(NSFW – Only for family festivals)
H/T Maz2.
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Related: Politics getting in way of Pride – Jonathan Naymark, National Post
A few gems here – Gay parade cleanup upsets striking workers – National Post:
…but the strike meant the city had to use a team of nearly 100 non-union city staff and a “handful” of private contract workers instead, said city spokesman Rob Andrusevich.
This plan didn’t sit well with union members, who stood on Yonge Street and blocked the approximately one dozen private contractors the city hired to pick up and load sections of moveable metal fence from along the parade route.
“We’re trying to slow them down from doing our job,” said picket captain Ben DeSousa…
So, why not just do it yourselves?
…Not to be outdone, Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff and Toronto Centre MP Bob Rae walked the parade route alongside a Liberal float, from which a drag queen in a lime green dress swivelled her hips.
Her?
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Welcome SDA readers!!! Kate wants photos of Iggy and Rae.
Here are a couple of Iggy for ya, Kate! (Numbers 10 & 13)
Gee, I don’t know about you, but his outfit seems a bit dull to me. Do you think he’s feeling comfortable? Looks a bit overdressed too.
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Police should charge naughty parade participants, reverend urges - Sault Star:
…But police have in the past charged participants for nudity –only to have charges dropped because it was successfully argued the suspects were wearing shoes…
Those must have been some high boots!
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Evening Update:
Obligatory gay pride post – Eric at Diogenes Borealis.
While some people take the summer off… - Alberta Ardvark.
Liberals need more time to refill Ignatieff’s tank – Chantel Hebert (H/T Frmgrl) (Very interesting choice of photo accompanying that headline)
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Tuesday Update: No special treatment for Pride: Mayor – National Post
And an excellent letter in today’s Post – Not Proud:
Re: Politics Getting in the Way of Pride, Jonathan Naymark, June 26.
As a young Zionist and proud Israeli, witnessing Palestinian campaigners at Toronto’s Gay Pride Parade carrying signs reading “Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism” and “Out with Israeli apartheid” made me feel personally attacked and discriminated against. The Palestinian display did not indicate any support for the gay and lesbian community. Rather, they used the parade as a political platform to discriminate against another people. Their intolerance towards Israel — the only country in the Middle East where one can be open about his or her sexuality — had no place in a parade that encourages acceptance of people from all walks of life.
Lavi Zemer, Toronto.
Raphael has a thought-provoking post up on the topic of public nudity in the Pride Parade – What Is The Purpose Of A “Gay Pride” Parade?
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“Const. Wendy Drummond said there is no blind eye and all laws will be enforced.” – Toronto Sun
Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too.
Yepper all for a gay sex party.
My festival didn’t even get by secretary.
http://www.icecreamfest.ca/
We certainly need to voice our distaste for for such an expenditure in a recessionary period, that’s just for starters.
Under what right does the Gay movement qualify for any kind of grant from our coffers?
It’s not a religious or an ethnic group, they have been afforded the same rights as everyone else in our society and more.
The Opposition cannot criticize, they are all for it, it’s stupid politics over common sense.
It’s not Conservative values to toss money out in a time when even the province which has been the economic engine of the country is in dire straits.
Think what an infusion of nearly half a million would do to aid the ailing health care.
No more money need be begged for from me until they smarten up and get their Conservative brains in gear. Not funding it would have caused squealing from the usual sources but we have the best reason not too right now, RECESSION.
The pride day gets funding,and the Canada Day celebrations are canceled. Something is not right with this picture.
Quote from Steve in the Comments at Ben-Ami’s website:
“Here’s an example. One of Hillier’s policy proposals is to eleminate Ontario’s abusive Human Rights Commission and transfer cases of authentic discrimination into the real court system. This single proposal electrified the conservative base and forced every other candidate to adopt a similar position or risk being left in the dust. The result? Whoever wins the leadership, the PC Party of Ontario will soon be the first major political party in Canada with a serious plan to overhaul the hated system.
The point of all this is – don’t quit the party. Sure, withhold your donations as a sign of protest, but remain a member, and when the time comes, role up your sleeves and fight for your principles. If we do this instead of jumping ship, we will win.”
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In the words of the poet, “Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth”.
Arthur Hugh Clough
So Toronto did get funds for stimulation?
Robins111- I can’t allow your comment but I hear your frustration.
I think they need to change the name of the parade. Surely no Canadian, I don’t care what your sexual preference, can be proud of old nude exhibitionists.Not the path to credibility!
OT/ Another insightful article by Chantel Hebert on Ignatieff. Go have a read, it’s another good one.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/658102
#5
Good one Bec
NeilD
I am completely disgusted by this. The next CPC canvasser will get an earful and NO donation.
Walking around naked in public is OK? People actually bring their kids to see this debacle?
Sickening.
A lot of gay men & women are embarrassed by the antics at Pride parades – I know I am. The behaviour by some of the participants and the voyeuristic coverage by the media does not reflect well on gay people in general, who are mostly hard-working middle-class citizens. Roman-orgy-style excess at pride events also gives homophobes a club to metaphorically beat us up with.
Homosexuals by and large want to be treated equally and with respect. That means that behaviour that would not be tolerated at “main-stream” events like Caribana should not be tolerated at Pride events if we want to be considered part of the “main stream”. Sadly, some of the vocal leaders of the gay “community” don’t want to be part of the main stream, and political leaders outside the gay community won’t touch the issue for fear of being labelled homophobic. What politician wants to go on record as the person who cut funding to Gay Pride? Kiss the next election goodbye.
Change will come when gay people themselves start speaking out about the public image that Gay Pride excess unfairly attaches to so many of us. Our lives are not circus side-shows, so why behave like carnival clowns in a Fellini film on the one day of the year when everyone is paying attention?
Eric, that was very well said. Thanks so much for weighing in here.
THANK YOU, ERIC!!! Well said!
Why not have a HETEROSEXUAL PRIDE DAY WITH FLAG and all.
Well said Eric. Few people are fans of overt flaunting on any subject. Be it religion, sexual orientation, politics, or just about anything you can think of, people don’t care for it much.
That in your face attitude of some is what turns people off and ends up hurting your cause rather than helping it.
Celebrate Garbage Days in socialist McGuinty’s Ontario: July 1-4.
Union approved with pride.
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“Kerfuffle over fireworks ruffles promoter
July 4th fireworks extravaganza to welcome back tourists and seasonal residents for the summer
Kenora was the focus of national media attention this past week as both CBC and the Globe and Mail ran items on local reaction to the news that there won’t be a fireworks display over Harbourfront as part of the community’s Canada Day festivities this year.
The Harbourfront fireworks show takes place with the ‘Celebrate Summer Extravaganza’ on Saturday, July 4.
Still there are those for whom Canada Day isn’t complete without fireworks. People who want to see lights in the sky July 1 can go to Keewatin for the fireworks display that’s part of the neighbourhood’s Canada Day kick-off to the week long homecoming celebration, Summer Splash 2009.
Still that’s small compensation for some.
“I was surprised to hear the July 1 fireworks are on July 4, especially with a lot of people in town and people coming in from out of town to celebrate Canada Day,” commented Kenora resident Sandy Hanstead. “I was just shocked at the change.”
“Canada Day is July 1st, it’s our birthday not July 4th,” agreed Diane Bradley in Keewatin. “It doesn’t seem very patriotic.””
http://www.lotwenterprise.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1630241
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“Cancelled Canada Day Events
25 Jun 2009 … Cancelled Canada Day Events. The City of Toronto announced today that all City-run Canada Day events and those that had permits to take …
wx.toronto.ca/…/C947EE94BB97292D852575E0007949EA”
I am thoroughly disgusted with the government giving $400,000 for this so called Gay Pride parade. The conservative party has lost me in the polls and purse. My support will now be fully behind the Christian Heritage Party. I thought much of Mr Harper, but now he might as well linked arms with Iggy, Jack and Bob walking and parading with the naked perverts. It is hard for me to believe that anyone would bring family to such an event – it is nothing to be proud about.
Well you now know where Mayor Miller’s allegiance … gay pride YES ! …. Canada Day NO !
I wonder when our glorious MSM will call Miller out on this …
Intrepid @#17
I think if you thoroughly read Éric @# 11, you may see that the government has very little choice in these type of events and I especially agree that mainstream homosexuals are mortified with the type of behaviour that occurs. The parade, does not portray the position of the majority. That is essential to understand and I doubt that Layton and Ignatieff being present, gained them any additional voters support.
Very well said, Éric!
Bec, in case there is any misunderstanding, Eric @ #11 is not the same as separatist Éric.
Just so there’s no confusion.
Eric is ‘a middle-aged gay libertarian Conservative, living in dignified isolation in rural Eastern Ontario, Canada’.
He is a Blogging Tory with a very excellent blog.
Thinly veiled homophobia at it’s finest. Pride generated millions upon millions of dollars for Toronto business. The money is well spent and talk to any business owner in downtown TO about their committment to the event and they’ll tell you how important it is.
You don’t like it? Fine, stay home and shut up.
O’Gay and the Homosexual Agenda.
TO Globe & Mail and the Homosexual Agenda.
Socialists McGuinty & Miller’s Homosexual Agenda.
What is being attacked?
“*all forms of traditional organic social authority (based in such things as family, religion, custom, and moral standards).
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“Gay Leaders Celebrate Anniversary Of LGBT Movement With Obama Monday
Washington, D.C. (AHN) – President Barack Obama celebrates the birth of the LGBT movement on Monday with a White House reception amid discontent among gay groups over his apparent hesitance to follow through with campaign promises such as overturning the government’s ban against homosexuals serving freely in the military.
The President and First Lady Michelle Obama host a reception in the East Room at 4:25 pm ET that will “recognize and celebrate the accomplishments of the gay community. The event is part of Obama’s proclamation marking June as LGBT Pride Month, and coincides with the 40th anniversary of 1969 riots that began in the Stonewall Inn, considered the birth of the modern gay movement.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2281633/posts
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“Bits and Pieces, February 2008
… gay-rights agenda, was named to the Order of Ontario, as was William Thorsell, an open homosexual who was editor-in-chief of the Globe and Mail and whom …
http://www.theinterim.com/2008/feb/02bitsandpieces.html”
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*”Hyperdemocracy and the Gnostic Impulse
(c)William Gairdner”
http://www.williamgairdner.com/hyperdemocracy-and-the-gnostic/
Regardless of what you believe about the parade, the fact that 400k can be found for this, but nothing can be done for Canada day is appalling. Canada day should always come first, especially in the historical capital of Upper Canada.
This country is becoming more and more a celebration of anything but being Canadian.
Queer Bob, you do your community a great disservice when you talk like that.
I think Eric put it very well, we are all different in our own way, acceptance by the community of all of us is a very laudable goal. There are two issues here. I don’t think an in your face sideshow is a good way to gather support,especially one that tax paying folks whatever their orientation don’t really want to subsidize. There are so many needs out there people who are waiting for surgery, I could go on. I really would not want to see a parade of this nature in my town, I certainly resent having to pay for it whoever’s town it is in. I very much agree with Eric and Bec that the majority of people in the community aren’t filled with “pride” by vulgar displays of sexuality, whether it is Homosexual or hetrosexual in content.
As for six-minute-Jack referring of course to the average wait time in an emergency room in Canada according to Jack, I think he was confusing that with the amount of time he spent on the “waiting list” to get into subsudized housing. Mr Ignatieff well just trolling for votes between makin’ threats and backin’ down, gathering material for a new book perhaps. Lightweights both.
Hey Queer Bob,
Change ‘Gay Parade’ to ‘Crack Cocaine’, either way the resulting spectacle is disgusting.
“Thinly veiled crack-phobia at it’s finest. Crack cocaine generated millions upon millions of dollars for Toronto dealers. The money is well spent and talk to any crack dealer in downtown TO about their committment to the event and they’ll tell you how important it is.
You don’t like it? Fine, stay home and shut up.”
I’m not homophobic, Queer Bob, just disgusted with both the fiscal irresponsibility and the inappropriate display. Neither you or the crack dealers will keep me out of downtown. The Gay Pride Parade is not entertainment, it’s just shocking. There’s a difference, and taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for the latter.
Well Bob, the next time that groups that are diametrically opposed to your movement because of what is peceived to be legitimate reasons, will you guys take your advice to “shut up and stay home”? No……..I didn’t think so.
All too much we’re told to “shut up and stay home” because of our religious beliefs. And according to people like you, that is okay. But when you’re told the same when it regards our demonstrative displays of faith, well that is “discrimination”. Don’t think for one second that your level of hypocrisy won’t be exposed -every single time.
Queer Bob – this is not homophobia. You know, those of you (straight and gay) who scream homophobia any time that you cannot come up with a reasonable argument are the same people who are driving real homophobia underground where it is much more effective and devastating. You have dishnoured gay people with your comment and your attitude.
The fact that people, like myself, object to money being available to fund the parade but not to fund Canada Day celebrations, is not an indication of homophobia. You have ignored the salient point – which I am sure you caught – and, instead, resorted to making a baseless accusation.
I of Lebanese descent and I am a straight male. If Toronto funded a parade for straight males of Lebanese descent and did not fund Canada Day celebrations, I’d be very ticked off and if anybody else was ticked off, I would not accuse them of being phobic of straight males of Lebanese descent.
Queer Bob – even your handle is disrespectful to gay people. Oh, and QB – I’m also a religious person – of the Christian faith and I show more respect for gay people than you have with your comment.
My respect is so great that I don’t think that gays should have a parade – it smacks of segregation and apartness. To me a gay person is just an ordinary person and I cut him or her no more slack (or lack of slack) than I do with anybody else.
So, Queer Bob – why don’t you take a good hard look at yourself and make some attitudinal changes. As Joanne said – you have done gay people a disservice with your comment.
Queer Bob, when my dollars are given to an event about sexuality, complete with outrageous and embarrassing displays not suited for all audiences,trumps Canada Day celebrations, I will stay home, no problem, BUT I WILL NOT “SHUT UP”.
I don’t think a tasteful discussion on the social morass and political pandering equals homophobia.
Sidenote to “doesn’t-make-sense” whose comment won’t be approved. Please make a shorter comment with less links.
Short and sweet is best. Thanks.
Sorry Joanne, I guess I was a bit off the wall.
However, I can’t understand how his blondness, could find the cash to clean up after monument of stupidity, but has to cancel Canada Day.
However, seeing Mare Miller in action I guess it’s to be expected.
ps. If anyone is looking for a good picture of Miller, it’s in the dictionary, beside the word, ass
Well, that was an improvement, Robins111!
Let me say what’s already been said so well before:
We’re here, we’re queer, get used to it.
Joanne darling, on behalf of my community, go f – - – yourself.
I allowed that comment minus the profanity just to give a taste of the kind of element your tax dollars are supporting.
Joanne, that type of comment is exactly what we would expect from a guy like Queer Bob.
Unlike Eric, who shows class and decency.
Keep your wieners covered up and we might not have such a problem with your parade. Show some dignity.
Queer Bob – you are the one who is reading problems into the blog. You need to get some help. Nobody here cares if you’re gay or not. Get over yourself – you’re not special just because you’re gay. I think you really do have issues with your own self. How about if you get used to yourself and stop projecting your insecurities on us.
As for your total ignorance toward Joanne – you are a disgrace to all humans – gay, straight, female, or male. You are ignorant and you have no business participating on a civilized and courteous blog. I do hope that Joanne blocks you.
BTW, Queer Bob – you do not represent your community – unless you’re talking about rude people who are a disgrace to humanity.
Notice how the Liberals are wearing photos of Trudeau around their necks?
Ewwwww, Trudeau.
What I want to know is, will Queer Bob now vote Conservative because of the Federal stimulus money given to Pride?
Nah, I didn’t think so.
Off Topic;
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Real+gold+gone+from+Mint+report+finds/1743873/story.html
Executive Director Bullion and Refinery (including Refinery Operations) started at the Mint in 2002, who was the government?
Remember a guy named Dingwall, “I’m entitled to my entitlements.”
The Mint hires Deloitte Touche to do this report referred to in the Ottawa Citizen story. Who started working for Deloitte Touche immediately after leaving government?
Pierre Pettigrew, who was the Minister responsible when the HRDC Scandal occurred, which was subsequently dumped on the hapless Jane Stewart and she took the fall.
Check out Jack and Olivia at the pride parade: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/archive/2009/06/28/pride-parade-in-pictures.aspx
Looks like he’s doing a strip-tease.
Soccermom, what’s that in Olivia’s hand I wonder?
“Shut up and stay home” EH? well this taxpayer is going to do a little better than that I am going to be talking to my MP about pandering to special interest groups with my tax dollars, If the “circus” comes to town and I want to go see the “show” I.E. buy a ticket that is a choice I will make myself. Unlike some very anxious politicians, I don’t have to pretend to like anyone, I am not looking to get elected just to have my tax dollars respected, along with the nice Lady that runs this blog, respect is a two way street “Queer Bob”
Queer Bob and his pals have started threatening me so I won’t be allowing those comments anymore.
What’s in Olivia’s hand indeed. Maybe it’s a whip, nah, she wouldn’t whip a new grandaddy.
The money for the pride parade flows from Marquee Tourism Events Program
http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/dsib-tour.nsf/eng/h_qq00160.html
Hate it or love the pride parade qualfy’s for the program..
Tier one.
minimum overall attendance: 250,000;
minimum percentage of attendees that are tourists: 10%;
minimum cash operating budget: $2 million;
minimum number of years event/organization has been in existence: 3 years;
programming that lasts for at least 3 consecutive days; and
an existing international marketing strategy that incorporates overnight tour packages.
Just thought it might be helpfull to understand why the government gave money.
“Queer Bob and his pals have started threatening me…”
Very typical. They don’t like your POV so they threaten. We don’t threaten them. Where’s the tolerance, guys??? Or is it only supposed to go one way?
Hmmm, you’re right, Jo, WHAT is that thing in Olivia’s hand?
Thanks for the info, JDot. Much appreciated.
Where’s the tolerance, guys??? Or is it only supposed to go one way?
I’m going to apply for funds to hold a parade in Toronto for straight female bloggers. Our rights to freedom of speech are being threatened.
That last comment was intended to be tongue-in-cheek, BTW.
My guess is that gay right bloggers like Eric have a much more difficult time.
Shock value seems to be be the most common way of drawing attention to one’s self or trying to elicit a response that they be used a future date to hold up a cry intolerance. Our government leaders and lefties leading this revulsive phase of “inclusion” have left respect and common sense in the trash on a corner street. The HRC’s are the perfect symbol.
I will say that there are some people that so wrapped up in their own world that anyone that opposes can go you know what themselves. And…the above gives the “minority” a place to take people who oppose their “ideas”. (truly sad)
Our country with so much potential has been taken over by elitist’s who have their own agenda: make up nonsense, paranoia to create high paying jobs for themselves. Then unionize and completely protect ourselves. One radio host summed unions up perfectly, unions are there to protect the weak and pull the strong back down. Instead of allowing people to excel and push the bar higher, we are pulled back to mediocrity. It’s sad that we are accepting this!
David Warren (sorry I can not attach the link as my work security blocks most blogs) had an excellent post on this subject called Tyrannies on June 28th. I highly recommend it be read.
Entitlement is a now common thread in our society, look at QB’s comments. It’s called the “me” generation and screw the we. Thank you lefties however I would like to return this piece of garbage and have the we generation back.
It’s seems elitist’s have had a 25-30 year head start, besides the blogging, how do we change this disasterous tide before it’s too late. How do we give a voice to the “Common Sense” movement?
Miller should be embarrassed.
The gay community knew just what to do to get funding for this event…follow the rule and voila…funding appears.
I do believe that the gay community could teach Miller a lesson in how to get stimulous cash.
I give the gay/lesbian community credit for doing what Miller has failed to do on that score.
Also, so suggest that gays are either Liberal or NDP shows an ignorance that really surprises me. I know this not to be the case.
You can always vote Ignatieff.
Sorry, I don’t think this is an issue, as someone already suggested the event meets the criteria of the application…it’s fair game for funding, but so too is the opposition to it, but Bubba’s got the right idea in voicing his opposition to his local MP.
I can’t get too excited by this.
Joanne,
You provide a wonderful forum to share “ideas” not threats. It truly is a sad state of affairs for our country, free speech when you have to go to moderation because of these threats. The depths they attempt to pull us down to when they can’t handle certain facts….we all lose.
It re-enforces my earlier comment, the need for change is now.
My guess is that gay right bloggers like Eric have a much more difficult time.
I get the odd nasty comment, but usually from a gay liberal who is outraged that I’m a Conservative, not Conservatives who are outraged that I’m gay. Check out this post for an example:
http://diogenesborealis.blogspot.com/2008/11/hell-hath-no-fury-like-gay-liberal.html
For the most part, Conservatives have been very decent, respectful and willing to debate, even when we disagree on issues like gay marriage. You’re a good example, Joanne.
However, I can’t understand how his blondness, could find the cash to clean up after monument of stupidity, but has to cancel Canada Day.
Honesty is always the best policy. Canada Day events were not cancelled due to cash shortages, they were cancelled because of the strike. Toronto did not pay to clean up the Pride Parade, Pride did.
Short and sweet and truthful. Proboably won't make it through the filter though.
Good job, Joanne.
Like Bubba Brown, I’ll be writing my MP, who isn’t NDP. (Isn’t Jack Layton an embarassment)
East of Eden has it straight, no pun intended!
Thank you Eric. I appreciate that clarification.
And I very much enjoy the quiet, dignified, yet forceful way you put your point across.
Which is why I nominated you for best gay blog last time around.
Proboably won’t make it through the filter though.
It did after I fixed up your terrible italics coding. I left the typo though.
Joanne@ #20
Ya I knew it wasn’t Éric(but Eric)so an error on my part. Thanks.
As the father of a grown gay son, I have attended Pride with my wife and other children for years. It reminds us how lucky we are that our son lives in a country where he will not be persecuted for his sexuality, something that he has no control over. It wasn’t that long ago that gay men in Toronto were beaten and left for dead in the streets. I’m glad my boy is free to be open about his sexuality.
Many of the people who attend Pride are just like me, normal Canadians who enjoy a great party and live to spend time with their family.
If you ask me, the $400,000 is well-spent in Toronto. This weekend fills the streets, shops, hotels and restaurants.
The feds give money to promote all kinds of cultural events. Many of these events do not appeal to all Canadians but they have value nonetheless.
re: the pics. of Mr. Ignatieff.
He may have been courting votes but the outfit screams grey…to match his doom and gloom message. I was in Toronto yesterday and it was hot, & muggy. I guess Iggy’s been away from Canada for so long he forgot that we have this thing called “summer” which means you can shed the shirt and sweater.
Doesn’t fool anyone.
Stephen, thanks for your comment. So what do you think about the nudity?
Stephen said: @ #51
“The feds give money to promote all kinds of cultural events. Many of these events do not appeal to all Canadians but they have value nonetheless.”
Bang on..
I have never been to the pride parade(just not my cup of tee), but I love the Just for laughs festevel in Monteral, and I really want to go to the Calgary Stanpede. Which all recieved money under the “Marquee Tourism Events Program”.
Which frankly, is a great program from the Government.
Just a heads up for everyone. The cancelled fireworks at Ashbridges Bay are indeed going to be going on. I can’t remember the name of the school, but the property has been rented and holds about 10,000 people. As the school is not designated city property, the fireworks can go ahead, with the custodial staff and people from the group putting on the fireworks doing the cleanup after.
I’ll see if I can find the name of the school and post it later.
By the way, I agree with Stephen. Although I would never attend the parade, I do think it’s money well spent in that the city, province, and federal government all profit from tax revenues and user fees from the event.
It makes far more sense than paying millions to have a Canadian flag hung at sporting events in Quebec.
I have a wonderful twenty-five year old nephew, who lives with his partner in Calgary. When he was a teen, I suspected he was gay but he didn’t come out to my brother and sister-in-law until he was nearly twenty.
And, when he did, it made no difference whatsoever to any of us because we all love him. In fact, it only clarified what I already guessed. How? He had lots of girlfriends but they were always buddies.
The main thing the whole family cares about is that he is an absolutely terrific person — warm, affectionate, motivated, an achiever and dignified.
Meaning, he doesn’t go around nude or flaunting his sexuality as if he has something to prove. He is just an all around great guy who has gone back to school to work on master’s degree.
But, I will say this, you learn a lot when you find out a close family member is homosexual. It changes everything because in the final analysis, their sexual preference means nothing.
But, while I can see my nephew and his partner having a good time at a gay-pride parade, I can’t see him taking part in “some” of what we saw yesterday — pornography in motion.
In my opinion, gays need to be able to separate their pride at being gay to what is appropriate public behaviour.
In other words, criticizing the pornography in motion is not being anti-gay any more than if we criticised some heterosexual males for doing the same thing.
Just my opinion.
paulsstuff said: @ 56
“It makes far more sense than paying millions to have a Canadian flag hung at sporting events in Quebec.”
C0-Sign..
Well said Sandy.
Ya know everytime I log on here I learn something, some times a lot of things. Great posts today thanks J-dot for putting the rules up there. I get the what and why a Take care folks. whole lot better now, as far as what this actually brings into the community, still not my cup of tea …but it doesn’t have to be does it? Enjoy the day sunny here I am gonna go sit and have a cold one in the backyard. BTW classy blog Eric.
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What do you mean Bubba?
Hi Joanne,
I just did an edit on Morgentaler at Wikipedia,
cheers
“I’m going to apply for funds to hold a parade in Toronto for straight female bloggers.”
Following non-Conservative logic, I would say that Joanne hates straight male bloggers. LOLOL.
Stephen – well said. Your son is fortunate to have you as his father. I wish more people were like you.
Sandy – what a heartwarming comment.
I have a number of male friends who happen to be gay – I put it that way to indicate a distinction between gay men and men who are gay. My friends are the latter.
Maz2 – The comment you just left is a bit too controversial to publish. Interesting though.
Joanne @ #75.
See comment here:
“Reader Tips”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/011734.html#comments
Let me give the facts how it all shook down.
Jumping Jack goes to PMSH and cries that he will support the Libs if Stevie and the CPC do not give money to the parade.
I think we now have the answer to what Olivia is waving in the photo.
That controversial stuff by Raphael confirms the contention that the *** industry with its promo parade is a business just as the ***** ***** parade is a promo for the retail business.
The word “shakedown” with its connotation of criminality is reserved though for the *** parade and not for the ***** ***** parade.
After all, Santa Claus has become a shakedown also, no? when the “liberals” outlaw Jesus and Mary in the ***** ***** parade.
lol! Maz2. Point made.
“Raphael has a thought-provoking post up on the topic of public nudity in the Pride Parade”
Unfortunately, Raph’s “thought-provoking” post contains some factual errors, which are pointed out in the comments.
His claims of “criminal acts” are pretty thoroughly debunked, and he has misquoted one section of the CCC. Not to mention ignoring case law entirely on the subject.
Not Raph’s usual standard; he really dropped the ball on this one.
Here’s the distinction the rabid overlook when they start screaming obscenities over what they have been trained to believe is a phobia.
The “celebration” is supposed to be about the contribution the community has made to society, you know made the world a better place. It should not be used as an excuse to discriminate against those that refuse to participate
[...] you see the mayor at Willow Park [if he is back from Toronto that is] , ask him whether he is worried about the loss of business in [...]
The Homosexual Agenda.
“In December 2006, the Zapatero government announced that homosexual “diversity” training would be mandatory in all schools. Also known as “Citizenship Education,” the new program requires that children from the age of nine be taught that homosexuality is the moral and physical equivalent of true marriage. It also includes lessons on “moral pluralism,” which argues that the Judeo-Christian concept of moral absolutes is inherently intolerant. Although many parents conscientiously object to what they say is a “totalitarian” move by the state to usurp the right of parents to determine the moral education of their children, the Spanish Supreme Court in January 2009 ruled that course is indeed obligatory for all children.”
“Spain Deconstructs the Traditional Family
Spaniards are currently debating a controversial plan by Socialist Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero to liberalize the country’s abortion law. The new measure would obligate the public healthcare system to provide free abortions without any restrictions for women 16 years and over up to the 14th week of pregnancy, and up to 22 weeks if there is a risk to the mother’s health or if the foetus is deformed. Women can also undergo the procedure after 22 weeks if doctors certify that the foetus has a serious deformity or incurable illness.
The new bill would reform the present law, passed in 1985, which legalizes abortion only for certain restricted cases: up to 12 weeks of pregnancy in cases of rape, up to 22 weeks in the case of severe foetal malformation, and at any point if a doctor certifies that the pregnancy represents a threat to the physical or mental health of the mother.
The Zapatero government says the new law is groundbreaking in Spain because it regards abortion as a right, not a crime. Equality Minister Bibiana Aído says that with the new law, “no woman will go to jail for interrupting her pregnancy.” In actual practice, however, abortion is already essentially legal on demand in Spain because the existing law is not enforced. According to the Spanish Ministry of Health, the number of abortions has more than doubled in the past decade, reaching a record-high 112,138 abortions in 2007 (the latest year for which official data is available), or more than 300 every day. At the current rate, one out of every five pregnancies in Spain will end in abortion by 2010. By some estimates, that would rank Spain as having one of the highest abortion rates in Europe.”
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3990
I just knew that the PM or a minister did not give 400,000 to Miller or anyone for the Pride Parade. As explained above, it come from a tourist fund. Now the requirements for that fund must be changed to deny funds if there will be nudity or any pornographic exhibits. Simple. Sometimes it is the wording in an application that makes a difference. Years ago, a local rodeo association applied for a grant to help stage the yearly event. Denied as rodeo was not considered a cultural event. I told them they didn’t use the right wording. So they told me, if you’re so smart, redo it. I did, and instead of using rodeo I used the words equestrian events, to display the talents of performers of all ages.( And it was not a rodeo, but a cutting horse competition they applied for.) Grant received. You just have to play the game, and the Pride committee did.
But this is a perfect example of how the news can be twisted. To all those upset conservatives who say they will stay home and not vote. Think what that will do, if you elect a liberal government.
Bravo, MaryT!
That was the best weaseling I’ve seen yet on this topic.
PS: It was the feds who gave the money, and last I checked the CPC was running the federal government.