After a week of Harper-bashing by Liberals and their media allies, this was a refreshing read this morning – Harper speaks the truth by L. Ian Macdonald.
I hope to have time to elaborate on this excellent column later today, but meanwhile please sit back with another cup of your favourite hot beverage and enjoy.
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Related: Don’t overstate economic woes – Times Colonist.
I particularly appreciate this statement by, Macdonald
“They don’t understand the difference between a movement conservative and the Conservative movement.”
The realities vs rainbows and butterflies.
Sometimes navigating through uncharted waters, one must ad lib and change course. I think it takes a mature and thoughtful mind to accept when this reaction, is necessary.
He has it and we are very lucky, to have him guiding the boat. The alternative would be a 50 ft wave.
The ideologues need to get this because there is nothing to compare this global recession too.
They are becoming as tiresome as the left.
A few days ago a report come out that several billionaires have lost lots of money, same with millionaires. But, they still have megatons of assets and money. With the banks in the tank, and wall street also in the tank, and real estate values way down, where do they have this money-is it in their mattress.
How much of the loss was actual cash, or just paper loss. Only if one sold assets would they have lost money.
The Tea Parties in the states are gaining momentum.
Oh, and notice how the President of the PPG has written a letter complaining about the presser with PMSH and O, seems they didn’t have complete choice of who would be invited to attend. They feel they should have total control of who is invited.
Sometimes navigating through uncharted waters, one must ad lib and change course. I think it takes a mature and thoughtful mind to accept when this reaction, is necessary.
Hmmmm…when Harper does it, it’s mature. When others do it, it’s flipflopping.
I get it.
Btw, there is no recession. Remember? Harper said so himself.
OTTAWA — The worsening recession will drive Ottawa $18-billion deeper into deficit over the next two years, a leading economist is predicting – an increase beyond existing government forecasts that appears set to push annual budget shortfalls into record territory.
The Toronto-Dominion Bank’s calculations – using their updated economic forecasts – would see Canada’s federal debt swell by $81.5-billion over the next two years instead of by $63.5-billion as the Harper government forecasted seven weeks ago. This would drive up Ottawa’s debt to $540.2-billion in the 2010-11 fiscal year instead of $522.2-billion as currently forecast.
“This illustrates the risks that are inherent in the economy right now,” Toronto-Dominion Bank chief economist Don Drummond said.
This further retreat from 11 years of balanced budgets means a heftier national mortgage and rising interest payments on borrowing. It also means a bigger hole to climb out of as the Conservatives struggle to balance the budget.
Reality bites.
OT but Layton is getting blasted from Dave Rutherford.
Especially re the coalition.
With all the ‘sky is falling’ coming from the libLuvin media and Iffy,
when things do turn around, and they will,
PMSH will get full credit.
Iffy has refused to co-operate, He only criticizes.
Apparently, Libs are still working on their policies, election platform…oh goodie.
How are they going to pay for that national daycare scheme, and recinding all the cut backs (the hand sitting markers) and giving Danny an extra $1.6 Billion, and Quebec a blank cheque WHILE reducing the deficit….taxes folks, and a new NEP National Enviro Policy tax grab to weaken the West!
PMSH and his team are privy to on going stats that don’t have to be released immediately.
Perhaps PMSH is ahead of the curve on the economy.
Notice too how PMSH/Flarhety lead and then the US follows suit?
Our government is infront of this crisis, I hope they get the international recognition they continue to deserve.
The PPG has bashed PMSH since, ever.
Has that saved them?
Morning Joanne, First and foremost who gives a rat’s a** about the whiny PPG. They remind me of a bunch of kindergarten kids, actually the kids are more mature.
As to you Janice, Please explain to me how the LPC can profess this un-dying love for Canada but is going to keep all their little policies secret so that the big bad CPC doesn’t steal them. Do not tell me they are not interested in just power when they obviously have no desire to provide suggestions they might have to improve the life of all Canadians, They are and will continue you to be all about power and the trappings of this power until they do a totally house cleaning. These are not normal times, the country and the people of this great country are suffering but the LPC say,, well we have the answers and if you elect us, while then we will tell you, but till then,, suffer.
Exactly, Wilson. We would be in much more dire straits if the entitlement-luvin Libs had forced a national Daycare Program upon the taxpayers, paid Danny his ransom, AND enacted a ridiculous green shaft.
Funny how Liberal trolls seem to ignore that stuff. Reality does bite. But how they are loving this recession that HARPER DIDN’T CAUSE, trying to make it seem like he did.
Stupid.
Oh, and I should say, IGNORE THE FILTHY TROLLS. They seem to be out in full panic mode lately.
OT again, but Dave just mentioned that Layton is in Vancouver and will be on the Bill Goode show later.
I think Layton is losing.
”Btw, there is no recession. Remember? Harper said so himself”
Gee Janice, guess who else said that:
the International Monetary Fund
The Bank of Canada
Libs financial expert Don Drummond originally advised there is not much to do but ride it out.
So bleat and bitch all you want, NO ONE in the world predicted the ‘depth and speed’ of this recession.
Everyday Canadians can be greatfull that the 3 Stooges are not running the country.
Iffy can write a book about it someday, as he sits back scared sh!+less to make a decision.
IGNORE THE FILTHY TROLLS
Come now Soccermom. Harper has downplayed the severity of the recession for political gain.
I agree that a carbon tax would have been very unhelpful had the Liberals won the last election. Perhaps they would have adlibbed like Mr. Harper during tough times?
Of course the Liberals are interested in power. No doubt about that. However, can you credibly suggest that Harper isn’t?
I’m not a partisan Liberal. In fact, under different leadership, say a Peter Mackay, I would happily vote Conservative.
You certainly aren’t going to increase the chances of re-electing Stephen Harper by accusing anyone who questions him and his policy decisions as a filty troll.
Partisanship has it’s place but when you can’t bear to hear any criticism about ” Dear Leader “, you’re no longer a credible pundit.
btw, Everyone notice the markets are still in rally mode today?
MaryT, I’ve been listening to Rutherford raking Layton over the coals. You’re right Layton’s losing.
“Reality bites.”
Seriously? A cut and paste, proves what? Certainly not, reality.
Maybe it could be, reality if necessary, not necessarily, reality.
That is called, flip flop and you are welcome to it.
Bill Good will give Layton an easy time. He’s got to be one of the most useless, politically-correct, uninformed talk show hosts around. I’m sure Jack will have his way with Bill, helped by all the nutzoids leftwackos that inhabit much of Vancouver proper.
Still ignoring the filthy troll…
In the early morning preamble, Rutherford thought his producers, were pulling an April Fools joke on him.
He did a great job with Layton and thanks to the NDP voter that called in and called JACK out.
Janice, You cannot and I will not allow you to have it both ways, you profess that Harper is lying and misleading the public, and you cut and past an article from the TD, that is all fine, but where is your likewise input concerning the article concerning Federal Reserve Chief Bernacke where he basically backs the govt position that we should start to pull out of this by 2010. This is not partisanship, I am sure that Joanne will confirm I have been more the critical of the govt on many topics, but I do try and read more then one article before I post, balance them and find the middle ground which is normally where the truth can be found.
P.S. Question for you, please elaborate on what policies that have been enacted that you think have been terribly far right. Try and remember at present that the CPC is being criticized at present by some of it members for not being right enough.
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests the federal Liberals and Conservatives are in a dead heat, while Tory support is dropping in some parts of the country and among women.
The Canadian Press Harris-Decima survey put the Liberals at 33 per cent and the Conservatives at 32.
The NDP was at 14 per cent, the Greens at 10, and the Bloc Quebecois at nine.
It suggests the Tories trail the Liberals by five percentage points among women overall and by 12 points among urban women.
Jeff Walker, senior vice-president of Harris-Decima, said that’s the important finding.
“Women are moving back toward the Liberals, where they had been leaning toward the Conservatives leading up to and then at the election in (October.)
“It’s women overall, but in particular, among urban-dwelling women, the Liberals are ahead of the Conservatives by 12 points now and they were even at the time of the last election.”
Get with the times girls.
Kingston, weren’t you taught how to correctly speak to a lady?
Janice, LOL,, that is the best your going to get, I have no problem with how to speak to the fairer sex, I just have a problem with seeing how your post at 11:07 has any thing to do with the argument. Now if you felt my post was not gentle enough and offended you, while you came to play in the wrong arena of political debate. The blogs are not for the faint of heart or easily offended
TD Bank chief economist Don Drummond noted, however, that manufacturing production has not tailed off as dramatically as employment in the sector and the economies of Ontario and Quebec – Canada’s manufacturing heartland – have continued to grow thanks in large part to healthy financial and technology sectors.
“I think we’ll limp through it,” said Drummond.
“We’re seeing a greater decoupling of Canadian and U.S. economic events. The major risk in the U.S. is housing and if that spills over to consumption, it will spill over to Canada but we certainly don’t have the same risk. Our key risk is what the exchange rate will do to exports.”
If the past few months are any indication, will do it plenty.
Exports to the U.S. were down 2.3 per cent in October and are marginally down for the first 10 months of the year. And this is for a period when the U.S. economy was generally robust.
But Drummond also cautions against getting overly gloomy. While the tail end of 2007 and start of 2008 will bring some tough sledding, the economy is expected to start pulling up itself up by the bootstraps in the second half of next year and come in with a respectable two per cent or greater gain.
Janice Gelberg :
Do you not remember about a year and a half ago Harper warning McGuinty in Ontario he needs to lower business taxes because rough times are coming? Do you remember McGuinty and the federal liberals response? It was all over the news that Harper is just fear mongering and trying to scare people. Harper has been warning about this for a couple years and doing things to prepare for it but that is a lot different than just outright fear mongering like the liberals are doing now. (and saying Harper wasn’t doing anything to prepare for it) Anybody with half a brain can look at the facts and see the liberals are just flip flopping idiots that don’t deserve any support from anybody.
Funny how 3 polls came out last week, and LibLuvers only reference the one that had Cons and Libs tied.
The other TWO both had Cons 4 points AHEAD of the Libs, 37/33 and 35/31.
Cling to those numbers Janice,
there is nothing else Iffy has given yah!
Iffy is iffy.
I see things are heating up a bit here.
As long as people are being respectful, I think we should try to tolerate different viewpoints. However we need to try to use logic and facts to make our points.
Janice Gelberg Says:
March 16th, 2009 at 10:55 am
“Come now Soccermom. Harper has downplayed the severity of the recession for political gain.”
No, no, you’ve got that wrong!! That’s the Liberal way (all about political gain), don’t you know. They own it fully!!
Your statement also implies you lack psychological insight!! You don’t frighten the general public with dire comments!! And, isn’t that exactly what the Liberals are doing, making matters worse!! They own that, too. LOL
“Hmmmm…when Harper does it, it’s mature. When others do it, it’s flipflopping.”
The difference is the PM tells the truth, the others BS. Oh, yeah, the Liberals own that as well. LOL
“Reality bites.”
The Liberals said “spend, spend, spend..” And, BTW, predicting the future is not reality. Forecasts are not reality. Judging by past predictions, the only reality is that forecasters have been wrong before and they could very well be wrong again!!
Looks like Drummond got it wrong as well…except that in that same article:
But even Flaherty will concede that dark clouds are gathering. While few economists are uttering the R-word, 2008 is expected be the closest Canada comes to dipping into recession — defined as two consecutive quarter of negative growth — since 2001 when growth barely peaked above the waterline.
“I am worried about the U.S. housing market and what it does to consumer confidence,” Flaherty told The Canadian Press.
“It’s not just subprime, it’s much bigger than that. We can expect reduced demand (in the U.S.), which is going to hurt exports, particularly the auto sector and forest products.”
And Flaherty added that while Canadian banks are well-capitalized, the fallout of the $30-billion asset-backed commercial paper crisis in this country will see more financial institutions take “hits,” although an agreement in principle to rescue the short-term debt reached in December should help mitigate the damage. (Will Canada’s economy flirt with recession in 2008?Updated Wed. Dec. 26 2007 4:49 PM ET The Canadian Press)
It looks like the CPC did see the recession looming before Drummond and took action – tax cuts-.
Perhaps DD’s pessimistic deficit forecast are also wrong, only time will tell.
No one on this planet can accurately predict what will happen.
The recession hit us harder and faster than predicted, the recovery could also be swift and steep.
Who knows?
But come what may, being pessimistic ‘can’ prolong the pain.
Exactly, wilson. The worst thing that national leaders can do right now is be overly pessimistic. That is why Obama was talking about buying opportunities in the stock market. I would suspect that all of the G20 leaders will attempt to reassure investors and consumers. It is not so much a flipflop as an coordinated action plan.
Joanne thank you for pointing us to some positive news
I see some new trolls have arrived speaks of desperation
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I need an explanation. Why would changing a leader get a persons vote. A new leader would have the same MPs elected, the same cabinet minister (maybe different portfolios) making policy, the same values and expectations as the old. I have never understood the why a new leader would get a person’s vote.
The liberals have changed leaders 3 times and they continue to lose votes.
Would you vote ndp if Jack was gone, or Bloc if Duceppe left the stage.
What liberals would be defeated if the conservatives changed leaders.
Re the polls, how about a provincial breakdown. Do you want a liberal govt with seats only in Ont and Que.
The three western premiers have joined together to fight crime. Could that be the beginning of the west pulling out if Que separtists run the government.
Saying you would vote conservative if McKay was leader is very childish IMHO. I compare it to putting a different icing on your favorite cake, still the same cake.
“No one on this planet can accurately predict what will happen.”
Well of course with the exception of the trolls.
I heard they know everything, they told me, really they did.
No proof needed just because they say so,it is a fact. (sarcasm)
No one on this planet can accurately predict what will happen.
The recession hit us harder and faster than predicted, the recovery could also be swift and steep.
Who knows?
But come what may, being pessimistic ‘can’ prolong the pain.
Uh huh. Harper has downplayed the severity of the global recession to save his own bacon. He tries to take credit for the condition of our banking system as though it were something his government created.
I won’t take any lessons from this bunch on political expediency thanks.
Harper denied the recession then he said it was pretty darn bad. Now, he claims it’s not so bad afterall. All kinds of credible sources are saying otherwise but nevermind. IN STEPHEN WE TRUST. Btw, when did TD bank become part of the left-wing media conspiracy?
“Why would changing a leader get a persons vote.”
That was very well put, Mary T. It simply makes no sense and show the shallowness of, ‘window dressing’.
Ironically many do not see precisely, what you said and have not taken the time, to investigate their rationale.
Wilson at 10:53 am – FYI, your comment ended up in moderation due to the word b*tch.
I really don’t mind that word being used, but it’s in a list of words that will trigger a comment going to moderation, because I have been called that word in the past. So I always have to check the context.
TD-Toronto Dominion…of course it must be part of the left wing media conspiracy. kidding.
Seriously, DD is making “forecasts and projections” . His past forecasts and projections regarding this recession have been proven wrong. Therefore, his current predictions can hardly be relied upon as gospel. He has an educated opinion on the matter but it is one part data analysis to two parts speculation. The world economy is very volatile and no one can accurately forecast the outcome. Yet, the media showcases all “expert” opinions that contradict PMSH as fact.
Janice Gelberg retorts,
“I won’t take any lessons from this bunch on political expediency thanks.”
and then Janice Gelberg asks,
” Btw, when did TD bank become part of the left-wing media conspiracy?”
Would that be a flip flop? No discussion or discussion? Which is it?
Speaking of Don Drummond, this is interesting…
After you read that Janice, then you can make your own decision about Don Drummond’s ability to be non-partisan in his announcements.
Did not Drummond work in Dept. of Finance with Paul Martin? Or am I mistaken?
“Mr. Drummond joined the federal Department of Finance upon completing his studies at Queen’s.”
From: http://www.td.com/economics/about/don.jsp
I won’t take any lessons from this bunch on political expediency thanks.
Boy, that almost sounds like something Iggy would say.
Thanks for the Drummond info, Frmgrl and Bec!
Jeeze, do we have another “Gayle” out to set us all straight? I’m sick of bleating and bitching from all the soreheads who have nothing to offer but bitching and bleating. The condescension and typical rhetoric is tiresome. One can have an opinion, but facts and truth are immutable.
L Ian MacDonald has it right on the in his column today. Truth can hurt, in this case it appears to hurt the Liberals to hear it, it’s never a necessary part of their game plan.
If the best Ignatieff can do is call the PM a liar, he’s lost in space himself. For someone who has little experience in politics, none as a leader, Ignatieff has more gall than common sense to assume he can lead a country he spent so much time away from.
[...] first and foremost, we must be “on side” with the leader and the party. Commentator Bec at Blue Like You, for instance, exemplifies this [...]
Oh joy. I just heard that Jane Taber will be filling in for Tom Clark on PP this week, and who will one of her guests be today?
Ta-da! Don Drummond.
I think I’ll check out Newman on CBC instead tonight. Can’t be much worse.
Very well written piece @ link at 1:19pm although I think some may be slightly offended. Interesting perspective regardless.
I see Janice Gelberg likes to copy and paste to show that the PM was wrong on the recession. So I thought I would take a turn as well:
Stephen Harper, December 20, 2007:
The prime minister is warning the public to expect a “challenging year” as a global economic slowdown looms and the federal government prepares to introduce climate change regulations on industry.
“The Canadian economy’s fundamentals are very strong. We’re very well positioned,” Harper said in a year-end interview with CanWest News Service at 24 Sussex Drive.
“That said, we are an open-trading economy in a world where there is increasing economic uncertainty — in the United States economy in particular, but (also) some other parts of the globe. We are not immune to that.”
John McCallum, Liberal finance critic, January 1, 2008:
McCallum accused Harper of sending a confusing message to consumers by combining talk of a tax cut with a warning the economy could be headed for trouble.
“This is clearly a triumph of gimmickry over good public policy to announce the GST cut in a store and tell us the cupboard is bare,” said McCallum.
“I think they’re trying to downplay expectations and then people will be positively surprised.”
McCallum said the government is overstating the risks because many experts expect the Canadian economy to grow by up to 2.5 per cent this year, which would leave room for spending and tax initiatives.
Joanne,
Think I’ll tune in to Glenn Beck on Foxnews.
Can’t stomach listening to Giggles or Newman.
Ya, I agree, frmgrl. I am losing interest in PP already so JT so close to dinnertime is too big a risk.
It shouldn’t take much longer for JG to discover whatever she cuts and pastes, one of us will cut and paste something to counteract her actions. We do not suffer fools for long.
I wonder how bad the economy would be if the media had never filled us with doom and gloom.
Met my son’s boss today and he asks, what downturn, everywhere I go there is lots happening. He is a cement finisher and is jut waiting for the frost to get out of the ground. He has more jobs lined up than ever before. Construction will soon be going again, when the frost is gone. Those jobs always disappear in winter months. My g/sons friend is laid off, due to whatever. But,while laying off 10 people the boss went to Florida for 6 wks. Jobs will be back then.
Yes, many companies are cutting costs, but the jobs are still out there.
Notice corporate tax revenues are down in Ont, maybe they should have cut them when recommended.
I still think that this all started when Senator Chuck S, made some stmt re a run on a small bank. Wanted to get O elected so had to tank the economy.
It was a scam that just got out of hand and democrats can wear it.
Also, lots of investors got out of the markets with the threat to higher capital gains taxes and other taxes.
I predict that before the year is out O will be labelled the worst president since Carter, and will lose much of his support. He already has lower ratings than Pres Bush had after the same time in office.
And if your out to buy a house, and it needs fixing up, remember all those renovations qualify for the tax break.
You know, we seem to be seeing an outbreak of trolls who all sound like one person whom we have come to know and “love” but who seems strangely absent from Conservative blogs lately. Hmmm. Methinks that our “friend” is splitting into many trolls. I made a sort-of pact that I would no longer get into debates with these trolls since they (well, there’s only one but she goes by multiple personalities…er…names) only come here to lower the tone of our blogs.
Liz at 1:14 pm – That comment had the G-word and the B-word in it!! No wonder it got stuck in moderation.
East, I was thinking the same thing as the person in question seems to follow the same pattern of not being able to back up their argument and refuses to clarify it or answer questions put to “said person”
Hey guys, maybe it is at the morning “troll boardroom meeting” that they all get their robotic talking points?
Maybe the CEO troll, provides them with their cut and paste assignments for the day?
It does seem to be very, very similar.
OT but just caught a bit of Wolfe on CNN and it appears that Pres O, and the AG of New York are mad as h— over bonuses to be paid to AIG employees. We also had bonuses paid to cbc, post office, CWB, and others. So, fix it, tax bonuses over 5000.00 at 110%, that should stop those 100,000 plus bonuses. Make it rectoactive to Jan 1, 2007. If they can tax windfall profits why not bonuses. Also, there is fear in the US that they could be facing another Cuban Crisis, as Russia is planning to base bombers there.
I would love to respond to all the new (same) trolls, but it is still Lent, have to wait.
LOL,good for you Mary T. So we can look for you on or about April 11th ish?
re the bonuses….Arggh!
Just heard on Fox Niel Cavuto that Obama stimulus only for Union construction workers. Outrage by States and American people breaking out.
Linda Duncan on Newman, has she ever looked in the mirror or visited a hair salon.
Guys, the only part of the Liberal party that’s in unity are the suckers whose job it is to troll Conservative blog sites to beat down the truth and facts presented on those sites. Talk about impossible dreams!
Maybe we should ignore the trolls for Lent but not sure it’s a good thing to build up a head of steam during this period! Doesn’t appear this/these trolls are considering Lent,it’s full steam ahead for the impossible dream.
Check out Hill Times story re: Liberal Leadership Convention.
Looks like it’s going to be one heck of a snoozefest, and better yet…no discussion of policies.
So why attend?
It’s going to be Christmas in May for the PM.
“Come now Soccermom. Harper has downplayed the severity of the recession for political gain.”
“Of course the Liberals are interested in power. No doubt about that.”
So which one is it??? I’m not sure if you’re young and naive or just a pure bred partisan, but that’s what politicians do… of ALL stripes. It’s about forwarding their own respective ideologies and strivng to have the mandate to manifest them. This is not a “Harper” strategy but a multi-party strategy. It’s called politics and you’ve been drinking far too much of the la-la kool-aid if you think otherwise. As far as not being willing to hear any criticism? If there was ever anything BUT criticism, then maybe the opposition parties would haave a bit more credibility.
Gayle, Ted, and now “Janice Gelberg” Are we being “gang trolled” these people seem to follow a pattern of talking points the old
1# P M Stephen Harper bad
2# anything he has done is bad
3# anything he has said about anything he has done or is going to do is bad
4# Only the Liberals can lead us out of the desert, PM Harper would like Moses let us wander for 40 years and then would lead us to the only land in the middle east with no oil.
5# if we are so wrong to be of a Conservative bent why do the trolls spend so much time on this blog ?
6# P M Harper has faced the people in 3 elections and gained every time. Mr. Ignatiff has yet to face the people, snarky threats of “probation”, “report cards” and the like demanding apologies for “being optimistic” I guess “doom and gloom” work for Mr. Ignatiff, he is looking more like Vincent Price every day IMHO “scary Liberal” indeed, dosent seem to be doing too much for either his career, or his poll numbers. BTW the Coalition hasen’t exactly resonated with any Canadians, yet I don’t feel compelled to go to any Liberal, NDP, or Bloc blogs to yada yada about their “hidden agenda” The trolls remind me of the misguided folks that knock on my door every few weeks wanting to wow me with their version of Nirvana, they have also adopted the save the polar bear silliness too, sad really.
Yes, it seems that being a cheerleader of the Prime Minister and the party,suggests some sort of neurosis.
I suppose it would seem that way, when loyalty to 4 leaders in 4 years would feel like a greasy spoon’s, kitchen door, on free burger day.
There most certainly is a pattern with them. They must feel lost and alone and wonder what it feels like to belong to something meaningful.
trolls intend to do one thing and one thing only…divert your attention to mindless argument padded by spin.
Trolls have been fed a steady diet of pap that leads them to believe their party has somehow corned the market on party loyalty.
The most ironic thing is that the CPC and their grassroots have learned their lessons well, know what they stand for and who their leader is.
None of the Coalition of Sometimes can say that, and given that no policy is on the agenda for the leadership coronation in Vancouver in April, that party still will not know what it stands for.
Good news on all fronts.
Liberals won’t discuss policy because that is Kinsella’s advice. What is needed badly is a credible candidate to run in Etobicoke South preferably a Ukranian. This would force Ignatieff to open his mouth.
So little is known about Iggy. What religion is he anyway?
Seinfeld was the TV show about nothing.
The Liberal party of Canada is the party about nothing.
Joe, you are quite right, the LPC is about nothing. Nothing has been contributed by that lot since Iggy was lifted to the post. Iggy has said it’s not his job to offer anything, it’s his job to oppose. At least Dion had a greened up carbon tax, he tried.
If Kinsella is running the show be prepared to be attacked by stuffed animals.
How long is an average election campaign, a little over 35 days. So the liberals really think that they can spin their platform in less than 30 days to get support. And they think we want to steal their ideas, I think they have stolen more ideas from us, think what they stole from Preston, and PMSH. It was those two who wrote the Clarity act that Dion took credit for. And how will female liberals react to the fact if they want to run they will have to fight for the nomination this time. Another Dion idea Iggy threw under the bus.
Anyone catch Layton on Bill Good today. Dave Rutherford gave him a lashing he will not soon forget, and Dave said Layton would probably never be on his show again, no loss. Layton did say he had been in Linda Duncan’s riding and received great support. Any media attention to that meeting.
Bet she is gone as a one term disaster, especially her hair.
Harper has downplayed the severity of the recession for political gain.
As did Stephane Dion, and any other politician worth his salt in the last election, Gayle.
I may criticize the PM for a lot of things, but not this.
MaryT, yes Rutherford did give Layton a really hard time, which he richly deserved, the little jerk. I enjoyed that quite a bit; Layton can get quite snarky when cornered like the rat he is, eh??
Bill Good is our local talk show host, but he is completely uninformed; he’s basically a news reader and has no opinions other than what’s pc for the day. So I never listen to him or Christie Clark (Mark Marissen’s wife; marissen being Dion’s campaign manager). My time is spent listening to Rush, Glenn Beck or Adler. I’m sure Bill Good gave Layton an easy ride.
Gayle, Ted, and now “Janice Gelberg” Are we being “gang trolled” these people seem to follow a pattern of talking points the old
Mmmm… I guess I don’t have Gayle in the comment moderation queue after all. How about that.
That’s a good line, though Bubba. “gang trolled”. Heh.
Soccermom, my sister recently moved to Langley City(?)
and she feels like she is in a bubble with talk radio. I will tell her that she can still get Dave. Is it different timing etc?
Janice is obviously a newbie and a bit green around the edges.
Copy and paste from a biased media doesn’t fool anyone here.
Obviously it fools some of the people.”Not Liberal and not partisan”
Whoops…didn’t finish…
Janice said:
“I’m not a partisan Liberal. In fact, under different leadership, say a Peter Mackay, I would happily vote Conservative.”
It’s only the Libs and biased media who are throwing out comments about a change in leadeship in the CPC.
Ya bluetech, that comment was definitely the most ridiculous. No reason, rationalizing or qualifying the choice.
It seems LIEberal shallowness is alive and well.
Actually Gayle said at one point she was NDP did she not?
Gayle, by any other name is soooo non-partisan, it’s a matter of ABC, why else would she visit Conservative blogs to set things straight in her humble opinion?
Hi Bec, I listen to Rutherford via internet. We don’t get Rutherford on regular radio here. We don’t get Adler on the radio until 7 p.m., well after all the fun is done. I also have to catch him online as well if I want to tune in during the day.
Talk radio here SUCKS. Bill Good and Christie Clark are absolutely awful.
Welcome to your sister!
Thanks Soccermom, that should brighten things up.
I confess I am a Camadian Conservative. I await with bated breath the Liberal Policy Convention. But then I see on Bourque that they are not gonna share any of their ideas , cause those nasty Conservatives might steal them? I can understand their reluctance,/not The “Green Shift” teaming up with the “vote magnet Lizzy”. Brillant? I guess we will all have to wait till the writ is dropped before we find out what the Liberals are gonna call the “Green Shift” this time. I guess somebody could help me with this, I don’t remember any actual Liberal policy being taken and used by the Conservatives or by anyone else.
But then I see on Bourque that they are not gonna share any of their ideas
Do they actually have any?
It’s a long held policy of Liberals to steal ideas and claim them as their own. Their thievery knows no bounds.
They have a poor resource for ideas with the present leader. I wouldn’t count acting like a professor and putting the ruling party on probation and demanding reports too brilliant, it’s what a government does anyway.
Appears the Liberals are a classic example of bankruptcy in every sense of the word. Not sure the backroom joker will have enough stuffed animals to get them up and running.
LizJ: Gayle did, indeed, say that she supported the NDP but she voted Liberal because she had no faith in her party to win a seat. With friends like that, who needs enemies. I think, truthfully, that she doesn’t know who to support but only knows that she hates Harper. She also sent money to Garth Turner and announced it on his blog. So, here is an Alberta resident who sent money to the Halton candidate and who voted against her party because she hates Harper. I think there are some real issues there.
East of Eden: Gayle is multi-oppositioning! It’s the Danny Williams syndrome, ABC.
Don Drummond is a long time Liberal shill, anything he says should be taken with a ton of salt.