And we will do everything in our power to ensure that you don’t hear anything to the contrary.
(H/T Stephen Taylor)
And BTW, I agree with Stephen that ‘jckirlan’ wins the thread:
“…and he will move it 1, 2, ,4, 5, 6, 7,8, 9,10 degrees to the right”
Oh, I see why they call him the Count now.
Update: First out of the gate and Paulsstuff already wins this thread:
And my guess is if Iggy loses the next election:
“… he will move it 1, 2, ,4, 5, 6, 7,8, 9,10 degrees to the south”
10 degrees south of Toronto, which would put him somewhere near Harvard.
Paulsstuff has another zinger at Ardvark’s which is also related to a Liberal attempt to shut down truth ads.
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Related:
From the BT Forum by ‘Cosmostein’:
Why is it when the Liberals were doing such an effective job with the pre-election ads that attempted to character assassinate Stockwell Day and then in 2003 with Stephen Harper and the “Privatize Heatlhcare” Ads it was acceptable and good practice.
Now that the tables are turned and two Liberal leaders have been targeted successfully the Liberals take issue with it?
Its amazing a few months ago a coalition was being formed in order to stop an economic update that would harm the Liberal Party by taking away tax dollars from funding political parties yet here we are with the tables turned and the Liberals using a bill as a means to harm the Conservatives…
Yeah, but we’re talking about the self-proclaimed Natural Governing Party here. They are entitled to do whatever it takes to get back into power.
Liberal party hubris & projection – Crux of the Matter
So called Tory ‘negative ads’ are dead on – Claire Hoy
And my guess is if Iggy loses the next election:
“… he will move it 1, 2, ,4, 5, 6, 7,8, 9,10 degrees to the south”
10 degrees south of Toronto, which would put him somewhere near Harvard.
We have to keep the truth ads flowing, the Count is providing them, the latest being “We created the country you live in. Never forget it”.
The liberals realize we have a hot line to the fodder straight from the proverbial horse’s mouth.
That folks is what’s got the Liberals all in a tizzy. Even a Liberal Senator trying to put an end to such ads entirely. Need any more proof THEY WORK?
O.K. Paulsstuff. I acclaim you the ‘winner’ of this thread already! Nothing could top that.
Funny how when in the US he tells Americans it’s their country,
‘just as much as it is his’.
But in Canada,
Canada belongs to a political party, not it’s people.
So Iffy is saying,
without the ‘institution’ called the Liberal Party of Canada,
there would be no Canada.
“We created the country you live in. Never forget it”.
But you can be sure, when he talks to Native groups, Iffy will tell them “you created the country we live in”
And when Iffy talks to immigrant groups he tell them “you created the country we live in”
And when Iffy talks to Quebecers he will tell them “you created the country we live in”
Note to Iffy:
Canada belongs to her people,
not a political party.
I suspect a bit of reality finally kicked into Iggy’s arrogant head, “let’s go to the polls on EI”. Your pack of morons created the mess.
What an idiot.
Wilson was quite correct, Canada belongs to her people, Go back to Harvard Iggy, pout down there about whats going on.
Personally I’m already tired of you.
A Count who can count….what a delicious irony. Upper Canada College should be proud that one of its prize students finally masters the first grade graduation requirements.
“We created the country you live in, never forget it!” – Blue Thunder facts would take issue with that suggestion.
Hard to tell whether Iggy’s talking to Americans or Canadians. With so many publications and writings you don’t suppose that Michael is borrowing language from his own work do you?
STEVEN CHASE
Globe and Mail
February 5, 2009
‘OTTAWA — Just days after his $40-billion stimulus budget passed its first test in Parliament,
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty is coming under pressure from the Liberal Opposition to offer more rescue spending as the economic downturn deepens and job losses pile up.
John McCallum, the Liberal finance critic and a senior member of Leader Michael Ignatieff’s policy team,
told reporters he’s worried Ottawa may need to come up with
a second stimulus package
before Parliament breaks in June…
He said there’s growing evidence the economy is worsening beyond expectations and that the amount of stimulus in the Jan. 27 budget is less than advertised…
Some extra stimulus will be spent automatically if the economy worsens because employment insurance payouts, for example,
will increase without the government needing to do anything.
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:gP-RXH9Z_XoJ:www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090205.wPOLpage0205/BNStory/politics/%3Fcid%3Dal_gam_mostdiscuss+budget+passed,+second+stimulus+package&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca
sorry for the long link, only available thru cache.
ooops….wrong button.
Actually when you think about it taking the country 10 degrees to the right…isn’t that right at all. It’s actually a comfortable place to be.
I don’t think it’s insulting or problematic at all….except that Mr. Ignatieff’s trying to impress the non-academics at this rally I suppose.
I only WISH we could move the country further to the right. Problem is, the pendulum has swung so far to the left since 1968 that even at a few degrees to the right, we’d still be considered a centre-left country.
Sheeeeesh.
When Iffy says this “with no hint of arrogance”, he’s lying through his teeth. He exudes arrogance. That doesn’t play well with ordinary Canadians. Oh yes, maybe in latte urbania it does, but not with real people.
Question why is not our Prime Minister Stephen Harper moving 11 degrees to the right?
To my way of thinking it’s because Mr Ignatiff only has 10 fingers!LOL
What an arrogant a**hole “we created the Country you live in” what exactly did he and the Lieberano Party become “devine”?
Mr Ignatiff was for the budget, only not enough was being spent, fast enough, he wants to give E I to anyone for 45 days work, for nearly a year. How much will that add to the debt? We don’t need Ad’s just let this Idiot keep talking.
You cannot go wrong when you tell the truth!! On the other hand, if you lie, you must cover the lie with more lies. Keep it up, Liberals, you’re showing your true colors!!
““We created the country you live in…”
Spoken by a guy who has been out of the country for over 30 years!!
Where are all the polls?
There shud be polls galore after the truth ads were released, and all we got were 2 Quebec polls showing no change for Cons,
and one national poll showing Cons on top again.
The American leader of the LPC seems to have decided to vote non-confidence in the government.
Doesn’t matter what the effect on the economy and all those ‘most vulnerable’ will be.
Iffy again choses party over country (coaliton of losers),
he doesn’t want to look like a whimp anymore.
Ego speaks.
[...] hear the hubris from Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff’s own mouth, drop by either Blue Like You or Stephen Taylor’s sites and watch the video they have in which Mr. Ignatieff says: [...]
“1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10″
I see that Ignatieff is showing off for the voters again.
Liberals are just unable to contain their arrogance. To them, dictates from Ottawa take on physical form and then miraculously create glorious monuments all by themselves. The “little” people of Canada, the laborers and entrepreneurs, are invisible.
Just imagine what a horrible place Canada would have become without the Liberals patiently guiding us. Surely this gives them license to not only rule Canada but also justifies their agenda of being the natural governing party that controls each and every Canadians day-to-day decisions.
My daughter just said that Mr. Ignatieff may be preparing for his next dalliance and auditioning for Sesame Street.
I’m pretty sure though that Sesame Street already has it’s own “Count” — too bad Mike that job’s taken.
Liberals so conveniently forget who Canada’s first Prime Minister was and that railway that was built that tied this country together.
You have a very perceptive daughter, CC.
Soccermom said
“When Iffy says this ‘with no hint of arrogance’, he’s lying through his teeth.”
I agree. I loath that fake modesty which is really an insult to the receiver in disguise.
To paraphrase Rochefoucauld “false humility is the worst form of conceit”
Bec, I left a question for you at “Quebec Conundrum Part Deux” post #90.
In question period right now Harper is upsmacking the Count. Beautiful
Paul Martin is on Power Play today.
Let’s ask Tom Clark to ‘drill down’ into the $54 Billion EI surplus being
1. illegal taxation without representation and 2. what would have those ‘liberal surplus’ been without the raiding of the EI fund
anyone have Power Play email address?
only one listed is news@ctv.ca
Tom Clark, I want to know
Without the $54 Billion in extra (illlegal) EI premiums collected in the years 2002 thru 2005,
it appears the Chretien/Martin governments would have been in deficit, not surplus. Yes or no?
Was the 2005 $13 Billion surplus, inherited by the Harper government, a result of the illegal EI premiums collected?
In other words, without the EI surplus going into general revenues, wouldn’t Paul Martin have left a deficit, not a surplus in 2005?
Too bad the Count can not count to 12.
If he could, maybe we could find out who the 12 Liberal candidates were, that Cote confessed to slipping $120,000.00 of stolen taxpayer money to.
Wilson, someone who sends me copies of his emails to various pundits uses this one for Tom Clark: tclark@ctv.ca
He said that he’s never received a reply, but it hasn’t bounced back.
Dillon, I saw that too. I especially loved Flaherty’s comeback to Ralph Goodale’s. His look was priceless and I can’t do the whole thing justice but it was something about asking the NDPs questions for them (regarding bonuses for the CPP bigwigs.)
Joanne – Goodale and the Liberals in QP today stole a plank from the NDP play book.
Right from under Layton’s nose.
Could it be that’s because the Liberals have no ideas of their own, OR, is this part of the Coalition agreement – to share policy planks?
If were Layton I’d be fuming…and his head all but popped off as it was during his own questions about CPP.
wilson #24, also had the paid into the INFRASTRUCTURE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, MILITARY PROVINCES AND WHAT HAVE you, instead of taking the funds for themselves, probably there would not be a surplus.
How can a party cut funds to the important areas and call it a Surplus-not to mention, the liberals getting rich from the funds
How can they raise taxes to areas when the cut funding too.
Had the military been dealt with properly since Trudeau, by giving them up to date equipments throughtout those years; the prime minister today would not have to deal with the matter in such great numbers. In fact the bulk of the money towards the equipments would not be so high.
The LMSM like CBC CTV etc are not going to get away with it. they are going to pay for lying manipulating the public,
The CTV is campaigning for the LIBERALS WHILE THE PRIME MINISTER battles the liberals own corruption.
It looks as though the CTV CBC etc have no choice but to continue sleeping with their liberals.
Off topic, in reply Bobby then Liberal supporter Liz takes one right between the eyes, Zing!!!;
Bruce says:
May 27, 2009 at 7:58 pm
“Flaherty, as finance minister, could be making sure that everything possible is done to get the money out the door as soon as possible to get these projects moving forward. I don’t see him working this issue to make that happen.”
The budget money goes out of the door after the spending estimates are tabled and voted on at the end of June, just before the summer break. That is how it is done every year, no matter what party is in government. The only thing that would stop that money getting to the projects already approved would be if the opposition parties vote against it and we go into an election
Reply Liz says:
May 28, 2009 at 4:48 am
Another load of malarky.
Do you ever get tired, Bruce, of saying the same thing over and over again?
The budget money hasn’t got out the door.
You and Diane Finley can talk a cow onto a blue moon, and then some.
Oh right, I forgot that the $50 million to Haldimand-Finley was one of the first to start adding up to that collossal 6%.
Way to go, Canada! And you too, Bruce, presumably.
Reply Bruce says:
May 28, 2009 at 1:53 pm
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If clues were shoes you’d be barefoot.
The expenditure plans are submitted to the House in their consolidated form as the “Main Estimates”. Under normal circumstances, the Main Estimates are tabled in the House on or before March 1 for the upcoming fiscal year and submitted for concurrence by the House no later than June 23.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Sites/Compendium/web-content/c_d_financialcycle-e.htm
keith c says:
May 28, 2009 at 5:14 am
remind me of how flaherty is bad for running a bigger deficit than he forecast, but yet the solution is for him to spend more.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/05/27/actually-dont-bother-firing-jim-flaherty/comment-page-2/#comments
Nice assist from keith c!
Without the $54 Billion in extra (illlegal) EI premiums collected in the years 2002 thru 2005
They’re still be collected. Are they now legal?
They’re not being taken from the EI Fund and being put into general revenue anymore, big difference.
My understanding is that there is no such thing as an “EI fund”. The money comes, and always has, from general revenue.
I did a little research, and found there is now a “segregated EI fund”, since the 2008 budget. Not sure if all the collective surplus went back to it, after years of overfunding. But at least it’s a start. Chalk up one for the feds.
Chalk up one for the feds.
Moebius – Is that you admitting that the Harper government did something right?
There was nothing to put back in, because Chretien, Martin and the rest of the Lieberals spent it all to help create their false balanced budgets and false surpluses.
That’s right, Bruce. That revelation came out a few months ago didn’t it? It wasn’t illegal, but it was somewhat deceitful. I believe it was some union that challenged it in court.
Joanne @37
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=1061964
Change of pace: good news story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/24/susan-boyle-sings-memory_n_207237.html
Susan Boyle was born 1 April 1961 in Blackburn, West Lothian, Scotland,[14] to Patrick Boyle, a storeman at the British Leyland factory in Bathgate, and Bridget, a shorthand typist,[15] who were both Irish immigrants.[16] She was the youngest of four brothers and six sisters.[14] Born when her mother was 47,[14][17][18] Boyle was briefly deprived of oxygen during the difficult birth; she was diagnosed as having learning difficulties.[5] She says she was bullied as a child,[14][19] and was nicknamed “Susie Simple” at school.[20]
Wikipedia
Thanks Paulsstuff.
In Joanne’s post:
“So called Tory ‘negative ads’ are dead on – Claire Hoy.”
He lists all the points already made by posters on BLY. Wow, there are so many “truth ads” to use based on these points. I think getting out these truths, one at a time, to the general public will be dynamite!!
And, as others have said here, the fact that we are quoting what Iggy and the Liberals (Rae & Volpe) have said, will have an enormous impact on the general public!!
Using the KISS method, short and to the point, will have the Liberals hysterical.
And later, as Joanne pointed out in an earlier post, hit the Liberals with the facts by producing a long list of Conservative accomplishments while looking at the Liberal record.
I-Iggy is a paper pussycat: MeMeMe
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“What is funny is the gaping chasm between Michael Ignatieff’s words and his, well, total lack of real honest-to-goodness messing action.
Ignatieff says he is going to mess with Stephen Harper until Ignatieff is done. Grrrrrrrrr!
Ignatieff actually gets a lawyer to call Americans to plead that they to do his messing for him. Meow!
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“C-SPAN’s corporate vice president and general counsel, Bruce Collins, said Canada’s Liberals called to alert him to the use of copyrighted footage of leader Michael Ignatieff in a Conservative attack ad. Collins added he doesn’t believe the short segment amounts to a copyright violation.
Collins says he was contacted by a lawyer who said he was representing the Liberals after the ad came out.
“He wanted to know if we were aware if our video was being used in this way,” Collins said. “If our rights were being violated, he wanted us to enforce them.”"
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“Michael Ignatieff messes Stephen Harper up…by snitching on him…with lawyers
Michael Ignatieff is the Liberal Party’s toughest leader…ever!
Conservative ads are showing Michael Ignatieff make a heartfelt plea to Americans, claiming to be an American as he did. The clip came from C-SPAN. There is evidence to suggest that the ad is having an effect, and Michael Ignatieff won’t have any of it:
Speaking in Gander, N.L. Saturday, Ignatieff said the prime minister must learn, “If you mess with me, I will mess with you until I’m done.”
I know a lot of people giggled at the Massachusetts Mauler, but really, I was waiting to see what Michael Ignatieff had in mind. You don’t want to underestimate people.
Now we know what Michael Ignatieff had in mind. He was going to snitch on Stephen Harper. You know — squeal, tattle, rat.
Actually, Michael Ignatieff doesn’t even do his own snitching. He has lawyers who do the snitching on his behalf:”
http://stevejanke.com/archives/287877.php
I-Iggy is a bi-AmericanCanadianAmericanCanadianAmericanCan…
Is I-Iggy a rootless cosmopolitan*?
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“Just answer the question, Iggy
Why did he claim he was an American, repeatedly?”
“But there’s another element in the ads that sticks better, and may be responsible for this week’s levelling-off in Liberal support: Mr. Ignatieff’s past claims that he was an American. The ads show him in a clip: “You have to decide what kind of America you want … It’s your country just as much as it is mine.” This is not an isolated aberration. In a New York Times article just five years ago, he wrote “we,” meaning Americans, six times in a single paragraph, and throughout.
That’s pretty blatant misrepresentation and raises the question: Why did he do it, repeatedly? The answer matters to voters who have to choose.
It could be because he’s a liar or delusional – neither of which would necessarily disqualify a person from leading his country and even leading it well. But citizens have a right to know what they’re getting. Is he forgetful, or on some medication that makes him go in and out of a foreign identity?
So far, he hasn’t responded to this point in the ads.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/just-answer-the-question-iggy/article1158499/
*Rootless cosmopolitan – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rootless cosmopolitan (Russian language: безродный космополит, “bezrodniy kosmopolit”) was a Soviet euphemism introduced during Joseph Stalin’s antisemitic …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootless_cosmopolitan
Maz2 – Preppy boy tattles to the teacher.
Pathetic.
Do we need any more proof the ads are true and the truth is not positive for Iggy and the job he seeks, PM of the country he abandoned for decades?
We have a duty to keep the truth flowing. We can’t take a chance on an opportunist, a greenhorn, taking over the reins of power in this critical time.
It may be time for our PM to address the nation with a few facts concerning the economy and the deficit.
The Opposition’s pushing the government for more and more is a game to make them look like big, irresponsible spenders and weaken their Conservative base.
Ignatieff is definitely stuck in academia, some of it at the grade school level. Putting people on probation and squealing to the teacher. He has to go get an enforcer to do the job….gutless Girlie Man with little credibility. He’s in the political arena without training, firmly stuck in professorial mode, musing about possibilities with no commitment
to anything. Criticism is fine but it should come with a solution. The erstwhile prof doesn’t have anything much on that front.
I think the ads have really rattled his cage. He has become very riled up and for him to think that it wasn’t coming, is making him look extemely unprepared.
He is a lot like a bully that can dish it out but can’t take it.
He is a lot like a bully that can dish it out but can’t take it.
Bec, that’s the entire Lieberal Party and all of their supporters to a T.
Moebius – Is that you admitting that the Harper government did something right?
They’ve done lots of things right, especially in their first few years.
Unfortunately, on the big things, like corporate bailouts, which Harper strongly opposed when he was with the NCC, they’ve done lots of things wrong.
The G&M estimates jobs saved at the auto companies at a price of 1.4 million $ each (only the current price tag, which is 3 times what was originally predicted). Why not give each unemployed auto worker $700K to start a new business, invest, or retire? Still a lot cheaper.
No fiscal conservative can support this kind of spending.
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