Chretien was PM and the Lieberals were stealing taxpayer dollars through ADSCAM.
I agree with the quest to curb pollution.
I have a relative who teaches school in Eleuthra in the Bahamas. The school is self-contained. They use solar energy, grown their own food, process their water, use old cooking oil from cruise ships to generate fuel that powers their vehicles. The school’s focus is to teach students how to be self-sufficient and immerses students in ocean conservation. Robert Bateman’s son works there too, or used to. It’s called The Island School.
Yet every day you can stand on one of those beaches and pick up litter thrown off cruise ships. From diapers, to plastic, to party balloons.
More locally for me, we can try and curb our pollution as much as we want but even way up here now on a nice summer day we get Midwestern USA crappy air from their factories.
From March 2009;
Shell dumps wind, solar and hydro power in favour of biofuels
Shell will no longer invest in renewable technologies such as wind, solar and hydro power because they are not economic, the Anglo-Dutch oil company said today. It plans to invest more in biofuels which environmental groups blame for driving up food prices and deforestation.
Executives at its annual strategy presentation said Shell, already the world’s largest buyer and blender of crop-based biofuels, would also invest an unspecified amount in developing a new generation of biofuels which do not use food-based crops and are less harmful to the environment.
The company said it would concentrate on developing other cleaner ways of using fossil fuels, such as carbon capture and sequestration (CCS) technology. It hoped to use CCS to reduce emissions from Shell’s controversial and energy-intensive oil sands projects in northern Canada.
The company said that many alternative technologies did not offer attractive investment opportunities. Linda Cook, Shell’s executive director of gas and power, said: “If there aren’t investment opportunities which compete with other projects we won’t put money into it. We are businessmen and women. If there were renewables [which made money] we would put money into it.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/mar/17/royaldutchshell-energy
Al Gore’s Weather (AGW): Ah love O’snOw-bull “Monster” markets “along with wicked winds”.
P.S. Gorebull is heading to a TO near you.
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“Mid-Atlantic Scrambles as Another Monster Snowstorm Approaches
A foot or more of snow is forecast for D.C. and as many as 18 inches for Philadelphia — which could cause travel problems as far north as Boston. Some areas are already under nearly 3 feet of snow.”
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2010/02/08/scores-given-day-dig-historic-snowstorm/?test=latestnews
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013311.html
Just catching up here. My in-house assistant was helping out with comment approval.
BTW I’m quite certain that Dave’s comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.
Climate Change is happening all the time both day and night and it is NOT affected at all by anything we do. Man Made Global Warming is an out right lie and a hoax and should be treated as such. Pollution is something we can and should clean up and is Man Made.
Steve, yes. I should have made that distinction. Thanks.
Listening to Dr. Ball, my sometimes conspiracy-prone ears were pricked up when Dr. Ball mentioned the Club of Rome (see Wiki) and Elaine Dewar, writer of a book called Cloak of Green (available online).
Fh mentioned Cloak of Green too. Sound like a must-read. Thanks for the tip, Gabby & Fh.
I had to step out after posting my earlier comment (1st on this thread btw, woot) … so just back and catching up … I must admit I am pretty amused at the initial reaction it got. It’s interesting that ‘hot button’ topics like this one cause folks to jump to conclusions and maybe ‘read into’ what someone is saying rather than focus on the actual words as written.
Neil, not to pick on you, but if you read my second paragraph carefully, no where do I mention “global warming” … just climate change.
Of course by mentioning that we ‘must do something’ I was leading the reader down the road that the alarmists and activists preach; however, the twist is on the 9th word after ‘Suzuki’, that I intentionally left low key (ie no CAPS or Bolding. so I’m sayin lets ‘warm’ the planet (not cool it).
As for Suzuki, I had to mention him, since we all know that in the 70s, his thing was warning the world about the next Ice Age coming soon to a country near you. Maybe he shouldn’t have changed horses so soon.
So yes Joanne, tongue in cheek all the way.
Take a look at the latest hypocrisy from Quebec on this issue.
First, Minister Prentice gave a speech in Calgary talking about the folly of attempting to go it alone by Quebec in its new auto emission standards, which the federal environment minister described as “unique” in North America.”
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/l_ian_macdonald/2010/02/04/12742366-qmi.html
Then the Gazette came out and blasted the current Government for its “attitude” to Quebec.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Harper+strange+wooing+Quebec/2519893/story.html
Today Norman Spector sets the record straight quoting Michel Hebert in today’s Journal de Quebec — under the headline “Quebec is giving preferential treatment to obtain SUV’s.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/spector-vision/charests-been-blowing-smoke-on-tailpipe-emissions/article1460996/
“Without knowing it, some 2010 models were not available in Quebec but were sold in Ontario. So, after GM refused to sell large 4 WD vehicles to Hydro Quebec because of the Quebec standards, a quiet agreement was made to exempt the Yukon, Escalade and Savana models from the regulations. ”
I guess Monsieur Vert is not quite so green after all, but this does not of course stop him criticising the federal government.
Incidentally, the Gazette article also points out that “(Charest’s)government quietly announced that the province’s greenhouse-gas emissions actually increased from 2006 to 2007 under the Liberals, putting in doubt Quebec’s ability to meet the objectives in the Kyoto accord that it supports” (emphasis added)
Yes Dave – I was in Grade 10 when Suzuki was high on his theory on the coming Ice Age. In Ontario we could take a course called “Man and His Environment” in high school. That course vanished after a few years when the hysterics died down.
I’m predicting the same thing this time. I cringe at the tax dollars that went into the “greening” of Ontario’s curriculum and the social engineering and indoctrination of kids that that encompasses.
Now we know why PM Harper remained silent at “The Copenhagen crackup”.
PM Harper was there as an observer observing as the “dream killer”, aka reality, killed AGW.
Red-GreenSocialism is a fantasy which is always at our throats and wallets.
If you want to see the face(s) of the socialst fantasy, find/study the together-picture of Liberals Iffy and Dionky; find/study the picture of the commissars of the Separatist Coalition Troika.
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“The Copenhagen crackup was a dream killer in more ways than one. Not only did the breakdown give the lie to the notion that a cranky Texas oilman was the single greatest impediment to international cooperation and enlightened environmental policy; it laid waste to the argument that yoking the developing world to a “do as we say, not as we did” policy of energy consumption will somehow prove to be an economic and environmental “win-win.” If that’s true, the leaders of India and China—the latter of which has been serially praised for its green-energy initiatives by the likes of New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman—certainly don’t believe it. No amount of international do-goodism is going to prevent countries from acting in what they perceive to be their own self-interest.
Obama and the Democrats have been peddling a similar win-win line about the creation of up to 5 million “green jobs” in America, through a combination of cap-and-trade carbon permits, home weatherization, clean coal, higher gas mileage standards, environmental regulation, and various renewable-energy mandates. The “green jobs” political juggernaut has been credited to Van Jones, who was obliged to resign as Obama’s “Green Czar” last summer after reports surfaced that he’d signed a petition supporting an investigation of Bush’s involvement in 9/11. What’s interesting about Jones’ beautiful-sounding concept is that even its chief supporters admit there’s no evidence the theory is true. Which is hardly surprising, since most of Obama’s proposed environmental policies involve making energy more expensive while using more tax dollars to subsidize expensive clean energy sources. As The New Yorker put it in a long, flattering profile of Jones in January 2009, “the mechanics of creating green jobs—or even what jobs should qualify for the title—have yet to be worked out.””
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“Back to the Drawing Board
Democratic fantasies face the bracing slap of reality.”
http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/08/back-to-the-drawing-board
Ha Ha – well Dave – you did raise the dander! LOL
I too was cautioned on the coming ice age in high school – that’s what makes this so farcical – how can the same person go from predicting an ice age to predicting warming in 30 or so years and NO ONE calls him on it?
Weird.
Dave, a little ‘over my head’ I suppose… and I’m six foot two.
Most of my reply was aimed at Global Warming enthusiasts in general since I wasn’t quite sure where you were coming from.
The thought has struck me though that if I’m ever caught up in a swarm of vicious fruit flies then David Suzuki is the guy I want next to me. Otherwise he can stay on Salt Spring Island.
Global Warming, er…now called Climate Change is just the latest in a series of projections meant to scare the hell out of people and force them to live within a prescribed means. Prescribed by environmentalists and activists who think Human beings are the scourge of the earth, as opposed to being its greatest resource. For those of you old enough to remember, who recalls the following scenarios and the resultant policies?
Chicken Little Scenario # 1 (began in 1962)
“DDT is killing the planet and endangering birds.”
“Silent Spring” was a fear mongering book that became as strong a force as today’s Global Warming scare. Action taken – Government’s around the world banned DDT
Result – Millions of people, mainly children in the third world died as the result of the spread of Malaria that occurred when mosquito’s multiplied in the billions.
Fact – Later shown that DDT is harmless to both birds and humans, and DDT made a bit of a comeback in some countries, but is still condemned by environmental groups.
As an aside – David Suzuki became an “environmentalist” after reading this book. (and he remains deluded to this day)
Chicken Little Scenario # 2
“The Population bomb” (1968 to 1970)
The premise being that the world will not be able to support 4 billion people or so. Not enough arable land, starvation, wars, and pestilence will be the result of 4 Billion people on the earth.
Result – scare the hell out of school kids and their parents. People hoarding food, fuel, etc..etc…
Fact – The planet was doing just fine thank you very much. Improved crops and farming techniques meant there is plenty of arable land to support a population even far larger than we have now. Starvation today is usually the result of poor Goverment policy, wars, and tribal conflict, and resource mismanagement.
Chicken Little Scenario # 3 (1970 to 1972)
“Peak Oil”
The premise being that the world will be completely out of fossil fuels by the 1980′s
Result – prices skyrocketed, people stoped driving their cars, and the occassional war here and there. It also forced the car companies to start producing ugly little cars that couldn’t cut a Canadian Winter.
Fact – There is currently enough oil to keep us going for another century or two without any new technological advances.
Chicken Little Scenario # 4
“Ozone depletion over the Antarctic”
The suns rays are going to come in and kill us all like a giant laser beam. Our oceans will boil away while at the same time melting all of the ice in the Antarctic and making sea levels rise (Don’t ask me!!)
Result – stop releasing CFC’s into the atmosphere, and eliminating the use of some of the most effective fire suppression systems in existence, and preventing folks in parts of the developing world from having the ability to refridgerate their food. People bought sunscreen in droves, and kids in school were once again faced with certain death if they played outside exposed to evil elements like sunshine.
Fact – Ozone hole is apparently a natural phenomenon that comes and goes, but now we can measure it with satellites. Of course, those demanding the laws preventing people from using CFC’s took the credit. (Which I don’t mind, because I’m against polluting anything if it is avoidable)
Chicken Little Scenario # 5
“Aids is the end of the world as we know it”
Results – made for really long dry-spells for men in their twenties out looking for women.
Fact – AIDS is still mostly a concern for gay men, drug users, and people in developing nations. It’s a culture thing, not a common thing.
Chicken Little Scenario # 6
“Global Warming”
The world is going to burn up because my mom likes driving and SUV, or something to that effect.
Result – calls for carbon taxes on wealthy nations, wealth transfers from nations who actually create wealth, to those nations incapable of looking after their own populations regardless of the amount of money thrown at them. Calls for emissions standards, calls for even more laws to control how we live, instances of schools used to indoctrinate kids while at the same time scaring the hell out of them (again!!).
Whoops – Global warming hasn’t occurred, need to find a new name.
Climate Change!!!
All that bad stuff that we mentioned before, but now we don’t really need to show any proof or logic.
Too warm – CLIMATE CHANGE!!
Too cold – CLIMATE CHANGE!!
Too much rain – CLIMATE CHANGE
Too many Hurricanes – CLIMATE CHANGE
Tsunami’s – CLIMATE CHANGE
Earthquakes – CLIMATE CHANGE
All very neat, and no need for proof or evidence. This scenario too is going the way of the other alarmist predictions over the last 50 years or so. The trick is not going bankrupt in the process.
And if you haven’t guessed by now, each and every one of these scenarios were created / manufactured by the exact same types of people. There could be pages more to write, but I would just leave one little piece of advice for those who are scared witless by CLIMATE CHANGE.
Do you want to know what controls our climate?
Just look up in the sky towards that big huge ball of burning Hyrdrogen. That’s your climate control device. Ignore everyone else.
PS…someone should find Al Gore and David Suzuki and kick them right in the [use your imagination - blog admin].
If your stock in trade is doom and gloom you aren’t too likely to publish something sunny. The reason the media isn’t publishing Climategate is because it takes away from their self imagined importance. They believe their revenue stream comes from frightening people. Telling people there is nothing to worry about doesn’t bring the readership/listenership that scaring the people brings. That and the fact that a large amount of the media’s ownership has an interest in ‘green money’.
the problem is MONEY
a lot of MONEY is tied up in Global warming
pension money UK and Europe
how it will be resolved remains to be seenfh
sorry last word is seen
then fh
Pension money, Fh? I didn’t know that. How is it tied up in Global warming? Thanks.
Google Britain Carbon trade I watch BBC it was mentioned can’t recall exact dollar amount of Britains Pension MONEY
but it was considerable
a real boondoogle for everyone
fh
I think Steve O nailed it, but then again that’s too black and white a message for the general population to have, and works against the lefts plans. The only way they advance their repressive ideas and foist their control upon us is to create chaos. Jamesin Halifax’s commentary is a excellent breakdown of what I am referring to. Without control the left are nothing yet they control most of the medium. Thank goodness for the internet, it gives common, critical thinking people a means to fight back.
The left has not turned all of us into mindless followers. Slowly more people are waking up.
The other issues we have are a combination of there are too many people in this world.
The further developed countries economies eg North America, Europe embrace these crazy schemes because they have turned a lot of the basic foundations of a solid economy over to the developing economys eg manufacturing to China. In the name of “we are too good for that” attitude. Hmmm, I wonder where that came from…Can one say union, elitists.
The diversity that made US and Canadian economies solid have now become increasingly reliant on the consumer spending and financials.
There are too many people with a lot of free time on their hands that dream up the next big “opportunity”. I think a more appropriate term would be is scheme or swindel.
Mind you this has been happening for years, the opportunities and chances for success are just that much greater with the larger population to draw upon.
It certainly doesn’t hurt your chances when you have like minded people controlling the medium and the message. HELLO MSM!
The death of print and tv media is not a surprise as more and more people are awoken to their bias but sites such as this.
Thank you Joanne for this great forum to discuss and exchange ideas freely.
The major problem with the whole AGW scam was that they shanghaied the whole environmental agenda and made it their own.
As such they then co-opted everything from main-stream science, to the fringe element Greenpeace, PETA, WWF etc. under this umbrella.
The nutters then ran with it and had a field day with manipulation. If you were skeptical of AGW you were a Neo-con gun owning seal killing monster. You were directly responsible for pouring oil into the water table and killing untold people in the third world.
The reality is, most people want the air to be clean, water & earth to be viable, and are prepared to work or fund these endeavors.
However when we are told that we have a blood-guilt for existing and we are morally responsible for transferring vast amounts of money to third world dictators, our backs get up. Particularly when we are told not to question the science/ideology because the ‘science is settled’. Most thinking people will respond to this with a single finger salute and tell them to “F” you,.. we need to see the facts.
I am over 50 and I can’t recall any time in my life that there wasn’t a disaster waiting around the corner, everything from the ‘atom bomb, ice age, hole in the ozone, and the list goes on.
I find it strange that the MSM hasn’t picked up the fact that the disaster scenario may change, but the doom-sayers are always the same. How many predictions of doom has Davey Suck-zuki been allowed before the CBC/CTV calls him out on his half-life?
Al Gore was a joke in Washington, prior to slick Willy getting him as a running mate; he was called Ozone-Al due to his horror stories of the big hole.
I think it’s high time that we stop showing and picking out the obvious bull of the doom-sayers and started confronting them on their own ground, with their own methods.
Joanne @3:43 pm
I left one link @ 10:19 am but there are more, I am convinced.
Joanne,
just in case fh has left for the day:
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/156703/-8bn-BBC-eco-bias-
or
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/03/investmentfunds.pensions
Google UK pension funds climate change and you’ll get 203,000 hits
Fh – Very interesting about the pension money. Thanks.
Thanks Neil.
Always some new wrinkle to this, it seems.
Bec sorry I had not read your comment
great minds are on the same wave length (he he)
difficult problems for all involved
thanks to NeilD great links
fh
O’s “Snow joke”.
Best bee-ess from MSM: “lost productivity”.
“the [O] government approximately $100 million US in lost productivity”.
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“Washington hammered by new snowstorm
“a city already paralyzed by near-historic levels of snowfall”
“Since Friday, the U.S. capital and surrounding areas have seen as much snow as normally falls in a year.”
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/02/10/us-dc-storm.html
From the AGW Fraud File.
ITYS* reporting.
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“BBC Eco Bias (Coverage & Pension activities…YIKES)
STRIKING parallels between the BBC’s coverage of the global warming debate and the activities of its pension fund can be revealed today.
The corporation is under investigation after being inundated with complaints that its editorial coverage of climate change is biased in favour of those who say it is a man-made phenomenon.
The £8billion pension fund is likely to come under close scrutiny over its commitment to promote a low-carbon economy while struggling to reverse an estimated £2billion deficit.
Concerns are growing that BBC journalists and their bosses regard disputed scientific theory that climate change is caused by mankind as “mainstream” while huge sums of employees’ money is invested in companies whose success depends on the theory being widely accepted.
(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk …
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2448206/posts
(*IggyToldYouSo. Not.)
Canadian Mao Stlong’s* Red-Green China/UN.
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“UN vows to stop giving out free medicine to any Haitian hospitals who are charging patients”
“But the U.N. would consider continuing to supply non-governmental groups working at private hospitals with drugs if those groups can make a convincing case that none of their patients are being charged.”
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100209/world/cb_haiti_earthquake
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“China jails Sichuan quake activist Tan Zuoren for subversion
In a sign of Beijing’s renewed hard line against dissent, a Chinese activist has been jailed for five years after he investigated whether shoddy construction contributed to deaths of thousands of schoolchildren in the devastating 2008 earthquake.
The charges against Tan Zuoren, 55, a longtime activist in southwestern Sichuan province, involved “inciting subversion of state power” because of essays in which he criticized the bloody crackdown against pro-democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989.
But friends and his lawyers were in little doubt that Mr Tan’s efforts to document and produce an independent report on the collapse of school buildings in the Sichuan earthquake in May 2008, when some 90,000 people died, were behind the sentence.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7020165.ece
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi
(*Canadian Maurice Strong is Canadian “Liberal leader” Bob Rae’s Uncle Mo.)
UN/WHO Swine flu fraud dead.
UN/IPCC/AGW Fraud is dying.
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“Final Flu Shot Clinic Today
Today is the final chance for residents to receive both the H1N1 and seasonal flu shots from city clinics”
(cfra.com)
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AGW Fraud on Farcebook & Wiki:
“Scientists say IPCC should be overhauled or scrapped
INTERNATIONAL scientists have called for the world’s peak climate change body to be revamped or scrapped after damaging controversies that have dogged the expert panel in recent months.
The scientists suggest a range of options, from tightening the selection of lead authors and contributors to the International Panel on Climate Change, to dumping it in favour of a small permanent body, or even turning the whole climate science assessment process into a moderated “living” Wikipedia-IPCC.
Writing today in the journal Nature, five US, British, German and Swiss climate scientists – all contributing or lead IPCC report authors – agreed a mechanism for assessing the facts and impacts of climate change was critical.
But they acknowledged that calls for reform had intensified after what Nature called “recent furores”. Last month, for instance, it was revealed that flawed communication between teams of scientists led to the IPCC’s inaccurate claim that most Himalayan glaciers would melt almost 300 years earlier than forecast. In November, the release of hacked email messages between climate scientists triggered widespread media reports of scientific wrongdoing.
(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2448259/posts
AGW has now reached it’s tipping point.
The statement below is a wrap.
These “storms back-to-back” is a singular event.
History is written this way: unexpected, unnerving, unknowable.
Humanity is overwhelmed by the awesome unleashing of the majesty and power of an unknowable universe.
And yet, …
“What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?”
(Psalm 8:4)
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“It’s hard to find anything in the history books of these types of storms back-to-back,” said National Weather Service meteorologist Stephen Konarik.”
“Snowpocalypse 2: Blizzard warnings for N.Y., D.C.
By Brett Zongker, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS”
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2010/02/08/12789011-ap.html
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/mt/mt-comments.cgi
Maz2 – You may have already mentioned this but this is hilarious!
(Via Adrian MacNair)
The following website contains some heavy technical data and colorful charts and illustrations:
Why I Am A Global Warming Skeptic
Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Sun, 02/07/2010 – 16:04
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/why-i-am-global-warming-skeptic
“To summarize, Earth’s climate is amazingly, mind-blowingly complex and science has only just begun to figure out how it works.
For the reasons given in the article above, and those described in greater detail in The Resilient Earth, I have concluded that science does not understand the climate system well enough to make the predictions that climate change alarmists keep making.”
“In the absence of better theoretical knowledge and sufficient accurate data, climate scientists have filled the void in understanding with output from computer models, which are the most fickle and fallible of tools.”
“The truth is, climate science uses computer models like a drunk uses a lamppost, not for illumination but for support. Even AGW supporters agree that if the only evidence for global warming were computer models, then skepticism would be entirely justified.”
“But, while models are most definitely a sore point in the global warming debate, they are not the central point. It is the science itself that is uncompelling. Neither current scientific knowledge nor historical data prove the theory of anthropogenic global warming as put forth by the IPCC. If anything, new data and new studies reveal that current climate change dogma has got it very wrong. That is why I remain a global warming skeptic.”
“If we are to listen to those calling for an immediate crash program to reduce CO2 emissions to preindustrial levels the entire economy of the world will collapse, plague and famine will surely follow as people are reduced to living conditions not seen since the dark ages. Developing nations will have to be suppressed, lest their rapid industrial growth pollute the atmosphere. Whole nations will have their dreams of a prosperous future dashed. Heightened international tensions and war are almost a certainty.”
Crank of the Week – January 25, 2010 – Rajendra Pachauri
Submitted by admin on Wed, 01/27/2010 – 13:42
A very detailed report: money, money, money!!
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/crank-week-january-25-2010-rajendra-pachauri
“In addition to the $500,000 awarded by the US Carnegie corporation, the same claim was also used on a $4 million grant application awarded by the the British Government last year to “assess the impact of Himalayan glacier retreat.” TERI has been under scrutiny for some time due to contributions it has received from major corporations, including the Indian conglomerate TATA, Toyota and Deutsche Bank.”
Ed – What a cool site!