As the rooftops in North Bay patiently await the arrival of Santa Claus spring:
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Update
The next pic is from a relative in North Bay: 
He quips, “Delayed plans to get the “lawn” cut today. Tomorrow it will be June. I suppose the black flies will be held up a few days.”
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And here is the view from Bluetech’s backyard:
She writes, “This is what my flowering crab and lilacs looked like at 9 a.m. today!! We are 10 minutes east of North Bay.”
It’d be lovely if the date were December 25.
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Related: Lorrie Goldstein – Cap and trade confusion
Meanwhile, Raphael doesn’t mind rubbing it in a bit all the way from the sunshine coast – With Apologies To North Bay Residents.
Well, at least the rooftops are white. The Obama administration told me that white roof tops can help fight global warming!
Snow on the Suburban this morning in Sudbury and continues to snow at this writing. Family very discouraged.
Ha Ha – the whole of Central Alberta was under a Frost Warning last night…emphasis on the “bull”, Joanne.
Some of my trees and shrubs have not even fully leafed out yet – in three weeks it is the longest day and we begin the down hill slide back to winter.
Many parts of the southern hemisphere have had unusually hot summers for the last several years. Does this prove that the globe is warming? I’d bet you’d say no. Ok. But if you aren’t willing to accept global warming based on the fact that it’s been hotter than usual on much of the planet over the last decade, you certainly shouldn’t point to a cool spring in your own (relatively speaking) backyard as proof that it isn’t.
I remember a few weeks ago a Blogging Tory had a post up about Al Gore buying a waterfront property recently. It was newsworthy because the property was in an area where Gore keeps stating sea levels will rise and flood that coast.
Doesn’t that mean even Al Gore doesn’t believe what he says?
Yeah that “white rooftop” thing coming from Obama’s energy secretary was nuts. Also, they want to make highways a lighter colour as well.
Nuts! As in Freakin’ Nuts!
Actually Peter the global mean temperature has been going down over the last decade.
You might be interested to know how much big business manipulation is taking place in the AGW debate check out Lawrence Solomon’s articles in the Financial Post. There is a link up at SDA.
Been the best weekend of the summer out here on the WC. Was at Disneyland CA a week ago and the restaurant had the propane heaters on at night.
The globe “may be” warming BUT is it because of “man’s” activity? Peter indicated that the southern hemisphere has been hotter, could that be a naturally occurring phenomenon? Tell me about “average temperatures” and how you calculate them.
Actually Peter I base my opinions of global warming on facts I learned while doing a thesis recently in college.
Many prominent scientists now say we have begun a global cooling period. Many scientists have discounted global warming due to the fact most of the data used to prove global warming was only based on the past 1000 years, when in fact climate change periods are done in tens of thousands of years.
Also, the average global temperature has actually decreased in the past number of years, not increased. Man-made ghg accounts for only 3% of the total in the atmosphere. Canada’s total emissions account for only 2% of worldwide emissions.
China’s increase in emissions, only the increase, was more than Canada’s total emissions. China has plans for over 500 coal-fired plants, with roughly one per week comiing on-line. Much of the money to build those plants was supposd to come from countries like Canada under Kyoto.
I’m still waiting for one person to explain to me how sending money to China or India under Kyoto, when said money will be used for ghg emitting plants, will save the planet.
Al Gore knows how to get a good deal – push the new swamp-to-be, then buy in !
what a fruitcake
Peter, where did you get the information that it has “been hotter than usual on much of the planet over the last decade”
From two terrestrial and two satellite temperature measurements from the last decade the temperature increased 0.1 deg C +/- 0.14 deg C.
Temperature Link
If you look at the graph, the trend for the last decade has been cooling since 1998 peak. Yet the CO2 levels went up. Things that make you go hmmm…
CO2 Link
It’s sure funny how the temperatures on Earth and Mars rose until about 1998 then started into the current continuing decline that we have now. No, it’s gotta be all man made, nothing to do with the sun at all, aren’t there SUV’s on Mars too?
Al Gore and all of his enablers should be tried for fraud, the money made from this fraud should be seized and thrown them all in jail for a very long time.
“From the mid 1600s to early 1700s, a period of very low sunspot activity (known as the Maunder Minimum) coincided with a number of long winters and severe cold temperatures in Western Europe, called the Little Ice Age.”
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fsd/astro/sunspots.php
“Although sunspots themselves produce only minor effects on solar emissions, the magnetic activity that accompanies the sunspots can produce dramatic changes in the ultraviolet and soft x-ray emission levels. These changes over the solar cycle have important consequences for the Earth’s upper atmosphere.”
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml
In the radio report, Osgood reveals that “the sun is the dimmest it’s been in nearly a century” and noted that previous quiet sun periods have “led to a mini-Ice Age here on Earth.” Osgood even admonished himself for questioning man-made warming fears by declaring “Hush, Child! You’re not even supposed to suggest that.”
http://westwoodone.com/pg/jsp/osgood/transcript.jsp?pid=26416
Off topic, godd article by Ian MacDonald;
http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/fp/Outrage+deficit+figure+pure+political+posturing/1648031/story.html
Re – Peter #4
1. Hot where in the SH? Unusually cool in South Africa, Southern South America, NZ, Tasmania, South Australia, and the South Pole… Really
2. Not just cool, snow is not melting, and snow is still falling in much of NA…. Really
3. Snow arrived early to Australia and New Zealand… Really
For years, skeptics of global warming have used satellite and weather balloon data to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn’t really happening.
Now, according to three new studies published in the journal ‘Science’, it turns out those conclusions based on satellite and weather balloon data were based on faulty analyses.
The atmosphere is indeed warming, not cooling as the data previously showed.
While surface thermometers have clearly shown that the Earth’s surface is warming, satellite and weather balloon data have actually suggested the opposite, that the atmosphere was cooling.
Scientists were left with two choices: either the atmosphere wasn’t warming up, or something was wrong with the data.
“But most people had to conclude, based on the fact that there were both satellite and balloon observations, that it really wasn’t warming up,” said Steven Sherwood, a geologists at Yale University and lead author of one of the studies.
Oops!
Sherwood examined weather balloons known as radiosondes, which are capable of making direct measurements of atmospheric temperatures.
For the past 40 years, radiosonde temperature data have been collected from around the world twice each day, once during the day and once at night.
But while nighttime radiosonde measurements were consistent with climate models and theories showing a general warming trend, daytime measurements actually showed the atmosphere to be cooling since the 1970’s.
Sherwood explains these discrepancies by pointing out that the older radiosonde instruments used in the 1970’s were not as well shielded from sunlight as more recent models. What this means as that older radiosondes showed warmer temperature readings during the day because they were warmed by sunlight.
“It’s like being outside on a hot day—it feels hotter when you are standing in the direct sun than when you are standing in the shade,” Sherwood said.
Nowadays, radiosondes are better insulated against the effects of sunlight, but if analyzed together with the old data—which showed temperatures that were actually warmer than they really were—the overall effect looked like the troposphere was cooling.
The discrepancy between surface and atmospheric measurements has been used by for years by skeptics who dispute claims of global warming.
“Now we’re learning that the disconnect is more apparent than real,” said Ben Santer, an atmospheric scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and a lead author of another of the studies.
Argument evaporates
According to Santer, the only group to previously analyze satellite data on the troposphere — the lowest layer in Earth’s atmosphere — was a research team headed by Roy Spencer from University of Alabama in 1992.
“This was used by some critics to say ‘We don’t believe in climate models, they’re wrong,’” Santer told LiveScience. “Other people used the disconnect between what the satellites told and what surface thermometers told us to argue that the surface data were wrong and that earth wasn’t really warming because satellites were much more accurate.”
The Alabama researchers introduced a correction factor to account for drifting in the satellites used to sample Earth’s daily temperature cycles.
But in another Science paper published today, Carl Mears and Rank Wentz, scientists at the California-based Remote Sensing Systems, examined the same data and identified an error in Spencer’s analysis technique.
After correcting for the mistake, the researchers obtained fundamentally different results: whereas Spencer’s analysis showed a cooling of the Earth’s troposphere, the new analysis revealed a warming.
Using the analysis from Mears and Wentz, Santer showed that the new data was consistent with climate models and theories.
“When people come up with extraordinary claims — like the troposphere is cooling — then you demand extraordinary proof,” Santer said. “What’s happening now is that people around the world are subjecting these data sets to the scrutiny they need.”
H/T to SDA;
An internal Enron memo, sent from Kyoto by John Palmisano, a former Environmental Protection Agency regulator who had become Enron’s lead lobbyist as senior director for Environmental Policy and Compliance, describes the historic corporate achievement that was Kyoto.
“If implemented this agreement will do more to promote Enron’s business than will almost any other regulatory initiative outside of restructuring of the energy and natural-gas industries in Europe and the United States,” Polisano began. “The potential to add incremental gas sales, and additional demand for renewable technology is enormous.”
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/05/30/lawrence-solomon-enron-s-other-secret.aspx
Gore gets a cold shoulder
Steve Lyttle
October 14, 2007
“The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures,” Dr Gray said.
He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science.
“It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong,” he said. “But they also know that they’d never get any grants if they spoke out. I don’t care about grants.”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/gore-gets-a-cold-shoulder/2007/10/13/1191696238792.html
I’m in the process of sending pix to you of our lovely snowfall this a.m….but having ’server problems’ since the power was out for 3 hours.We suspect the heaviness of the snow snapped some power lines.
My lilacs and and flowering crab, heavy with snow, are much prettier than those buildings in North Bay covered in snow.I think we got more, being 12 km. out of the city.
We had about 3 inches.
That sucks. It’s been so nice in Vancouver for the past several weeks, and the last week has been cloudless and sunny and warm. In fact it’s been so warm here that we have to wear sunscreen and find cool shade at high noon. So whatever global warming is doing in Sudbury and North Bay, it sure ‘aint doing it here. But then again, I’ll take my global warming weather here any day.
Peter, Ben Santer is as big a fraud as Al Gore.
Just because someone’s article is published in a magazine does not make the theory of AGW a reality. Glo-Bull Warming is nothing but out and out fraud.
Follow the money or do you believe in fairy tales?
Is your last name Pan?
Main Stream Media, aka MSM, is complicit in the AGW criminal fraud.
May the MSM die a thousand deaths.
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“Media Myth: Networks Ignore Trillion-Dollar Price Tag of Climate Cap Bill
Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade bill leaves committee while ABC, CBS, NBC remain silent.
The media love to fret over global warming, but now that a trillion-dollar scheme to address global warming could be just around the corner the networks have been curiously quiet.
On May 21, the House Energy and Commerce Committee passed a bill to cap carbon emissions and create an artificial trading market. The network news media didn’t mention it, but critics say the legislation would be a “huge threat to American prosperity and freedom.”
The Heritage Foundation estimates that this bill, known as Waxman-Markey, would cost $9.6 trillion in GDP loss and over a million jobs by 2035, but the network news media ignored the bill and almost never explained the cap-and-trade policy it seeks to enact.
ABC, CBS and NBC didn’t mention passage of the Waxman-Markey bill or discuss cap-and-trade over Memorial Day weekend, despite a global summit about climate change that took place in Copenhagen May 24-26. That summit was in preparation for a December U.N. convention to create a global plan of action regarding climate change.
The three networks have mentioned cap-and-trade in only 13 stories between Jan. 20 and May 25 even though it is a top priority for Obama, who said in November “few challenges” are “more urgent than combating climate change.” Nearly all (9 out of 13) instances were on the Sunday talk shows which have much smaller audiences than evening newscasts.”
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090527141451.aspx
Two must read books, Meltdown – The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by Scientists, Politicians and the Media”, by Patrick J. Michaels, and Red Hot Lies – How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud and Deception to Keep You Misinformed”, by Christopher Horner.
Whatever one thinks they know about climate change isn’t worth spit until they read these two books.
IMHO, if there’s any justice left in this world at all, the instigators of this scam will end up doing serious time in prisons for fraud, conspiracy and sedition that have caused the waste of countless billions of dollars worldwide, potentially ruining millions of lives, most notably in third world poverty and disease stricken nations.
The way this summer is going I wonder if I’ll be able to plant a garden at all. Usually, I plant around mid-May and even then the growing season is too short. After the winter we had, and now this cold spring, people in Wpg. are awfully grouchy. I was talking to a woman who runs a local produce store, and she said she’s really worried because by now they should have their peas and beans planted.
As far as global cooling goes, there’s a really good site called iceagenow.com
Bluetech @18 – Thx for the pics. I’m working on trying to post one of them.
Yes…the good news:
NO BLACKFLIES!!!
Peter…
It’s big biz, no more, no less. When you start to dig down into exactly who is pimping this garbage, and what’s in it for them, it becomes crystal clear in a real big hurry.
As I wrote here…
There are even more billions at risk to corporate interests who have invested heavily in alternate energies and so-called “green” technologies. But more to the point, there are billions worth of “carbon credits” to be brokered between both industry and governments worldwide…with the usual commissions to be collected on both the sale and purchase thereof. (See Al Gore and/or Maurice Strong)
Ah, yes! That mystical “carbon credit”, based upon something you can’t see or touch, estimated by mathematical and theoretical formulas you can’t begin to comprehend, tracked through book keeping entries you’ll never see, trading for sums of money you can’t relate to…often your tax money…to far away lands to be spent, again theoretically (meaning when pigs fly), on “green” stuff. Recent audits, if even at all in the first place manageable, are…no big surprise here…proving that tons of that dough could be ending up just about anywhere, being spent on just about anything. Use your imagination, and don’t hold back, either.
Meanwhile, sufficiently guilt burdened passengers (meaning suckers) line up at vending machines in airports to buy “carbon offsets” before they board their next flight. Who wouldn’t want a piece of that action, eh? Great gig, if you can land it.
Wake up as smell the proverbial coffee, Peter. All you’re doing is allowing yourself to be mouthpiece for people who have their eye on kabillions of dollars worth of grants, freebies, and biz.
They love people like you, don’t kid yourself.
o.k. I’ve got one of your pics up, Bluetech.
Peter, it’s wonderful you can copy and paste something to bolster your argument. I can do the same 1000 times over. I just finished a six-month course on globull warming, and that is not a typo. it’s the title of my final paper.
In a class of 26, roughly two-thirds believed in global warming when we started. When I finished my presentation at the end of semester that number dropped to one, the professor.
The problem with the material you referenced is this. It does not account for solar flare activity, it simply assumes that CO2 is responsible for any change in temperature. It does not account for temperature data from more than 1000 years ago. It has changed the tools for measuring climate whcih in itself poisons the data. In order to have a reliable study model, you cannot change instruments used in gathering data and then try to account for the changes and effects with any type of certainty.
Congrats paulstuff!
That is quite a success story!
And it is proof that people can decide when the truth is presented, instead of being fed misleading 10 second sound bites from the media.
Will you be published?!
It always baffles me why some people are so quick to jump on a hysterical bandwagon, then cling to it no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.
Are they hoping for disaster or what?
Be happy there is no global warming! Celebrate it! Why continue to hope for the worst??
It really is an ideology/religion of wealth redistribution/punish the wealthy countries with cap and trade, etc. Maybe that’s why they don’t want to give it up.
Will you be published?!
Yes, that would be good to know. Is some of it available on your blog?
I never thought of that Joanne. Might just do that.
I think what changed minds was all the examples I cited where supposedly solid proof of AGW was discounted, and in most cases tye scientists in question had to admit their data was not credible. I gave about 10 examples, then asked the class why they would need to fudge data if the science was proven.
As part of my presentation I also ran that George Carlin YouTube video on global warming. Most of the students were to young to ven know who Carlin was, but the way Carlin explains it really puts it in an easy perspective to understand. Here is a link for the video. Be warned there is some swearing in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbFD4NC60EA
Peter the funniest part of what you are asserting is the ’sole source’ cause of global warming. Temperatures on earth tend to move around a lot. Fossil records show various life forms living in various places where they could not possibly live today. Dinosaurs and huge trees in the high arctic for example. Since fluctuations in temperature is the norm and not the exception why should we attribute temperature fluctuations to man generated CO2?
I never thought of that Joanne. Might just do that.
Please let us know if you post it, Paul.
Great viddy, BTW.
I completely agree with paulsstuff. At the beginning, human influenced global warming seemed plausible. As it became more political and less scientific, I began to have doubts. Since then, global warming has turned into climate change and every occurrence on earth is blamed on CO2. The solution is always more money and fewer rights/choices. The agenda is entirely top driven by those that will benefit from it financially or ideologically. The middle-class will lose big and see no benefits.
The problem is that people have become desensitized to the hysteria, other concerns are looming and the environment now polls near the bottom. Those that follow the issue more closely note that the models and forecast are ever-changing and always wrong. Scientists are voicing their skepticism and their ranks are growing. As the momentum shifts, the promoters have resorted to absurd claims and solutions:
-preventing debate by insisting the science is settled (no honest scientist would ever say that about such a new area of study)
-insist that we have only a short time to make radical changes (a very common high-pressure sales technique)
-threaten to jail deniers and unrepentant polluters
-muse about the need for radical population control
-suggest seeding the atmosphere with soot and relocating wildlife.
-scare and indoctrinate young children
-encourage spying and ratting out eco-criminal neighbors
-legislating a buffet of new taxes and regulations that will tax individuals and “dirty” but essential industries to the breaking point.
Frankly, the true believers and profiteers have become frightening and even borderline fascists.
Science..what science? This is just politics, big business, science grant windfalls and the ravings of agenda driven activists. The only real threat to humans is the unchecked continuation of this madness.
Paul – I so agree with you. This whole business of giving money to the biggest polluters makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Canada is one of the “cleanest” countries. Asia is the biggest polluter and, I believe, doing the planet more harm in one year than Canada does in ten years.
One of my buddies camped in Algonquin Park – I met up with him in Renfrew and he said that it snowed for an hour this morning. He showed me the pics he took – heavy snow. I was in Golden Lake – it was plus 3 and raining. On the way back, I hit snow near Eganville. Yup, this old planet sure is warming up. We’ve had a few frost warnings lately, as well. It’s May 31 and I had the heat on in my car when I was on the highway.
Al Gore pre-global warming hysteria net worth-$2 million
Al Gore post-global warming hysteria net-worth $100 million
It was discovered Gore was using in excess of 20 times an average families KwH in his Nashville home. When confronted, Gore stated that there were some problems and that he had done green renovations since that bill.
A check 2 months later found Gore’s hydro consumption had actually increased after said green improvements.
A great fisk of a TO Star article on..
..you guessed it…
Glo Bull Warming.
http://canadianbluelemons.blogspot.com/
Paul – even elementary education in the ’60s taught me that climate and weather are two different things. One is more variable than the other.
When I was in high school we were being warned and scared to death of the another impending ice-age. Wrong….again.
Why should be believe environmentalists now? It’s all speculation…it can only be thus.
As a child of the ’60s I’m doing my duty and questioning authority and environmentalists.
Yes…the good news:
NO BLACKFLIES!!!
Bluetech, another advantage of the snow is that you can’t see the
dandelionsMcGuintys!Joanne – Great topic. In fact, I was actually in the North Bay area with some buddies on a little fishing adventure this past week.
Needless to say we froze our a**es off! I am still trying to get rid of the chill. and that was BEFORE the ’snow event’ of the last 36 hours or so. We also didn’t catch many fish, as they tend to go dormant when conditions are colder than historical norms for the season.
Like Now. Duh !
… case in point. Normal high for North Bay on May 31st. 21C. Today 6C.
Geez give me a break ‘global warming nut cakes’.
oh and Paulstuff – great posts and congrats on your work on this subject. I also loved the George Carlin vid. thanks for the link. hadn’t seen that one before.
Stay warm folks … put an extra blanket on tonight, but whatever you do DON’T TOUCH THAT THERMOSTAT … THEY are watching (and monitoring). gotta save some kwatts for good old Al and the boys.
Joanne, tsk, tsk, tsk.
I thought we all agreed they were to be referred to as McGuintys from now on.
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Paul @ #42. Duly noted & corrected.
Hey, that’s a huge advantage!