Where exactly does Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff really stand on the export of asbestos?
In Vancouver he said:
“I’m probably walking right off the cliff into some unexpected public policy bog of which I’m unaware, but if asbestos is bad for Parliamentarians in the Parliament of Canada, it just has to be bad for everybody else,” he said. “Our export of this dangerous product overseas has got to stop.
In Ottawa, the prolific author actually rewrote history:
What I said in answer to a question is that we have an obligation to international agreements to the countries that we export to, to make them aware of the risks. That is all I said.“
Kathleen Ruff, senior adviser on human rights for the Ottawa-based think-tank Rideau Institute calls that “an out-and-out lie“.
So, what exactly will Iggy say in Quebec? [Translation]
Asbestos exports-if-necessary-but-not-necessarily-asbestos?
L. Ian MacDonald says Iggy “has what it takes, he’s just not there yet.” He sure isn’t. The Count has to start realizing that everything he says will be recorded and repeated at some future date. Contradictory statements will be juxtaposed in election campaigns.
But this asbestos gaffe isn’t mere ‘attack-ad’ fodder, my friends. This is reality.
When the CPC uses this material, it will be to plainly present THE TRUTH to Canadians.
[Photo courtesy of Dust My Broom]
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Update: H/T to Sammy in comments for this great catch by Alberta Ardvark – Brison on Ignatieff. Ouch!
And this is a MUST READ column by Dan Gardner – Michael Ignatieff’s alarming economic message:
…As negative as Ignatieff has been, elements within his party have been worse. The economy-related blog commentary of Warren Kinsella — Liberal strategist and Ignatieff adviser — is best avoided by those prone to suicidal thoughts. Still more depressing are the Internet videos which have been sprouting like daisies since Kinsella joined Team Iggy…
Hmmm. Now what exactly is Dan trying to imply, I wonder? Hmm….
The column ends with this zinger:
…To paraphrase a Liberal strategist of an earlier generation, the best political messages are those which can be read on the side of a barn as you drive by at 60 miles an hour.
So which will the politician choose? The message that’s good policy but not-so-good politics? Or the reverse?
Of course only an incurable idealist like me would even bother to ask.
“You’ll never hear me talk down the economy,” Michael Ignatieff promised. That’s true, I suppose. If we don’t listen to him.
Methinks the honeymoon is over.
Read Alberta Ardvark’s latest:Brison on Iggy!
Ignatieff’s “depends who is leader” quip makes me think that this guy is NOT a team player and was planted in the Liberal party by a specific party for a specific agenda. You know, I have no proof but my gut feeling is that Ignatieff has a hidden agenda. As I say, it is only a feeling and I have no proof because…if it was a HIDDEN agenda, I would not ahve seen it and if I had seen it, then it would NOT be hidden, any longer.
This MUST be a wake up call, to every province in this country, that this Canadian of convenience, has pandered to in the past,90+ days.
His word means absolutely, NOTHING. He has no clue about the complexities and emotions of the regions.
For the Canadian media to irresponsibly drop the ball, time after time, is beyond disgusting. Wake up tabloids and quit selling this BS!
The truth if necessary, but not necessarily the truth!
This link to a discussion in the NP regarding Iggy’s book – the Right’s Revolution leads me to believe that this is Iggy’s schitck – whenever you say something, put a caveat into it so that you can NEVER be pinned down one way or the other. Hence his most famous ” A coalition if necessary, but not necessarily a coalition”.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/12/20/the-iggy-book-club-ii-the-rights-revolution.aspx
“For every solution Ignatieff poses, there is a caveat: We must protect the rights of gay people, but that shouldn’t necessarily change the way heterosexual, married couples have been raising families for generation. We should support First Nation demands for self-government, but they must contribute to the greater good of the country, too. We should help persecuted (i.e., people not getting their human rights) around the world, but perhaps not if they don’t seem to want us to.”
This is another example of him trying to put a caveat onto one of his statements. The problem is that when you lie, you have to remember all your lies or eventually you forget what you told one side of the country while telling the opposite side of the country something different.
This is typical Liberal – say whatever would garner votes from the “crowd” (I use “crowd” loosely) in front of you.
Pamelin Wallin just called up Robert Fife live on CTV about his comment on Canada ‘backstopping’ the U.S. on Afghanistan or something to that effect. I hope we can get an online clip later.
Go Senator Wallin!!!
“Pamelin Wallin just called up Robert Fife live on CTV…”
Newsnet? Now I have to watch again? Sheesh….lol
She is so wonderful and being a brilliant,seasoned journalist,can see a trap and dish it right back!
Senator Wallin is a class act!
A decent clip on Newsnet of the BNN, interview. SLAM, DUNK!!
Do you happen to have a link, Bec?
(Or do you mean that it was a preview?) Thanks.
Lots of kudos to the ctv weatherman on his retirement after 48 yrs, and he is in the Guiness Book. So, I would like to suggest that we think of a great category for Fife, greatest liar, most biased, jounalist at ctv, and try to get him into the same book. I think we have to submit examples, but that would be easy. Mayabe ToryBoy could get a facebook going. We have two weeks with no QP so it could be fun.
Pamela Wallin is, from what I gather, a very petite woman. I have always followed the caveat: beware of small women and never mess with them – they are ferocious. Go Pamela, go.
re the Dan Gardner article in the updates
Let us not forget, while the Liberals were in power and did make sound banking decisions, they also would have spent millions on social programs, these past 3 years. Kelowna,Universal daycare,no tax cuts etc.
They also saw NONE of this coming, including their genius, 6 pack, McCallum.
To say otherwise is another smokescreen.
“(Or do you mean that it was a preview?)”
Yes Joanne, it was a preview but 3 or 4 minutes at least. It WILL be very GOOD!
Bec, thanks very much!
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East @ 11:10 am
“beware of small women and never mess with them”
Ha ha! Add red/strawberry blonde hair and you’ll find yourself in a firestorm!!
From Fife again this am:’Once again PMSH isn’t speaking to us (meaning ME,)but it’s likely because he doesn’t want to overshadow Obama..heh heh,of course I’m just joking!’
As for Wallin,watch out Bobbi Boy,this woman has more class,more knowledge,in her little finger than you will ever have..and your green with jealousy is showing more and more.
CTV did play majority of the PMSH/Lang interview,and it was really great.PMSH spoke with much compassion about what keeps him up at night..spoke about people losing their jobs,but his bigger concern is our troops,and the loss of life.It was warm,compassionate,and none of the bluster and over-the-top rhetoric of libs.
Our Pierre Polievrre was on fire in QP today..slamming Iggy for his flip-floppery..said ’5 times in one week must be a Guiness record that would go down in Library of Parl as the biggest on record!’
I do have quite a fondness for Pierre!
Just started to read Senator Wallin’s auto-bio. Good read so far.
Do you get the impression that the addition of 18 new Senators for the CPC are beginning to wake up the MSM and that wake up call is beginning to result in the media defining Count Iggy (so the CPC war room is just sitting back and watching)? Never seen so much “bad” press for the Libs and Dear Leader Iggy-puffin.
I said before that it was only a matter of time before Igor says something to piss off Quebec. This is only the beginning, IMHO.
Also Bec makes a great point about the Liberals, if they had been in power, they would have added billions to the structure of the budget (daycare, Kelowna, etc.) Very good point – our situation would be so, so much worse if that were the case.
East is correct when he says beware of petite woman. Grrrrrr!
” Never seen so much “bad” press for the Libs and Dear Leader Iggy-puffin.”
Where, where, WCT? lol
Not as much as there should be considering the daily gaffes! The media cover his butt, big time.
You make an excellent point about the new Senators. Fresh blood and new ideas up there in the spider web, is great. Particularly when there is some media savvy, too.
“East is correct when he says beware of petite woman. Grrrrrr!”
Excellent Soccermom! lol!!
Yep, looks like Iggy Iquana’s Imploding and Kinsella’s lost his edge. A good news Friday!
I see that CTV has already nixed it’s poll on their reporting on their pottygate scandal.
re: Brison’s comments about Iggy – he’s right, I thank him but he’s still Iggy’s problem.
I sure hope that the ground support has another candidate up its sleeve because clearly Ignatieff’s turning out to be worse than Dion I think.
Dion at least believed strongly in things and said so…now, they were the wrong things and his English hampered him, but I’m kind of missing him right now.
I just think this latest lie proves the Icey Interim Leader of the Coalition of Sometimes and Bob Rae, is an accidental Canadian who thinks because a few of the backroom boys thought he was PM material fell for it.
By the way, in reading the MSM paper pundits today I sense a shift in their issues and tone AWAY from Iggy. I think it’s because they, like many of us and many more Canadians are realizing that Ignatieff’s just another cookie cutout of the old boys who have their hands up his butt directing, prepping and coddling Iggy and doing a bad job of it.
I also think kudos to the MSM who are finally getting it are in order, and to the PM’s team who
are letting Iggy sink the Minnow into the unchartered desert isle of puffinville.
Senator Wallin has a good knowledge of what’s gone down in Afghanistan, far more than Count Iggy as well.
For that reason she will not sit by and let the likes of Blondie Fife et al spew any falsehoods, she’s our watchdog on that score. She’s also onto the game they’re playing, they won’t get away without being called on every lie they try to perpetuate.
The budget threw around a lot of money, but it did not add any new programmes to the Gov’t – ie it didn’t increase the size of Gov’t. And the tax cuts are permanent. The coalition wanted National Daycare – which would have been a burden to all taxpayers forever. We really dodged a bullet on that one.
Thank God for Senator Wallin and Senator Duffy. I think they are giving the CPC info and tips about how the MSM operates and how to deal with them.
Don’t forget Samantha too that the stimulus money is temporary. Remember what Minister Flaherty said, Use it or lose it.
Take note of this comment from John Ivison:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/04/02/john-ivison-sunny-signals-from-planet-harper.aspx
This one by Chantal Hebert
http://www.thestar.com/Canada/Columnist/article/612931
This comment stood out for me in that article.
“Ignatieff’s federal-provincial relations agenda is, at best, a blank slate and, at worst, a series of disconnected dots.”
“The coalition wanted National Daycare”
This would be a deplorable use of tax payer dollars. Regulations and enforcement is a provincial responsibility and if based on the Quebec model,a cash cow.
It would provide ZERO choice for parents and remove any entrepreneurial spirit from the industry.
I would be more interested in seeing private and public businesses, investing in, on site daycares as part of their employment incentives.
Our stupid Calgary lawmakers have approved a fitness centre, on site at tax payers expense. A childcare program would have been much more palatable to me.At least it could be revenue neutral, but paid for by users.
As a young parent, I cared more about my children’s well being, than my fitness. They WERE my fitness program, 24/7!
Bec @ 1:06
Also the Coalition wanted National Daycare so they can indoctrinate children from a young age to be socialists, and vote for them when they grow up. They say that the day of the stay-at-home mom in Canada is over. (Although I know some dads who stay at home because their wives have more lucrative careers.) I would much rather see income splitting so that parents that want to stay home are able to manage it.
Samantha @ 1:25 pm
YOU ARE RIGHT,100% and watching little kids walk by attached to a rope, makes me sick!
I want to go, take them all to a big park and let them run free!
Oh Bec. Redhead / Strawberry blonde – shudder, quiver, quake. Oh yes, nothing like that fire. LOL. Seriously, I had a boss once who was well over 6 feet, as were his sons. His wife was this little bit of a thing and they were all terrified of her – nobody ever got Bunny’s dander up, that’s for sure. I had a high school teacher who was the most sickly-looking wisp of a woman but she could silence a class with a “look”. Oh yes, I give small women a wide berth. LOL.
National day care – I am so darned sick of hearing about that. These dunderheaded lefties just will not acknowledge that parents want tax breaks so that they can raise their own children. Children raised by parents are, by and large, a lot better-mannered than those raised by strangers in day cares -in general, that is. An at-home mom or dad trumps a day care worker any day of the week – no offense to day care workers but they are not the parents.
BTW Samantha @ 1:25 pm
That comment about stay at home parents being bygones is crazy. I predict the opposite.
I met 3 young Mom’s last week, opening up a really cool small business. All onsite, child care friendly.
My youngest daughter/unmarried, without kids, has a job that she can work from home, as often as she wants. My other 2, both have careers that are adaptable, in the same fashion.
It is happening and I think the way to go, with technology as sophisticated as it is now.
East @ 1:46pm
One thing I think conservatives can agree on, is this subject.
“Factory children” just makes me so sad.
Help the working poor, absolutely but to lump everyone in the same category as the Quebec model, is NUTS! To ask every tax payer to front child care is, just wrong!
Bec @ 1:49
What I meant to say is that is what the lefties say – “No more stay at home moms.” I agree with you. Parents who want to have one stay at home will use their ingenuity, cut back their lifestyle, whatever so that one can stay at home. Its just so much better for the whole family – everyone’s happier, home-cooked meals no takeout, etc.
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Samantha @ 2:02 pm
Ha ha, I reread my first line and realized how it sounded. Sorry! Yes, we were agreeing and I was hoping you caught that with the previous comment. You and I are on the exact same wave length.
What’s happening with Drone Dryden, lose his tongue or get hit with a puck of common sense?
He’s the Liberal expert on the child care file and wants to get all those poor children into subsidized commie type day care. They do it in China, the children go from breast to daycare. That may be a Liberal idea but the Conservative idea is somewhat different, it provides for choice, including daycare if necessary.
National Day Care champions are saying that they trust the state to raise children and not the parents.
One thing I know for a fact about Stephen Harper is that he does trust parents MORE than a state-run monopoly as the best to raise their children.
There was never any doubt when we decided to have kids that I would stay home. I ended up working from home and have never regretted a minute of it.
What bugged me to no end, when my kids started kindergarten was how quickly the system and other children almost undid what we’d worked hard to achieve with our kids.
School was almost an anti-climax for us, but in the name of exposing our kids to others that’s the price we pay I guess. I found that the kids who had been to daycare for almost their whole lives different from the other kids…more easily angered, competing for attention.
I also am not an advocate of getting kid into a classroom at 3&4 years of age. Nope. No way, no how.
“School was almost an anti-climax for us,”
Well said, CC. I had a similar experience. My oldest came home from grade 1 having learned the “F bomb” and I was instantly in action mode.
We developed a wonderful parent volunteer system and in many ways, those moms and dads helped nurture other peoples kids. I worked when my hubby was home and it all worked out beautifully.
I am in full agreement with Liz J @ 2:48pm with the term, choice.
We make a choice to have children and it needs to be our choice how to care for them, not the governments.
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