That’s what Lorrie Goldstein calls the Copenhagen climate talks.
In another must-read column, Lorrie clearly outlines the purpose of Copenhagen which is power, funding and the transfer of wealth (or what used to be wealth before the recession) – Copenhagen will be a colossal failure.
There is no proof that the climate would even improve under any agreement in Copenhagen, but that doesn’t matter because it is not actually the ultimate goal. Lorrie explains:
… People trying to recover from a global recession, are being told by our political elites we owe this money to the developing world because, until now, we have been mainly responsible for burning fossil fuels that caused man-made global warming.
You can believe that or not, but either way, it leads to the next logical question.
That is: “If we spend all this money, will it work?”
The answer is, unequivocally, “no.”
We already know this because Copenhagen is indeed Kyoto on steroids.
All it will do is create bigger versions of the failed initiatives Kyoto created — for example, the European cap-and-trade market in carbon dioxide emissions.
Born out of Kyoto five years ago, the so-called Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) has done nothing to cool the planet. It’s only “achievement” has been to drive up energy costs and make ordinary people poorer, while showering giant energy companies with undeserved profits.
What will happen under Copenhagen is the ETS will become a global market, in which Canada will have to participate, with similar results.
Kyoto also created mechanisms to generate “carbon credits” — the basic stock unit of a cap-and-trade market, giving the bearer the right to emit one tonne of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, for a negotiated price, because, theoretically, someone else lowered their emissions by a tonne.
We already know carbon credits are rife with profiteering, fraud and corruption. All Copenhagen will do is create more of them.
In transferring hundreds of billions of dollars of our wealth every year to the developing world — including to many of the world’s most tyrannical, corrupt governments — we will be relying on their word they are using our money to cope with climate change and lower emissions. Only an idiot would believe that…
Lorrie has become one of the few voices in Canadian MSM championing the call for common sense and objective scientific analysis vs propaganda, emotion and blind faith when it comes to talk of global warming and climate change. To read more links related to his columns, please click on the ‘Categories’ tab at the right and then select “Goldstein“.
Meanwhile, here is another humourous video to laugh away your frustrations (H/T Kitchener Conservative).
Also please check out Climategate: Follow the money by Bret Stephens, WSJ.
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Update:
National unity at stake in climate strategy, think tank says – Globe
We’ll take the hisses of the climate doomsayers – Peter Worthington:
If it’s true Canada is being reviled as a disbeliever and foot-dragger at the Copenhagen summit on climate change, then good on Canada.
Our Alberta oilsands are often cited as a horrible producer of dreaded greenhouse gases that have the Elizabeth Mays of the world catatonic with concern for the planet. But these produce 0.1% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions.
A reason why Canada is being viewed with narrowed eyes and curled lips at the 12-day Copenhagen summit is because developing countries that sell their greenhouse credits, know the Harper government is on to the scam and won’t play…
John Ivison: Jim Prentice wants climate deal and to keep the store – Post:
...The impression that Canada is a “corrupt petro-state”, intent on scuppering a deal, as British environmentalist George Monbiot charged recently, is false, Prentice said. “It’s in Canada’s interests to replace the Kyoto Protocol with a new agreement,” he said. “[Kyoto] was unworkable because of the level of targets but also because the Americans wouldn’t sign it and because China didn’t have any reduction obligations.”
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Friday Update:
Prentice ‘hot air’ awards justified – John Ivison
Jack Mintz: Our costly climate plan – Post
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Saturday Update:
Canada fiercely opposes proposal to extend Kyoto – Globe:
…A second draft proposal published Friday calls for the wealthiest countries to make far steeper emissions cuts than they have already pledged. The plan proposes that those countries, including Canada, the United States, Britain and Japan, jointly reduce greenhouse gases by at least 25 per cent from 1990 levels by 2020. Current proposed reductions range from 10 per cent to 17 per cent, with deeper reductions by 2050…
At this point I would say that we are fighting a PR war. Time to write letters to the editor, call into talk-shows, do what you can to enlighten your fellow Canadians!
Here’s what we’re up against, folks - Bells ring out in Denmark as faith and climate science join forces.
And this!!!
“Kyoto on Steroids”…..and all the free sex attendees can ask for!
What’s not to like about man made Global Warming.
I do believe that tide is turning and the world is slowly waking up to the real possibility of the trickery behind the whole enviro. movement.
Great video.
CNN’s Larry King had a pretty good panel on this whole Climategate Scam last night. The deniers seems to be renewed and more open about just saying so.
Wondering if the free sex will be the big story coming out of Copenhagen?
It seems to be shaping up to be a colossal waste of time and carbon.
CNN’s Larry King had a pretty good panel on this whole Climategate Scam last night.
Fascinating! Larry King of all people.
and all the free sex attendees can ask for!
Let’s hope they’re wearing their carbon caps.
“carbon caps”
good one Joanne
“gold from coal”
I am still laughing
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Ha,ha,ha. That one was a full 3 minute chuckle Joanne @ 9:27am. Very good!
Heh. Thanks Bec. I was going to add something about emissions but decided to quit while I was behind.
Oh man. The jokes just keep coming.
OT but a new poll by Ekos says most cdns think detainees tortured. But, who did the torturing, it wasn’t our troops and we have no control over how Afghans treat those that have killed and maimed hundreds. Our liberals want them treated like new born babies. How many of those polled would agree to house these killers in their homes. I wonder what the question was. What would the answer be if it was, do you believe Canadian troops tortured these terrorists.
Paul Wells and Andrew Coyne think that Harper made the right move by hitching his climate-wagon to Obama. More accurately, Harper’s rhetoric makes it sound like he is following Obama.
But in fact, Harper is following the U.S. legislators. Obama, as the head of the executive branch has little say (especially with his capital used up on Health Care and Afghanistan, and his popularity below 50 %)
It will be the U.S. Senators which will ultimately call the shots and set the final ghg reduction targets. These “17 % reductions below 2005 levels” are nowhere near being what will end up in any final legislation.
Given the way Republicans play hardball politics, I expect them to torque up climategate, loss of jobs, wealth transfer and the like up to unbearable levels for all the Democratats coming up for re-election in Nov 2010.
Like I’ve said, I believe that emotions drive voters (and donations to Parties) way way more than logic. So the more Gore et al dismiss the importance of climategate, the angrier voters will get, and thus be inclined to punish politicians using the same kind of rhetoric.
Telling voters “you’re too dumb to understand this issue” is a huge gift to your opponents. That is why I hope and pray that Iggy will be dumb enough to play the professor and explain how “coalitions are legitimate, under our Parliamentary system, blah blah.”
Totally off topic, but I notice that nobody in the mainstream media or blogosphere is talking about the NANOS poll out last night showing a whopping 64.3% of Canadians think the country is going in the right direction, and another whopping 68.9% of Canadians have a positive view of how Stephen Harper is handling the government.
If you watch the news, you’d think the sky was falling because of this detainee issue or HST or whatever is the hot topic of the day…. but this poll tells me that a LARGE majority of Canadians seem to think Harper is a competent manager of our country.
68.9%…. isn’t that a pretty huge number coming out of a NANOS poll? I would think it would make huge headlines but it’s not getting picked up anywhere as far as I can tell?
Here’s the pdf for NANOS
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-W09-T406E.pdf
In transferring hundreds of billions of dollars of our wealth every year to the developing world — including to many of the world’s most tyrannical, corrupt governments — we will be relying on their word they are using our money to cope with climate change and lower emissions. Only an idiot would believe that…… indeed only a U.N. idiot or the leader of one of the country’s that stands to gain from our treasure that will further enrich their corrupt elite, provide the U.N. with graft that will make “food for oil” look like a picnic. It would do nothing to improve the climate, weather or anything else other than a bunch of crooks pulling off the worlds biggest scam.
I think H.M. P.M. Stephen Harper is playin’ “rope a dope” with the usual suspects they can shriek at Canada all they want we are not the problem. We are certainly living in interestin’ times.
This Taliban abuse gotcha game is getting out of hand, it’s starting to be talked about off the Hill and it’s not helping the political scum who are tarring our military to get at the Conservative government.
Chretien made the decision to send troops all on his own, no debate in the House. He sent them to battle in the desert wearing GREEN uniforms, without even the proper ammunition to fit their guns, without safe vehicles and they even had to borrow pots to prepare their food from other forces. The likes of Rae and Dosanjh going off on a tirade about one prisoner being beaten, we find out with a shoe, and they want to indirectly accuse our troops of war crimes to make political games. Now, who are the real scumbags?
Love that climate-gate Christmas video. It’s a hoot! Ya gotta have something to laugh about these days.
BTW, I hope we get another fossil award today.
a confrence of elites who flew in, FLEW IN,from all over the world, telling the rest of us that we have to cut back on carbon emissions; any sane person would disregard these idiots, to bad the world is so full of fools
Mary T, the question none of the pollsters dare ask is “If you think the detainees were tortured, do you really care ?”
Jad, that’s right. I’d like to see a poll on that with a sliding scale choice. – ie. choices ranging from greatly concerned to somewhat to not on my radar at all.
I am waiting for the lieberals and dippers to demand this “tortured” POS be brought to Canada to testify against our Soldiers.
Laurie Hawn was on Rutherford, first up this AM discussing the detainee issue.
Finally some common sense. He explained that the prisoner was taken back into the protection of the Canadian military, received medical attention and transferred into the care of the Americans.
He said that it’s important to understand the reason that Canada didn’t set up a prison/camp was because the whole purpose of training the Afghans to police their own country would be defeated if Canada was doing it for them.
He said that the Taliban have a remarkable intelligence system and are just loving this fuss being conjured up by the Libs and Dippers. It plays right into their hands.
This poor little Taliban prisoner was roughed up by his own countrymen and bottom line, the Canadian military protected him immediately, when informed.
The other thing that has not been clarified by the loser opposition loud mouths is this happened, in theatre…..they were in the middle of battle. Unbelievable!
If this poor baby was beaten by a shoe, why all the outrage. Think of how the media supported the guy that threw a show at Pres Bush. In that case it was a wonderful gesture, now it is considered torture. Would they make up their minds. Oh, and someone threw a shoe at the original shoe thrower.
Shoe registration next on the list for the opposition to propose, since the gun thingy is past.
He said that it’s important to understand the reason that Canada didn’t set up a prison/camp was because the whole purpose of training the Afghans to police their own country would be defeated if Canada was doing it for them.
Exactly! Otherwise how can we ever get out of there?
Thanks for the info Bec. I’m going to check that out in the archives.
So they want us to give billions to unaccountable tin pot dictators to spend on WHAT??…Speak Up I Can’t Hear You!!
Of course we won’t mention that the UN crooks will help themselves to a cut of the ‘action’ in Ahmmm…shall we politely call it brokerage kickbacks.
Ya gotta laugh at this or you might wanna cry…Even our dear Liberal party didn’t want to trust the taxpayer with a hundred bucks a month!….What’d they say?…Ah yes…Beer and Popcorn!!
A pessimistic view here*:
“This means that there will be no reality check until the entire mental bubble is punctured through a painful crash with actual reality.
By the time that happens, the collapse may well take much of the edifice of Western civilization with it.”
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“*The Cult of Reason – The Dark Side of the Enlightenment
There are few books published these days that are worth a second look, but The Suicide of Reason by Lee Harris is one of the exceptions. Many observers currently sense – correctly in my view – that something is fundamentally wrong with the Western world, but they differ substantially in their analysis of the cause(s) of this.
The First and Second World Wars were horrible, and most thinking people agree that something went wrong with the Western Cultural Revolution of the 1960s and 70s, which unlike the Chinese Cultural Revolution became institutionalized. But does that mean that everything was fine in the 1950s?”
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4210
Indeed Jad, I would like the Poll question asked…. Do you want the Men and Women in our Military smeared by the Liberals so they can score cheap points at their expense? As far as the “detainees” go two things come to my mind
It is remarkable that there are any “prisoners” at all when they attack our troops, and are not in any uniform. It is typical, cynical, gotcha, blather by the Limping Bellowing Beast the Lieberals have been exposed to be, it was ever so, the further down they go in the polls and the longer they are out of power, the more obvious it is who they really are. The average Canadian is simply not buying into their act any more.
It is getting closer to Christmas and the new year if I had a wish for the Lieberals as a “New Year resolution” it would be for them to express as much concern for the Brave Men and Women doing the “heavy lifting” fighting a fanatical, misogynistic, cowardly enemy who cheerfully plant roadside bombs which kill and cripple our soldiers. The Taliban behead and throw acid in the faces of little girls for daring to go to school.
I know that the Lieberals will not take the advice in the last paragraph, to heart after all Their patron saint Pierre didn’t “man up” when his country called much more fun riding around Montreal on his Motorcycle wearing a German helmet.
”..tarring our military to get at the Conservative government..”
That’s exactly what the outcome will be Liz.
Manley and Graham need to explain why they were satisfied with the Dec 2005 Afghan agreement.
Why they believed Canadian detainees would be treated differently than other Afghan prisoners,
even in the face of documentation from Amnesty Intl and AIHR (2003-04) of abuse torture and killings in the prisons.
That good faith agreement extended to the Harper government, 4 months later.
The agreement between nations had to be honored, by both sides.
Tabor is saying the the PMs salad days are over due to the torture (faux scandal) poll results. I think she is wrong. Some poor guy got beat with a shoe, during a fire fight and our troops rescue him. Funny how that rescue is omitted in the committee.
I hope the PM does not get rid of Peter McKay, as that would be a victory for the media.
Why do they hate our troops so much.
I have decided to do all my shopping at Tims, and get gift cards to send to our troops, as Rick Casson has suggested. I have told all my family they are giving 20.00 worth of Tim cards for the troops, and they agree.
Besides, I hate shopping and it is too cold to look for bargains. Rick is hoping to get 500 cards by Dec 21. 100 come in the first 2 days.
OT, go to SDA and vote in her poll and then read all the suggestions on how to reduct co2.
The cbc is absolutely giddy over this detainee crap and is actually carrying QP live.
The explanation given on Rutherford was repeated by the PM. Gilles almost jumped out of his seat to reply.
Isn’t tomorrow the last day till Jan 6., 2010.
The liberals are still demanding an inquiry, for the so called torture of one prisoner.
Wouldn’t it be great if they tried to get to the truth re climategate, with the same outrage they have over one terrorist. Who, by the way, was tortured by his own people.
MaryT,
the media doesn’t hate our troops. They’re simply selling advertising around the assorted attempts by the opposition to smear the government. The more outrage they can drum up the more advertising they can sell.
The last scandal (I think it was chequegate) petered out with Tom Clark asking one of his panels if it had played itself out since they were the only ones still talking about it. I had to laugh.
O/T but visit AA’s blog and take a look at how desperate the Liberals are getting re: Copenhagen and Harper. I’m pretty sure that we can do justice to the Liberals in kind.
The whole Puffin thing is mild by comparison but it’s the old double standard don’t you know.
I’m sure we could come up with something just as catchy as Ezra’s Libranos poster.
The Libs. are asking for it.
‘Why do they hate our troops so much.’
I honestly don’t think they (oops) hate our troops,
they just jumped on a bandwagon they think will get them closer to government.
But, I do think that Colvin is getting revenge on the Generals.
He wouldn’t even talk to a General or Dept in face to face meetings, he disliked them all so much.
But that is forgotten.
Diplomats make a name for themselves by taking on the establishment.
BTW, Michael Coren will feature four climate deniers on his show tonight. Should be interesting to watch. It airs at six o’clock on CTS (Christian Television) here in Ontario and is repeated at twelve thirty the next day. I know it’s available across Canada so check your schedules.
Coren can be a bully with some of his guests but as a conservative he speaks from the same page as me in most cases and the discussions get quite lively.
Perhaps there is some documentation between the Libs and Cons when the government changed.
But the Harper govt likely can not use it, due to national security.
In his year end interviews, and I hope he has many, PMSH will be able to articlulate the situation.
In the confines of QP and committee, it’s just too much of a slug fest.
Thanks for the tip, Neil. I keep forgetting about Coren in that new time slot.
In the confines of QP and committee, it’s just too much of a slug fest.
Agreed.
What would an inquiry prove/disprove and what would it cost. What would be the results, would anyone go to jail, and if so who.
Maybe in 20 yrs the libs can call one, like they did with Brian.
We need to get our new Senators named, during the coming recess. Then we have to re-introduce every crime bill, with no amendments.
When is the PM going to Denmark, he was in the House today.
OT, but Drudge has a report that the Norwegians are very upset with O for cancelling most of the events that are always planned for the Nobel winner, including refusing a dinner date with the King and with the prize committee. Serves them right for giving him the prize.
I think my head is about to explode after listening to Tom Clark after QP basically saying that the PM calling out the opposition for being non-supportive of our troops as so much b.s. !
Well that is EXACTLY what the Libs, dippers, and bloc are doing when they scream for a public inquiry … maybe the Geneva convention was breached, etc etc etc ad nauseum.
Don’t these idiots realize what they are suggesting … its that Canadian forces, at some level, knowingly turned over their prisoners to be tortured. Plain and simple.
To suggest a coverup, doesn’t there have to be an event that took place, that is against the Geneva convention … essentially a War crime, to be covered up? Last time I checked, I don’t think the Min. of Defence or the PM were enlisted in 2006.
What a waste of taxpapers money this witch hunt is. The Taliban must be giddy by now laughing at how stupid we (well at least some) Canadians are. So one (or maybe more) detainee with gun powder remnants on him got slapped around a little, and maybe made to stay awake past his normal bedtime. BIG freakin deal. Time to move on.
That’s right Dave,the entire opposition can’t have it both ways. It’s not the government who are in the field making snap decisions while fighting in the field, it’s the Forces, the Military Command. If they’re accusing the government of being responsible for standing by while war crimes were committed, they’re accusing those who supposedly, in their dumbass thought process,committed such crimes. In this case it’s the military.
This is all supported by the most terrible excuse for a media in the history of this country.
Mr Harper must have nerves of steel to tolerate that pathetic lot, the Maladroit Liberals, the Dippers who do not even believe in defending our values and the Bloc who are not interested in anything but Quebec and what they can suck from the ROC. A fine bunch to be accusing the government and the Military of misdeeds and covering up criminal activity.
Shoe registration next on the list for the opposition to propose, since the gun thingy is past.
Good one, Mary T. I can’t believe this is all about a shoe. Incredible.
Betting the Liberal screed pushe Tommy Clark will not have General Lew Mackenzie on today who has said Natynchuk’s update is not a bombshell at all, what’s going on on the Hill is nothing but gotcah politics and this issue should be taken OFF THE HILL.
“99. Don Rodrigo:
What constitutes “climate change?” in the mind of the believers?
The WAPO ran a front-page article yesterday (Dec 9, ‘09), with the headline:
“A lingering pool of disbelief : Despite a decade of record drought, Australian farmers refuse to buy into climate change”
I can’t access it without subscription (when the hell did that happen with the Post?), but the headline sums it up.
Somehow, a very prolonged drought or other long-term weather anomaly constitutes “climate change.” If it can’t be measured in at least generations or centuries, it’s not climate change.
The semantic massaging of the language by post-modern liberalism corrupts the whole process.”
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“Rocket Man
Megan McArdle at the Atlantic believes that some of the data analysis and modeling problems now being found in the AGW thesis are due to confirmation bias in which researchers’ observations are anchored on what had previously been reported. She looks at the devastating exposition on Watts Up With That? and asks “Climategate: Was the Data Faked?” But she’s not willing to concede the existence of a conspiracy, which she believes would have required too many conspirators. Instead, she posits the existence of an unconscious bias and quotes Richard Feynman on how error crept in Millikan’s electron experiment to illustrate her point:” (more)
http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/12/09/rocket-man/#comments
I’m thinkin if those Talibaners got slapped around a bit by his countrymen, then he PROBABLY DESERVED IT. ‘Nuff said.
Shame on the opposition.
In my post at 2:58 I mentioned Tom Clark asking his panel if Chequegate (or whatever it was) had played itself out since they were the only ones talking about it.
On todays show he asked another panel the same thing about the Afghan detainees.
I simply shake my head in wonder.
Sorry about the misdirection regarding the Coren show. He was supposed to have on four climate deniers but instead went with yet another repeat of his recent interview with Lord Moncton. I was so looking forward to the four deniers.
BTW, Lorne Gunter was one of his guests yesterday.
Found this on the Afghan detainee. Long thread but very interesting.
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=44692.0
Not only is this about a shoe, it happened in 2006. I have a suggestions for an inquiry-
1. First reinstate the Somali inquiry and have it come to a conclusion. Why did Chretain cancel it.
2. At the conclusion of #1, call a torture inquire, with all the families of fallen and serving Canadian troops called as witnesses.
3. Interview everyone who has come out to salute our fallen on the Highway of Heroes.
What happened to H1N1, how many body bags were needed.
How many doses have been bought that were not needed.
Remember this the next time CB opens her mouth in a faux scandal.
OT, but just read about Barbara Ann Scott with the torch. In 1948 when she visited Medicine Hat, my dad picked her up at the airport in his taxi. He had nothing to sign for autographs so she signed 3, one dollar bills, for each of us. And dad did say, she sure is tiny.
Ex-leftist speaks.
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“Andrew Klavan: My Way Into and Out of the Left
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Andrew Klavan, the author of such internationally bestselling crime novels..
Klavan: It was an experience that very much mirrored the pattern of the famous paradigm shift described in Thomas Kuhn’s “Structure of Scientific Revolutions.” Anomalies started to occur, things that didn’t fit into what I thought of as a “liberal” world view. … Then the Berlin Wall fell down – everything Reagan predicted – stupid Reagan, cowboy Reagan, dumb old movie actor Reagan – every single thing he said would happen, happened. And it finally began to dawn on me, “Oh, I get it: it’s not this and this and this that’s wrong. It’s ALL wrong.” And I started the long, difficult process of changing my mind.
Klavan: Shame and guilt and self-hatred are universal. Whether you chalk it up to original sin or to Oedipus or call it Jewish guilt or Catholic guilt or white guilt or black guilt, every single one of us knows he is not the person he was made to be. There are honest ways to confront that. You can kneel before God and pray for forgiveness and live in the joy of his love. Or you can drink heavily and make sardonic remarks until you destroy everyone you care about and then keel over dead – that’s honest too. But what a lot of people do is try to escape their sense of shame dishonestly by constructing elaborate moral frameworks that allow them to parade their virtue and their lavish repentance without any real inconvenience to themselves while simultaneously indulging in self-righteousness by condemning others for their impenitent evil. That’s the bad version of religion – the sort of religion Jesus came to dismantle. And that’s exactly the sort of religion leftism is.
(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2404962/posts
Mary T, that’s a great story!
CBC rewards you with some of your tax dollars well spent .
But, CBC did not write this; it’s CanPress copy.
Get this for closer:
>>> “For Ignatieff, that wrapped a tough year in the Commons because he was not going to be at the final session of Question Period.
>>> ???? That’s because it will be Friday, and for the opposition leader, that means he’ll be in Montreal.”
Go home, Iffy.
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“Parliament set for holiday recess
Parliament was to begin its holiday recess Friday with MPs scheduled to return to the House on Jan. 25.
As the recess begins, election fever has fizzled, the Conservatives are stronger than ever and the Liberals are wounded and regrouping.
Canadians, it seemed, did not want another election and it appeared they were prepared to punish the Liberals if they sparked one.
Despite a Conservative jump in the polls that briefly elevated them to the dizzying heights of majority territory, surveys now show the seat standings would not change much in Canada’s minority Parliament if a vote were held now.
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff’s personal popularity has also plummeted massively, according to pollsters. Prime Minister Stephen Harper, meanwhile, has managed to competently govern the country, providing a steady hand during the economic crisis.
Only when the Afghan torture imbroglio flared again in recent weeks have the Conservatives been on the hot seat, but that may not be a ballot-box issue for most Canadians, say pollsters.
The quick cooling of election fever was in large part because of a risky strategic move by the NDP to back the Conservatives for as long as it took to pass a $1-billion improvement to employment insurance benefits.” (more)
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/12/10/parliament-recess010.html
FYI, great post by Adrian MacNair on the Afghan detainee issue.
Check it out.
‘the families of fallen and serving Canadian troops’
I hope they can stay strong thru all of this,
and our brave men and women in uniform too.
I am so angry they have to be subjected to this cruelty.
Tomorrow is Red Friday!!!!
More on the torch. I guess I will have to pay attention to the torch run in Chilliwack, BC, 3 days before the games start. My cousins daughter is carrying it. Just found out tonight. She is employed at the UofS in the sports dept and was nominated by the University. Now she is asking her family for money instead of a gifts for Christmas so she can buy it.
The Libs and Dips love inquiries to delay and drag on their hopeless agenda to get at the government and at great expense. An inquiry on this one would be the ultimate disgrace to our forces and our country when we are at war. There’s nothing we need or want to know on this file and it should NOT be another of their constant political gotcha games.
I’ve never been so ashamed of the goings on in our HOC. Do they think the Taliban don’t have access to this stuff and aren’t enjoying our stupidity? We’re playing right into their hands.
God help us it the Left had been running the show during our World Wars, they wouldn’t be enjoying their silly games in a HOC today. IDIOTS.
>>>Prentice said:
>>>“It’s in Canada’s interests to replace the Kyoto Protocol with a new agreement,””.
Repeat:
“>>>Prentice said:
>>>“It’s in Canada’s interests to replace the Kyoto Protocol with a new agreement,””.
Mao Stlong’s Indulgences For Sale or Rent.
Mao Stlong “may not be playing by the rules.”
“Beijing has collected almost two-thirds of the total carbon revenue flow since 2002.”
Canadian UNabomber Mao Stlong Strong is Canadian “Liberal leader” Bob Rae’s Uncle Mo.
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“China CO2 Emissions
Climate Change or Hot Air?
China recently surpassed the US as the world’s largest source of greenhouse gases.
Mainland China earns billions in carbon-offset sales. But by taking credit for projects that would have been built anyway, it may not be playing by the rules.
On the wooded hills outside the city of Harbin in the northeastern province of Heilongjiang, Chinese developers are building towering wind turbines that will spin day and night to generate clean electricity. The project represents the hope that China, which recently surpassed the US as the world’s largest source of greenhouse gases, has truly embraced environmentalism.
The planned 29 turbines near Harbin represent something else as well: the widely accepted notion that market forces can be harnessed to aid the fight against climate change. Under the international treaty known as the Kyoto Protocol, Chinese wind-power developers are selling “carbon credits” reflecting their reductions in emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases.
Corporate and government buyers from industrialized countries pay for the credits as a way of complying with the Kyoto climate-change rules. The funds generated are supposed to encourage additional green-energy projects without forcing owners of older factories and power plants to close down their facilities or undertake expensive renovations. Credits sold under the Kyoto pact generated nearly $7 billion worldwide last year. Beijing has collected almost two-thirds of the total carbon revenue flow since 2002.
Unfortunately, wherever they have been used, carbon credits have been subject to manipulation. On Dec. 4 the UN committee that oversees the international credit trade refused to approve 10 Chinese wind farms, including the Harbin complex. The UN’s concern is that the Chinese projects would have been built even without the proceeds from credits.
If that’s correct, the sale of credits would not stimulate production of any additional clean energy. Credit purchasers would receive empty environmental bragging rights, and the Chinese developers would obtain an undeserved windfall. “This is 21st century climate-policy snake oil,” says Michael Dorsey, a professor of environmental studies at Dartmouth College.
Officials at China’s National Development & Reform Commission, which oversees the country’s ambitious-sounding goals to expand renewable energy use, didn’t return repeated phone calls seeking comment on the UN decision.
Offsets Without Benefits
Despite the potential for exploitation of the carbon market, representatives of 192 nations are discussing ways to expand it at the UN climate summit in Copenhagen, which runs through Dec. 18. The US Senate, meanwhile, is poised to consider sweeping environmental legislation early next year that includes provisions allowing corporations to avoid certain pollution-reduction mandates by purchasing carbon credits.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,666378,00.html
O/T – the usual left-leaning press is in a full-court press this morning trying hard to water down the success of the PM this sitting. Hebert(Toronto Star) in particular snags readers with her contention that the PM is losing the PR wars. Think again Ms. Hebert.
I see the PM winning the PR war hands down over both Loony Layton and The Waffle.
Here’s hoping that Joanne and other Tory bloggers can put a lie to the wishful thinking of Hebert and others.
I know that I’ll be tuning in to the positive and hopeful over Christmas and leaving the doom and gloom to the Liberals and spinners.
Say, where’s the Waffle spending his LONG vacation. I read in the Hill Times that some in Iffy’s caucus are none too happy that he’s taking such a long break with the rebuilding of a party at stake and all that.
Take a cue from Sandy Joanne and take some well-earned vacation time away from this to enjoy your new family to the fullest.
Oh, and eat cake….lots of cake(but no fruitcake for me – yuk!)
“Parliament was to begin its holiday recess Friday with MPs scheduled to return to the House on Jan. 25.”
WHAT!!!!!!!
I thought last year they were all up in arms because SH “shut down the work of parliment”….so, how come I don’t hear howls of protest this year???????
sarc off
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Richo, no fruitcake for you? You must have tried some really bad fruitcake,they aren’t all bad even though they are the butt of jokes.
Kate on Charles Adler now 1:38 P.M. CST Friday on Global Warming
Story at Drudge re a Professor, during a presser, calling in armed UN security guards to stop a jounalist from filming it and asking questions re climategate.
Cheers to Canada for the two fossil awards given today.
Story at Borque apparently Mr Lumumba Stanislaus DiAping walked out of the Copenhagen meetings on account of “there being a different agenda then the Official U.N. Process” I am guessing here but maybe the dump truck that was slated to deliver the load of gold bars was not running on Bio-fuel contrary to U.N. directive MXXX329-7.
Or maybe there is some hope in the world and everyone isn’t lining up like good little lemmings to go over the cliff into the sea. I hear we are up to TWO fossils woo hoo
My cousins daughter is carrying it. Just found out tonight. She is employed at the UofS in the sports dept and was nominated by the University.
Mary T – That is so exciting! Please keep us posted on that. I want to hear all the details. Thanks.
The news just gets better. Our grocery store was bought by a young couple, and took over Oct 13. He entered a contest run by coke, for customers, and he won. He will be carrying the torch in Okotoks. Coke bought the torch for him to keep and he will display it after the run.
2 torchbearers from a town of 700. And conservatives had nothing to do with it. Coke also had a beautiful pin designed, with the torch route on it. Not for sale, just for staff involved in doing the orders for stores. My g/daughters mother got this pin today.
Mary T, that’s so cool!
It’s a very exciting time for sure. The torch came by here years ago when my son was just a toddler. Poor kid got frostbite on his cheeks because I wanted to see it but the weather was freezing. Oh well. He survived.
On another note, all those cities that went with the led traffic lights got a big shock when it snowed. They don’t give off enough heat to melt the snow, so traffic lights are not working. But, they are saving on energy costs.
But, they are saving on energy costs.
And that’s all that matters with the environmentalists, right?
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Unfortunately something rotten is about to happen in the state of Demark where our so-called “world leaders” are expected to acquiesce to a tax escalating and wealth transferring scam. A Canadian PM more apprehensive pursuant to the economy and welfare of Canadians than he is about his own prospects would enthusiastically and ardently oppose any form of the fraud known as “Cap, Tax, & Transfer” which will devastate the Canadian economy, transfer billions of our tax dollars to corrupt socialistic/communist countries, slaughter tens of thousands of our jobs, and diminish our standard of living
Now that communism has been invalidated, “Climatism” is the new “ism” adopted by the extremists as their vehicle to increase taxes and transfer wealth just as Trudeau’s National Energy Program was intended. The inconvenient truth is that the job slaughtering “Cap, Tax & Transfer” scheme that left-plunging Harper and Prentice are about to inflict us is a stealth strategy for enormous, disingenuous long-term, structural tax increases. “Cap, Tax & Transfer” will evolve around an economic Ponzi scheme that includes an enormous new source of tax revenue to the Canadian government to allow it to continue its current expansion into the private sector, will transfer billions of our tax dollars, will demolish tens of thousands of high paying manufacturing and service jobs, result in the transfer of political power to the emerging global governance, will be a devastating disasters for our children’s standard of living, and a overwhelming transfer of wealth starting with the Climate Change Fund (CCF) which is being established to increase the reach of global governance and transfer at least $10 billion annually to the nations (many corrupt, some communist) of the world who repudiate creating their own wealth. Our PM must stay far, far away from any contributions to this fraud fund which will finance the retirement funds for thousands of corrupt, socialistic, largely unelected leaders. Surely we all remember the last time that the UN was given responsibility and how they managed to screw-up the corrupt “Food for Oil” fund.
Countries that participate in this wealth transferring and tax increasing scam will discover that their government deeds will result in a massive increase in taxes plus the cost of goods and services such as gasoline, electricity, and most industrial produced products. The increase in the price of Canadian goods would make them less competitive in world markets. Canadian producers will suffer in export markets and domestically in competition with goods imported from countries that do not impose high implicit tax on CO2 emissions. The results of course will be massive manufacturing and service industry job losses leading to a much lower standard of living for us and especially our children…
The latest scientific evidence clearly illustrates that the climate has not changed in the last eleven years, and that the so-called “climate change” is a socialistic hoax to transfer wealth. Therefore, at this time our PM must not annihilate the Canadian economy just to please the left-wing extremists who insist on higher taxes and wealth transfers. British climate expert Anthony Cary reports that “climate science is in its infancy….only fools or rogues pretend to be sure of what is going on…Our climate models are barely predictive”. Rational people would think that the first step must include legitimate research and informed discussions pursuant to the current climate change paradigms rather than relying on erroneous computer models based on left-bias assumptions and manipulated data by some rogue “scientists”. These scientists are competing in a culture of exaggeration for the finite number of government research dollars by fabricating gloom and doom fantasies. The deliberations must include more than incontrovertibly paying attention to the biased press and environmental NGOs, each of which have their far-left agendas plus incentives to increase their influence and earnings or government grants. Step two would mandate the private sector, including the investment community possibly with tax incentives, to research, develop, produce, and implement technology necessary, such as carbon capture and sequestration, to resolve any climate problems that might be scientifically and legitimately confirmed to be acute; by reducing the carbon intensity per unity of production.
It is becoming increasing transparent that the so-called “climate change” panic is nothing more than a deception by far-left wealth redistributing advocates. Unfortunately Canada does not have a small-c fiscal conservative PM, nor are small-c conservatives represented in the Conservative Party or the Canadian Parliament, so Harper will likely fully partake in this swindle which will begin slaughtering the Canadian economy.