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Iggy the Enigma

“What is he trying to say?”

Is that the question you find yourself asking after hearing Michael Ignatieff speak?

For a person who is supposed to be a renowned orator, he sure does seem to have problems speaking in a language that gets his point across.  No doubt he still sees himself perched on a desk in front of a classroom of attentive students who delight in his every nuanced phrase and tangential metaphor, as they all pretend to understand so as to not appear foolish.

Now Canada is Iggy’s classroom as he drops pithy phrases like “determined determination” and how much he likes the smell of manure in Quebec.

He makes cute little adaptions on trademarks from previous Prime Ministers, and sits back to watch the rapturous puzzlement on our faces as we struggle to contemplate the implications.

Then we find out that tax cuts should be aimed at the lower and middle classes, but not necessarily the middle class.

And now he’s sending mixed messages to his partners. Are they married or merely holding hands? Judging from the conflicting reports by MSM, only Iggy knows for sure.  Steve Janke tried to decipher the “stable government” declaration, but many of us were still left scratching our heads.

Iggy says he’s not going to run against the oil patch, but what the heck does that mean?

“Oil production is a dirty business but it doesn’t mean it can’t be reconciled with environmental objectives,”he said. “I take a very positive view of oilsands development. . . It doesn’t make any sense to me to run against the oilpatch.”

And what’s all this fascination with dirt and manure and puffin excrement, anyway?

Barbara Yaffe lauds Ignatieff as “doing a swell job of not being Dion”.

If that’s Ignatieff’s single biggest attribute, I think the Liberals made a big mistake – They’re both incomprehensible.

But at least Dion wasn’t so damn arrogant.


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Update: Several readers have kindly attempted to decode Iggyspeak for us. Here’s a sample:

AG deals with Iggy’s announcement that he’s not going to run against the Oil patch -

“Perhaps what he really means is that it is his decision that deciding to run against the oil patch may or may not be a good decision; being against the oil patch if necessary, but not necessarily against the oil patch, that may or may not signal being against the oil patch.

There – did that clear it up for ya!!”

Clear as mud & manure,  says Mary T.

Bluetech offers further clarification -

“…All I know about oil is that I have decided that its greasy and dirty,not necessarily dirty.I experienced it once at my uncle’s farm. The tractor required oil, apparently.Actually one of my fondest memories of oil is watching Beverly Hillbillies as a child…”

Hey, watch it! I remember Beverly Hillbillies too!

CC has a whole list of Iggyisms. This one pertains to the Oil Patch remark -

Iggyism: “it doesn’t make any sense to me to run against the oil patch”
Translation: my lips are sore from too much kissing of western butt…who’s got my lipchap?

There are many more. What a creative group of readers here! Well done, everyone.

Related: Sandy is starting to collect Iggyisms too! I’m sure we can decode Professor Puffinbabble’s verbiage if we all work together.

BTW, Nomdeblog’s comment deserves some special attention:

Gabby’s comment [about Jean Charest] is important because it ties back to the “enigma”. “Mushroom management” is what Liberals are all about “keep the voters in the dark and s**t all over them”.

And that is very much in keeping with Iggy’s poop fetish.

‘Mushroom management’… Has that been copyrighted yet?

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This is too funny not to share -  By Lorraine over at Sandy’s:

Well, I’m not losing sleep over this because I have ice water in my viens and I love the smell of manure while I’m putting my shoulder to the task of getting this country out of the ditch with every ounce of my Liberal DNA except I took a break to hold hands with Layton and Duceppe but Harper has only one more chance to get my confidence and then I’m taking him out. Period…

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Sunday Update: Looks like I’ll be boycotting Highliner products next:

Didn’t have $500 to spend on the Michael Ignatieff fundraiser earlier this month?

We didn’t either, but it seems it was quite a night with the new federal Liberal leader.

About 75 folks who gathered at the south-end Halifax home of John Risley were greeted by parking valets. Once inside the Thornvale Avenue residence, guests were treated to lobster, crab and champagne among other delicacies.

The guest list for the event, which was hosted by Mr. Risley and Rob Steele, president of Newfoundland Capital Corp., included Henry Demone, CEO of High Liner Foods, provincial Liberal Leader Stephen McNeil, Grit MPs Scott Brison and Geoff Regan, and Sen. Jim Cowan.

Of course, this could be another reason…

97 Comments

  1. Soccermom says:

    Oh Dion was arrogant as well. He liked to remind everyone that he considered himself a “reho” or hero every chance he got. And he obviously never listened to advice. A laughable arrogance.

    Iggy, on the other hand, has an “I’m so smart, worship my smartness” aura about him.

    Both display typical Liberal arrogance.

    They, as a party, have not learned a damn thing.

  2. Alberta Girl says:

    “Then we find out that tax cuts should be aimed at the lower and middle classes, but not necessarily the middle class.”

    Would that be tax cuts for the middle class; but not necessarily the middle class gets tax cuts.

    “Iggy says he’s not going to run against the oil patch, but what the heck does that mean?”

    Perhaps what he really means is that it is his decision that deciding to run against the oil patch may or may not be a good decision; being against the oil patch if necessary, but not necessarily against the oil patch, that may or may not signal being against the oil patch.

    There – did that clear it up for ya!!

  3. MaryT says:

    Thanks AG for making that clear as the mud and manure that our never to be PM man means. LOL.

  4. Observant says:

    First impressions are lasting impressions .. so what’s your impression of Iggy?:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/stevekog/UncleIggy.jpg

    ..or …

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/stevekog/MichaelIgnatieff.jpg

  5. Lisa from Toronto says:

    Well,and I thought it was me, unable to understand Iggy because English is not my first language. I am sooo glad I am not alone Joanne, I was worried there for a while, I am really having a hard time trying to figure out what he is saying.

  6. Joanne says:

    Lisa, I think that the Liberal Party sees Ignatieff as a Prophet – ‘The Appointed One’ who is going to lead them back to the Promised Land of Government.

    The Liberals and MSM stand around waiting for the Prophet to expound on a subject and drop one of his little puzzle pearls, and then they all scramble to decipher the meaning.

    The only problem is that a Chinese Fortune cookie probably contains more wisdom.

  7. Bruce says:

    Iggy speaks English, the words emanate from his mouth, but he makes no more sense than his hapless predecessor Dion. There is much dissatisfaction already with Iggy in the Liberal camp, some are already calling for a change in leadership. Surprised? No.

  8. Bruce says:

    Oh, one more thought, Iggy the academic has the Liberal disease more commonly known as “bullshit baffles brains syndrome.”

  9. bluetech says:

    “…says he’s not going to run against the oil patch, but what the heck does that mean…”
    Just guessing here:Iggy sez…
    “All I know about oil is that I have decided that its greasy and dirty,not necessarily dirty.I experienced it once at my uncle’s farm. The tractor required oil, apparently.Actually one of my fondest memories of oil is watching Beverly Hillbillies as a child.”

    and…yes, what AG said!!

  10. Lorraine says:

    This blog entry is so timely about what I was thinking. Ignatieff was on talk radio in Alberta this week. It was truly bizarre. He is really nothing but a walking Book of Quotations – the kind Toastmasters use to spice up their talks.
    I was thinking we should start a website of Ignatieff’s meaningless but oh so pithy quotable quotes.

    Here’s a few that keep resurfacing even amongst other Liberals trying to look, well, Iggyish I guess but they come across as shallow parakeets.

    “A coalition if necessary but not necasarily a coation”.

    “I’m a proud Liberal and a proud Canadian and I want to push this car out of the ditch – but I don’t like the driver”.

    “…determidly determined…”
    “I have icewater in my viens…”
    “I’ve been a Liberal since the days I campagined for Trudeau…(except he omits he was not a Canadian Liberal for 35 years – British and United States Liberal maybe)

    “Harper has one last chance …blah blah blah…”

    Ignatieff uses so many malitrops you have to wonder if he has any experience just talking to real people instead of being a “toastmaster” in a in a classroom of “thinkers” – not amongst real people who are “doers”.

  11. bluetech says:

    Wow!! Bruce …I thought my hubby made up that one!!He has dealt with many levels of government in the constuction field.

  12. bluetech says:

    ‘psychobabble’ and ‘purple piffle’ come to mind as well.

  13. bluetech says:

    Right again Joanne. The Libs keep focused on the leaders and the MSM, instead of trying to connect or relate to us Canadians.

  14. Joanne says:

    Hey, Observant! Sorry your comment had been stuck in moderation. I love them both!

  15. Jen says:

    Have you noticed the MSM stay far away from the COUNT CZAR OF THE LIBERAL PARTY. In two sentences the CCL makes fools of their intelligence which frankly they have none.
    He goes around loving the idea of tax cuts for the midde class then, he waltzes into his newfound love province of Quebec to tell them that he does not like the idea of tax-cuts for the middle class.
    Is Czar IGNATIEFF telling us that there two types of people in Quebec the rich and the poor no middle class.

  16. Bruce says:

    bluetech, ‘psychobabble’ ,LOL.

  17. Bruce says:

    This is what “Ti-Guy” said at Big City Lib, it sums up perfectly how detached Liberals are from Canadians in general and the utter disdain and disrespect that infects their minds.

    “I have to conclude that Canadians are just a lot stupider than I’ve been willing to believe. I honestly thought the online dingbats represented a marginal demographic but not anymore.”

  18. nomdeblog says:

    The difference between nuance and action pretty much captures the difference between Liberals and Conservatives

    The Liberals take no position, they are on all sides of the argument. They want to be “honest brokers” with the likes of Hezbollah .. gosh, talk about a contraction in terms

    Whereas Conservatives are not nuanced, they act, they take a firm position, slog their way through a problem and through trial and error move the ball forward. An example would be election funding. PMSH put it on the table, most were not even conscious of the fact that the ROC was funding separatists with $1.90 a vote. Then PMSH took the issue temporarily off the table. The country is now thinking about this issue and it will end up back on the table in the next election platform .. .that is trial and error. Nuance would be what Chrétien and his successors do, never raise a difficult matter, never actually act on anything, Liberals just bide their time, collect our taxes, take a skim and run the next election by triangulating and calling it nuance.

  19. Bubba Brown says:

    Re “Iggy the enigma” I think he is enjoying hugely “toying” with the little MSM heads I think we need to look at his heritage, Winston Churchill referred to the Russians “It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, but perhaps there is a key, that is Russias National intrest”
    Substitute Liberal for Russia and I think we are looking at another a**hole professor who is dribbling “pearls before swine” and laughing up his sleeve at the “pesants” trying to make figure out what “the anointed one” is babbling about. The Last “liberal leader” (now there is an oxymoron) was incomprehensible because of his lack of English skills, this one is incomprehensible because of his English skills, go figure, I am going with my “gut feeling” on this one. It would really suck to have
    Iggy as P M.
    He did say he is not “running against the oil patch” of course not he can hardly wait to hit them with a great big “carbon tax” “cap and Pray” “green shift” or whatever they are calling it this week. The question that was never asked of Dion was how much was going to go to Russia and China to buy “carbon credits” It was the only way we could have made our “kyoto committments”
    Finally a question of Enigma-Iggy is a “stable government” a place where you get a waft of your favorite “smell” cause this “ranting old redneck” is sure gettin a whiff from you-all I will avoid getting on the down wind side of “oblique Iggy”
    Cheers Bubba

  20. Bruce says:

    And yet another Ti-Guy gem, these Libs sure like to step in it;

    “Look, we’re going to have to resign ourselves to the fact that a huge proportion of the Canadian population is barely sensate enough to even be allowed to vote at this point.”

  21. Lorraine says:

    I see where Iggy told people in BC this week that Dion’s Green Shift (a carbon tax) was the big reason they lost the election because it was bad policy.

    Get it? Iggy in 2009 says that a Carbon Tax is bad policy.

    In the 2006 leadership campaign it was IGGY HIMSELF and NOT DION who campaigned on a Carbon Tax. Dion campaigned against one.

    Then Iggy campagined with Dion FOR a carbon tax just a few months ago- complete with some nice quotable toastmaster quotes.

    And now, because that plot did not work he is against a carbon tax and FOT the oil sands.

    Sheesh huh???

  22. wilson says:

    My hero Zero says (from Bruce’s BCL link above):

    ”Ti-Guy said…
    I have to conclude that Canadians are just a lot stupider than I’ve been willing to believe. I honestly thought the online dingbats represented a marginal demographic but not anymore.

    Ti-Guy said…
    Look, we’re going to have to resign ourselves to the fact that a huge proportion of the Canadian population is barely sensate enough to even be allowed to vote at this point.”

    Yup. If Canadians don’t want Iggy to lead the country, it’s because Canadians are stupid!!!!
    Let’s see, 70 Liberals decided that Iggy should rule Canada, and we millions who don’t agree with 70 Liberals, are all stupid.

    It’s hillarious too, that Libloggers are crying that PMSH is ‘trying to make the coalition stick to Iggy’.

    Hello, earth to planet stupid, Iggy is making the coalition stick to Iggy.
    He signed on (we have documents and footage)
    he keeps the coalition of losers alive!

    Iggy, if you’re reading this,
    stay home, you just piss us Westerners off with your ‘dirty oil’ comments.
    We wash all the money before we send it to Quebec.

  23. Lisa from Toronto says:

    Honestly, the Libs/Coalition (not sure where he stands as a leader) need to find someone who can interpret Iggy’s speeches in simple English language. Lots of Torontonians have English as a second language, how can he gets his message accrossed for goodness sake ?

  24. Gabby in QC says:

    Ignatieff is not really an enigma – he has simply become a true Liberal. As Nomdeblog said @ 12:20 pm: “The Liberals take no position, they are on all sides of the argument.”

    They ultimately seek power at any cost, so they cannot be perceived as being on the wrong or unpopular side of an argument. Look at how Liberal the former Captain Canada Jean Charest has become, lying through his teeth about the equalization formula. Heck, if a mere mortal like me could understand there would be a cap on the growth of equalization, contingent on the growth of the economy, surely Charest’s great mind and his finance minister Jerome-Forget could have figured it out?

    Sorry, I’m off on a tangent with the equalization bit … but i’m really steamed at Charest. He’s just another concrete example of the duplicity of the Liberals in Ottawa and those here in Quebec.

  25. Alberta Girl says:

    I checked out bruce’s link to the libblogger known as BCL and found this comment from ti + guy.

    “I have to conclude that Canadians are just a lot stupider than I’ve been willing to believe. I honestly thought the online dingbats represented a marginal demographic but not anymore”

    Must hurt to know that one of the on line dingbats is starring back at him in the mirror. You just have to laugh at them and how they thought just annointing Iggy would make Canadians flock back to the Liberals.

  26. Roger says:

    I was watching the news just after the Meeting Iggy had with Layton , and the earlier on for Rae and Iggy.
    But the Host couldn’t get any answers from the 3 of them because while they declared their meeting was good and the exchanged idea and set a plan going forward , Bob rae kept telling the host to ask Michael where he stands on isssue, Jack Layton rufused to make a definitive stance for his plan and he too told the host to ask Michael or Gilles where they stand on the Coalition being alive and ready to take down the Government.

    Do they actual believe canada can’t see through their charades , do they not know they sound like prattling chimps yapping for hours and saying Nothing?

    At least KoKo the gorilla learned sign-language to say exactly what he wanted or how he felt, these yahoos should look for work at NASA since they’ve been taking up Space in Ottawa for a few years now.

    BTW
    McGuinty has been laying low and won’t commit to anything about the Auto crisis until Obama speaks up in February , meanwhile….Ontario dies and more lay-offs at magna and Auto suppliers .
    Doltin McFibber has yet to hold up a mirror to lay the blame on someone, he has so far blamed Harper,Mike Harris,Oil Companies,GM,Ford,Chrysler,Global Warming,Obama,George Bush,David Miller,minimum wage,MP’s,opposition MPP’s,the Public, and just about anything that moves.

    David Miller blames Ontario, Dalton blame Ottawa , here’s a thought…..when a City gets big enough the province takes over and Miller can go back to his Law practise, when a province gets big enough Ottawa takes over and McGuinty can back to his law practise…TADA.
    Problem solved

    Oh wait….Miller and McGuinty love to whine about issues and would rather keep power and over-spend while raising taxes and crying poor.

  27. Joanne says:

    Sorry guys. Anything that hints of the word ‘ti-guy’ goes into moderation. If you don’t want to wait until I retrieve them then use a code, like T-G or something.

  28. Joanne says:

    Sorry, I’m off on a tangent with the equalization bit … but i’m really steamed at Charest. He’s just another concrete example of the duplicity of the Liberals in Ottawa and those here in Quebec.

    Hey, please don’t apologize Gabby! We were all looking for you a post back or so, wondering what you thought about that doofus Charest. Originally, I tried to defend him, but in the end it was hopeless.

    I actually used to like him when he first became Premier, but now he’s just a lowlife like the rest of them.

  29. Bruce says:

    Not a problem Joanne, it’s sure enlightening to see the level of Leftist Mental Disorder that goes on over at Liblogs.

    Now where is my “beer and popcorn”?

  30. nomdeblog says:

    Gabby’s comment is important because it ties back to the “enigma”. “Mushroom management” is what Liberals are all about “keep the voters in the dark and s**t all over them”.

    But we could better unite this country if the Quebecois knew the facts about equalization and how it worked. That would quell the call for separation.

    In turn I would be a lot more receptive to the idea of keeping up equalization payments out of Ontario if I thought Quebec appreciated it and was working toward ending it within a decade. As it is, I want to cut Quebec off and that is bad for them and bad for the unity of Canada but necessary for Ontario’s survival.

    All of this relates to the “enigma” that the Liberals perpetuate, the obfuscation, the lies , the inability to face up to reality and adapt .

  31. Soccermom says:

    “Sorry, I’m off on a tangent with the equalization bit … but i’m really steamed at Charest. He’s just another concrete example of the duplicity of the Liberals in Ottawa and those here in Quebec.” Yes, Gabby, he’s completely morphed into a ridiculous Liberal. He’s an idiot.

    Quebeckers really don’t know the truth about equalization; remember that chick that was involved with Maxime Bernier? When asked about the possibility of Alberta separating (or something like that) she said, “Good let them separate, but make them pay back all that we have given them first”. Not a clue.

    We need some good old-fashioned public relations done on that point, and about a lot of other things the Liberals have been trying to brainwash Canadians into believing.

  32. Wayne says:

    MI reminds me a little of Charles Durning’s character as the Governor, in ‘The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas’. Put a hat on him. Everything to everyone. Every speech a fog; nothing to hold onto.

  33. Joanne says:

    This blog entry is so timely about what I was thinking. Ignatieff was on talk radio in Alberta this week. It was truly bizarre. He is really nothing but a walking Book of Quotations – the kind Toastmasters use to spice up their talks.
    I was thinking we should start a website of Ignatieff’s meaningless but oh so pithy quotable quotes.

    Lorraine, you and others here have helped me find the word I was searching for – platitudes.

    Iggyssiah is full of meaningless, empty platitudes.

  34. fh says:

    Wayne you are right on the mark you have MI s number 100%
    the best description I have seen yet

    does anyone remember Sheila Copps advice to Stephen Harper?
    Say one thing then Do the opposite

    we will not soon forget Liberal double talk

    “Everything to everyone” right on Wayne Kudos

    fh

  35. jad says:

    It seems like even the intellectuals are having a hard time with Ignatieff.

    Hare’s second Iraq play, 2006′s The Vertical Hour, which opens next week at the Prairie Theatre Exchange in Winnipeg, covers similar territory in a more personal milieu. The main character is a well-known left-leaning interventionist, Nadia Blye, who shaped her views as a war correspondent in the Balkans and now teaches political science at Yale. On a trip to England, she clashes with her fiancé’s father, a reclusive doctor who believes Nadia allowed herself to be co-opted by an illiberal cause.

    If Nadia’s credentials sound familiar, they are awfully similar to those of Liberal leader Ignatieff, who prior to entering politics reported from Bosnia and Kosovo and held a position as a professor of human rights at Harvard. When The Vertical Hour had its British premiere in 2008, the Sunday Times writer A.A. Gill revealed that Ignatieff – “the long navel-gazer who, even for a Canadian, has had a conspicuous humour bypass” – was the character’s inspiration.

    Hare calls that a “complete misconception,” but admits that Nadia’s way of defending her political positions was influenced by how Ignatieff and others in what was dubbed the “I-Can’t-Believe-I’m-a-Hawk club” framed their arguments in support of the war. (Ignatieff has since recanted these views.) “I’d been very struck when I’d heard Michael Ignatieff speak, that he had this tone of injured self-pity,” says Hare. “In front of audiences, he presented himself as somebody who had suffered terribly for his views.”

  36. Lorraine says:

    Thanks Joanne. I was thinking about Toastmasters. They teach us to use a RELEVANT QUOTE to open the speech – then to fill the body of the speech with clear and concise information and then to close the speech with another RELEVANT QUOTE in the summation.

    Ignatieff’s ENTIRE VERBAGE is nothing but quotes and turns of words and synonyms and analogies. Nothing in between.

    It seems that he and his non Canadian publicist wife sit for hours going through Bartlett’s Books of CANADIAN Quotations and then he practices the correct hand and eyebrow movements in the mirror just hoping for a chance to WOW all of us commoners with his PITHY WIT.

    T’aint working. Bafflegab never does ultimately.

    It will take a few common sense reporters to try to decipher his oh so poetic tomes to realize that THIS Russian Emporer has no clothes.

    Seems to me smarter heads have prevailed in LibLog land too. Many can see their new “annointed neophyte rookie politician and rookie Canadian never managed a thing in his life except his own career” leader is naked don’t you think.

  37. wilson says:

    So what changed since Iggy’s statement on Jan 8?

    “I think it’s important for us to have tax cuts for low and middle-income Canadians, to increase their purchase power,” Ignatieff told reporters after the meeting.

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090108/economy_tour_090108/20090108?hub=QPeriod

    Are Iggy and Jack working on a budget, and Iggy just bowed to a Dipper demand?
    Iggy won’t take a stand until he runs it by Gilles first? Remember, Libs only have 77 seats, vs. 86 Dipper/Bloc in the coalition of losers.

    Is Iggy playing footsy with Jack and Gilles, ‘just incase’ Canadians soften up to a coalition of losers?
    Are the 3 stooges rewritting an agreement?

  38. Gabby in QC says:

    Nomdeblog @ 1:14 pm:
    “But we could better unite this country if the Quebecois knew the facts about equalization and how it worked. That would quell the call for separation.”

    I doubt the call for separation will be quelled anytime soon, because it is advantageous for some camps:
    1. The Bloc, who will continue to say it looks out for Quebec’s interests in Ottawa (read that their own fat MP pensions, as was often voiced by deceased journalist Michel Vastel).
    2. The Ottawa Liberals, thriving on any sign of resurgence of separation talk so that they can continue to cast themselves as the defenders of national unity.
    3. The Quebec Liberals, who will continue to portray themselves as the true defenders of Quebec interests, squeezing as much as possible from Ottawa while not actually severing the ties of national unity. They reassure the dwindling anglo population that THEY are the only ones who will represent their interests.
    4. The die-hard PQ, who still believe in the benefits of separation.
    5. The extremists in both camps – the anti-English and the anti-French – who revel in the tension and conflict of separation, because that’s their reason for being.

    Joanne @ 1:02 pm:
    “We were all looking for you a post back or so …”
    Once in a while I have to take a rest from all the negative news and commenting. I tell myself, give it up, you’re not achieving anything, it’s useless …
    But like Michael Corleone in Godfather 3 said: “Just when I thought I was out… they pull me back in.”
    So I’m baaack …

  39. wilson says:

    ”Seems to me smarter heads have prevailed in LibLog land too. Many can see their new “annointed neophyte rookie politician and rookie Canadian never managed a thing in his life except his own career” leader is naked don’t you think.”

    Don’t forget too, Liberals already scrutinized Iggy as leader
    and rejected him.
    Iggy is already a loser in Lib eyes.

    So Iggy is ‘new’ only to those outside the Liberal bubble. The Iggy camp played very dirty in the leadership race Iggy lost.

    Dion’s last grasp at becoming PM….the coalition of losers.
    Iggy’s last grasp (Rae would have won given time) at Lib leadership….coup to make Dion and Rae walk the plank.

  40. Sammy says:

    I’ve been thinking about the ‘Iggyisms’..those pearls of wisdom from The Chosen One,so I find it timely that you posted this Jo!The best I can relate them to,is that gem from Chretien,lets say it all together now…’a proof is a proof..blah blah blah’
    I am a well-educated,professional,50-something Granny,and for the life of me,I can’t understand ‘Libspeak’..guess I’m just not edumacated enough,having not attended Haaaavard U! This talking down,or over the head of the regular Joe isn’t going to sit well,and can you imagine Iggy on the campaign trail?

  41. Gabby in QC says:

    Another point re: Quebecers & equalization.
    André Pratte, editor of La Presse, has written on the benefits Quebec derives from Confederation.
    http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/35/search?sc=Andre+Pratte&sf=Author
    But how many people, apart from bloggers, try to inform themselves, instead of forming their opinions on the basis of snatches of converstaions heard on talk radio or opinions fed to them through the filter of the MSM?

  42. Gabby in QC says:

    Oops! “converstaions” should of course be “conversations”

  43. Joanne says:

    ‘psychobabble’ and ‘purple piffle’ come to mind as well.

    Or ‘puffin piffle.’

  44. greyburr says:

    You are all looking way too deep.Iggys an intellectual don’t you know.Iggy does not speak to you,an Iggy speaks at you.When Iggy finally does speak in simple coherent sentences you can be sure that Kinsella is whispering in his ear with what he thinks will be a game winning plan ,probably of some form of secular smear.When Kinsellas involved and if his past history is any indication the liberal game plan will not be about liberal policys but about media manufactured Conservative boogymen.Hidden agendas,creationism,secular education etc.

  45. Jeff says:

    I sat in on one of Mike Lake’s round table discussions yesterday. Someone suggested that Stephen Harper has had three opportunities to get a majority and failed each time. Mike responded by pointing out that we went from 99 seats as official opposition, to 128 (or thereabouts) seats as government though a minority, and now to a stronger minority with 144 seats. Mike also highlighted the comment of one UK journalist with a left-wing paper who sees Harper as an example for other world leaders to follow.

    I know this negative sentiment about our PM is out there, and so I suggest that the Harper critics who are conservatives compare the prime minister’s MacLean’s interview with the Michael Ignatieff interviews. Like what the PM is saying or disagree, he’s clear. MI is not.

  46. Joanne says:

    I know this negative sentiment about our PM is out there, and so I suggest that the Harper critics who are conservatives compare the prime minister’s MacLean’s interview with the Michael Ignatieff interviews. Like what the PM is saying or disagree, he’s clear. MI is not.

    Well said, Jeff. And if anyone missed that Maclean’s interview with Harper, Sandy is discussing it here.

  47. C.C. says:

    Gabby – “once in a while I have to take a rest from all the negative news and commenting”

    Hot Chocolate and Baileys helps too Gabby.

    Re: Iggy’s edubabble – I hope he continues to carry on in exactly the way he’s been carrying on. It’s in the best interest of the conservatives if more and more Iggyisms come out of that mouth of his. I happen to think that the more a professional, needs to fall back on cute language, or use jargon the way Ignatieff is right now, it’s a clear sign to me that he’s got nothing to say and is creating a diversion, maybe even masking the truth.

    Making the public and MSM guess will only work for so long..except with the usual Harper-haters who will translate Iggy’s turn of phrase as infinite wisdom even when they themselves have no idea what he was saying.

    So I wonder what he’s cover up?

    Here’s my attempt at translating Iggyspeak:

    Iggyism: “determined Determination”
    Translation: I have a kitty-cat named Snowball

    Iggyism: likes the smell of manure
    Translation: “why I fit the vision of the coalition”

    Iggyism: tax cuts should be aimed at the lower & middle class, but not necessarily the middle-class
    Translation: I have no idea what either of these are. I also have no plans to speak of of my own.

    Iggyism: holding hands with Jack Layton
    Translation: I wish!! He’s the moneybags of the coalition. He’s got it and I’ll use it.

    Iggyism: “it doesn’t make any sense to me to run against the oil patch”
    Translation: my lips are sore from too much kissing of western butt…who’s got my lipchap?

    Iggyism: I want to tell my story
    Translation: I’m pretty boring but wait until they see my collection of Russian classics.

    Actually, maybe the best strategy that Martin/Chretien/Kinsella/Reid can offer to the good professor is to just don’t talk much??

    What do you mean he’s NOT Dion? He’s exactly Dion but English.

  48. Sandy says:

    Well, well. Great minds think alike. Thanks C.C. I just put up a post about this. Gabby, can you drop the same comment over at my place? I want to make sure I give you credit.

    http://crux-of-the-matter.com/2009/01/17/send-me-iggyisms/

  49. ed says:

    Joanne Says:
    January 17th, 2009 at 7:13 am

    “This post by Pierre-Luc is very good. If my University French can be relied on, I think he is saying that Charest is always acting contrarily in order to position himself against Harper and aid the Bloc, to the point where he is causing Quebec to feel separate from the ROC. ie. He is enabling this feeling of isolation and alienation.”

    Joanne, precisely, and much better said than I could!! :-)

    Here’s my attempt at translation which states exactly what you said:

    Pierre-Luc says:

    Since the rupture with Stephen Harper, Jean Charest has not stopped trying to harm Harper to the detriment of national unity.

    Charest has prevented Harper from gaining his majority while at the same time helping the bloc to maintain their place in Ottawa. He has supported the bloc during the time of this coalition.

    He wants to prevent changes to the equalization policy, a position where he differs with the other provinces. He wants to prevent the creation of a national organism to regulate the financial markets.

    Briefly, he comports himself like a sovereignist who always searches to be contrary to others resulting in Quebec feeling excluded and separated.

    ** Pierre-Luc provides an interesting profile of himself on his website.

    Glad you’re back, Gabby!!

  50. Lorraine says:

    Today’s Iggy speak from the Vancouver Sun:

    “The prime minister must be in no doubt whatever … that our party will vote a motion of non-confidence in this government if we do not get a budget that responds to the national interest of our country. Period. I can’t be clearer about that.”

    HUH???????? Hmmmm – a budget that responds to the national interest of our country. Period. What does THAT mean and in whose judgement????? Ignatieff has not been involved in ANY of the briefings from premiers, mayors, and hundreds of groups. His “briefings” come from a bunch of Liberals , mostly University kids in town halls.

    Oh, and he has Warren Kinsella and TD Bank’s Liberal mouthpiece Don Drummond. Sheesh.

    What possible national insights could Iggy or any Liberal even have to determine whether or not the budget is in the “national interest”.

    And, is he saying that the Conservatives will bring in a budget that will HURT Canada?

    There are thousands literally of people working on this budget and providing briefings and input.But, not our Liberal Wise Man. Iggy has said when asked if he was going to provide any specifics in the budget planning “…it is not MY budget. It is HIS budget. I will ASSESS HIS budget and if he fails we will take him down.”

    So, the Professor will mark the government’s term paper and with his big brain determine what is right or wrong for 33 million people.

    This is trul ego mania run berzerk don’t you think?

  51. Sammy says:

    Thanks CC for the ‘Iggyisms for Dummies’..saves me a lot of time trying to figure it out for myself!
    There is just something about Iggy’s mannerisms as well,that just creeps me out.The way he holds his softly clenched fists up to emphasize a point,or the slow turn of his head..it all seems so orchestrated and ‘unmanly,’ too TO metrosexual for a prairie girls liking.I like men to be men,not phony-baloney,and I’m thinking most women will pick up on that.Gals,what do you think?

  52. Joanne says:

    Iggyism: “it doesn’t make any sense to me to run against the oil patch”
    Translation: my lips are sore from too much kissing of western butt…who’s got my lipchap?

    That was great, CC! You had some other zingers there.

    Everyone is welcome to add to the Iggyisms and I’ll post my favs!

  53. Gabby in QC says:

    C.C. @ 2:48 pm:
    “Hot Chocolate and Baileys helps too Gabby”
    They may help keep my spirits up, they but they wouldn’t help my waistline!

    Sandy @ 2:52 pm
    “Well, well. Great minds think alike. Thanks C.C. I just put up a post about this. Gabby, can you drop the same comment over at my place?”
    I’m a bit confused, Sandy. Don’t you mean for C.C. to drop her comments at your site re: Iggyisms?

    If you indeed mean me and my comment, I don’t know which comment you want … Sorry, I guess I definitely am suffering from brain freeze.

  54. Gabby in QC says:

    Ed @ 2:58 pm: Thanks for the “welcome back!”

  55. Gabby in QC says:

    I remember reading something about Ignatieff’s tough talk a while back. It was here: http://fakestephenharper.blogspot.com/2008/12/talk-tough-like-mike.html
    That’s how I traced back to a Susan Riley column entitled Fight Club.
    I won’t provide the link lest it get trapped in the filter. Just google Fight Club Susan Riley to get to it.
    Here are parts of the first two paragraphs
    “In his first audience with the media this week as Liberal party leader, Michael Ignatieff all but challenged Prime Minister Stephen Harper to a duel at dawn. He came across very alpha male — tough, terse, take no prisoners. “He knows where to find me,” Ignatieff sneered, when asked if he will consult with the prime minister on the upcoming budget. …

    … questioning the new leader’s legitimacy, given that he was anointed by party brass in an unprecedented, hurry-up process on Wednesday rather than being elected by party members at a convention scheduled for May. Snarled Count Ignatieff in reply: “I don’t need any lessons in legitimacy from Harper.”
    Tough talkin’ new man in town:
    “He knows where to find me,”
    “I don’t need any lessons in legitimacy from Harper.”

    Some other Ignatieff quotes to be found in a column by Robert Cleroux (whose style I don’t particularly like) but anyway … Just google Law Times – The Hill: Different man in charge.

  56. Darcy Meyers says:

    He is moving much closer to the middle. This sets up two central parties and isolates the fringe left and bloc.
    This is laying the groundwork for a Conservative-Liberal driven agenda, as opposed to the Dion coalition compromise we currently see. After the budget vote passes, look for the two major parties to arrange stable governance.
    It is an option worth considering.

  57. I watched Iggy on RMR last night and he’s one of the most arrogant people I’ve ever seen. But he certainly is heads and tails above Dion.

  58. Joanne says:

    Raph, I agree. Iggy is arrogant, but Dion was dangerous. That guy scared me. I think he would have done anything to become PM.

    Well, actually we know that is true.

    Darcy, interesting thesis at your blog.

  59. wilson says:

    Agree with Sammy, Iggy is creepy, and he does that thing with his hands and eye roll, with an irritating American drawl. If he was a women, he’d be doing that hair flip thing before commenting.

    Iggy quote:
    “ All that matters is what you said, not what you meant. The political realm is a world of lunatic literalism.”

    Liberal perfection eh,
    say something, but mean nothing.

  60. nomdeblog says:

    “Liberal perfection eh,
    say something, but mean nothing.”

    Or

    Liberal perfection is SAY lots and DO nothing

  61. Joanne says:

    “ All that matters is what you said, not what you meant. The political realm is a world of lunatic literalism.”

    He was probably referring to the world of politics where a misspoken sound bite can haunt you forever… Kind of like that creepy thought of him ‘holding hands’ with Layton and Duceppe.

    We won’t let him forget that one.

  62. Liz J says:

    He’s a Enigma, not a doubt, he’s a master of bafflegab.That’s a cover for the fact he hasn’t got a damned clue about the job he’s in or the one he seeks.

    To get something definite and of substance out of him perhaps would require an emema.

    I’ve had all I can stand of the man already. He’s only just begun his attempt to fool enough people to continue his easy ride to power.

    Iggy, the easy rider, coming to smell a barn near you.

  63. C.C. says:

    Gabby – that Susan Riley piece is priceless.

    It sure makes Iggy live up to his crankly character and puts a lie to any promise to try to work in harmony with the government.

    Ice-in-Veins to be sure.

    Also, I wonder what kind of “story” Iggy could tell Canadians that would make him appear to be more of lover of his country than is Harper? I think he’s goint to try to pull a Obama and create a story for himself. Trouble is how Canadian is it of him to have found his fame outside of Canada? Remember the old “we Americans” speech? Touching, very touching.

  64. Joanne says:

    Yes Gabby. Thanks for that Susan Riley tip! Link here. I love this part:

    If cryptic on the economy, Ignatieff can be expansive on the nobility of rural life in an hilariously, if unintentionally, patronizing way (“I like the smells”). He sometimes speaks as if this is a country of unscrubbed but promising rubes in need only of his gentle guidance — an attitude that could be a problem outside the cosy confines of Ottawa. Once Harper has no more use for him, Ignatieff will be ripe for ridicule.

  65. Sammy says:

    Is Iggyism another term for ‘baffle them with Bulls**t????

  66. MaryT says:

    Perhaps he is not runnig against the oilpatch cause he says he is for national unity. Wonder if he heard some of those radio ads for the Alberta Bloc party while he passed thru. Wonder if he got a message from them, Que isn’t the only prov that could/might separate.
    Re Charest and the premiers meeting-how much influence does he think he has re more money- didn’t he use the last windfall to lower taxes instead of infrastructure etc.
    Then he turns around and stabs PMSH in the back during the election.

  67. gimbol says:

    Recall when Iggy decided to return to Canada to take up his political career?
    Remember who the leader of the liberal party was at the time?
    Would it be plausable that Iggy and Paul Martin shared something in common?

    Would that “thing” be their abuse of the english language and their annoying habit of overloading their speech with as many catch-phrases and cliches as possible?

    On that note I hereby declare the current leadership of the liberal party to be Bucky Dithers part two.

  68. Liz J says:

    Like that part too, Joanne. I don’t usually read her scratchings, it’s a blood pressure thing.

    I have news for her, he’s already ripe for ridicule, problem is the MSM are willfully blind. Imagine if Harper had mentioned going out to smell the barns! That was the ultimate insult and he should be asked about it.
    Any chance Keith Boag would ask him if he’s gone out sniffing barns?

  69. Sandy says:

    Gabby at3:27pm — Yes, that was what I meant — the C.C. comment. I guess my brain was fogged. Too many Iggyisms! LOL

    Now that I have thought about it, however, what I will need to make our Iggyism “list” is at least one link to validate each ism.

    Also, I have decided just to do isms from the time Ignatieff was first elected MP. I mean I could write a book if I start to get into his earlier writings. Heaven forbid — I don’t want that stuff in my brain!!!

    Anyway, if you hear a garbled scream coming from near Niagara Falls, it will be me — when I can’t listen to anymore. ;)

    But, I will do my best to get this “Iggyism Page” up and running before the budget comes down. Since we are a team over here, I will also post it on Joanne’s header (if she has room left and gives me the all clear).

  70. Joanne says:

    Re Charest and the premiers meeting-how much influence does he think he has re more money- didn’t he use the last windfall to lower taxes instead of infrastructure etc.
    Then he turns around and stabs PMSH in the back during the election.

    Right on, Mary T! That is exactly what he did. Well, that’s his call, but then if he whines for more money for infrastructure, who’s to blame? This is a bottomless pit.

  71. Joanne says:

    But, I will do my best to get this “Iggyism Page” up and running before the budget comes down. Since we are a team over here, I will also post it on Joanne’s header (if she has room left and gives me the all clear).

    If you can find room, please go for it Sandy! We may need to do a bit of re-adjusting.

  72. Joanne says:

    Anthony Rota is as bad as Ignatieff:

    Rota said whatever happens, Harper’s leadership has fuelled a high level of co-operation among the opposition parties. The parliamentary turmoil in the fall was provoked by Harper’s proposal to cut public funds for political parties.

    “Stephen Harper, by being a bully and really showing who he was, has really managed to do one thing for Canadian politics — and that is he’s managed to make opposition parties put aside their differences and work together for a strong Canada,” Rota said.

    So which is it, Rota? Are you in it for a stronger Canada or stronger funding for your party?

  73. Liz J says:

    We should be exploiting Iggy’s “poop fetish” more.

    His fascination with Puffins because they hide their poop and his musings about going out to “smell the barns”. He better be careful, it may curl his eyebrows.

    He’s also getting good at shooting Liberal crap with all his doublespeak. Appears as though he’s read their snake oil salesman’s handbook cover to cover.

    His mantra “if necessary but not necessarily” is not exactly assuring or decisive. It tells us he’s flying with the political winds of opportunity in true Liberal style. His arrogance is starting to become more evident.

  74. C.C. says:

    I’m really beginning to hate the Iggyism “The coalition if necessary but not necessarily the coalition.” I liken this phrase to a ransom note to the Harper government with pay-off to the bad guys being the budget.

    Can you just envision a comment like that in time of national emergency or on the international stage?

    Do we know if that phrase is original or not?

    Why should Canadians trust this guy when everthing he’s done so far has been sneaky? From throwing over a duly elected MP from his riding, to pilfering staff from the ranks of the PMO.

  75. Gabby in QC says:

    Translation adapted from Google Translate
    http://www.cyberpresse.ca/opinions/editorialistes/andre-pratte/200901/17/01-818491-le-federalisme-de-fermeture.php

    André Pratte
    La Presse Jan. 17, 2009, 9:11 am

    Closed Federalism
    Premier Jean Charest is wondering what has happened to the open federalism promised by his federal counterpart. The opposition leader, Pauline Marois, has for her part declared the “end of open federalism” in the wake of Stephen Harper’s attacks against the Bloc Quebecois.

    Arguments such as these coming from our political leaders, combined with the rejection of the Conservatives by Quebec voters in the last federal election, show that for most Quebecers, open federalism has value only if it is one-sided. The Canadian government has to be open to the demands of the government of Quebec, but the latter should never be satisfied, should never cease to denounce Ottawa and demand more money and more power. In other words, to the federal government’s open federalism Quebec’s response is a completely closed federalism.
     
    This became clear once again this week when Mr. Charest criticized the feds’ decision to limit the growth of equalization payments. In recent days, it has been said that this decision will deprive Quebec of 1 billion dollars. The cuts to the provinces during the 90s are being recalled. Such statements do not serve the interests of Quebec because they are totally unfounded and, therefore, undermine our credibility vis-à-vis the rest of the country.

    Anyone who followed the discussions on the reform of equalization knows that the Quebec government came out the winner. From 2006-2007 to 2009-2010, even taking into account Mr. Flaherty’s decision, equalization payments to Quebec will have increased by almost 3 billion, an increase of 50%. It was obvious that due to the wealth of Alberta in recent years, under this new formula federal funding would be unsustainable. The finance minister’s decision does not deprive Quebec of 1 billion; equalization payments will continue to grow but at a reasonable rate. Mr. Charest’s anger is that of a spoiled child.

    Whether Stephen Harper’s motives were partisan or not, the fact remains that he has restored fiscal balance in Canada to the benefit of Quebec, and he took a major political risk by moving a motion in the House of Commons recognizing Quebec as a nation. How has Mr. Charest expressed his gratitude? By doing everything to harm the Conservatives in the last federal election campaign. He has even gone so far as to take credit for the recognition of the nation.

    In so doing, the premier showed himself to be the worthy representative of the Quebec electorate, which sent Mr. Harper packing at the polls this fall. Are Quebecers concerned about the fate of open federalism? They should be. The Conservatives, like other politicians in the country, have fully understood the message: whether under Jean Charest or under a separatist premier, the Quebec government will continue to demand more “openness”, particularly of federal coffers. But it is not at all interested in federalism, i.e. mutual openness.

  76. nomdeblog says:

    Thanks Gabby

    “Pauline Marois, has for her part declared the “end of open federalism” in the wake of Stephen Harper’s attacks against the Bloc Quebecois.”

    But Pauline, it is the Bloc that is all about the end of federalism. How stupid do you think we are?

    Pratte makes a good contribution here and it would be helpful if our MSM was on the ball to the degree Gabby is and translated this for the ROC … dream on, because the MSM does not want to educate the voter on this file, that would hurt the Liberals.

    An aspect that does not get covered anywhere is the concept that “strong federalism” doesn’t necessarily (“necessarily” is an Iggy term, why doesn’t he pick up in this?) mean a strong Ottawa. Federalism is about finding the right balance of the division of powers between the Provinces and Ottawa.

    Thus strong federalism can at times mean more decentralization … which is what Charest wants but he also wants more money from the ROC which is hypocrisy.

  77. MaryT says:

    NNW has a story re Iggy and it appears he has changed his mind again re a deficit budget.
    Wouldn’t it be funny if JF had prepared two budgets, one balanced with lots of cuts to unions, cbc, radio canada, sp interest groups etc, and one with a huge deficit. Then he could ask the coalition which one do want. Weeks ago, they spun we need stimulus, now they are changing their mind. Hey Iggy and coalition, it is your underwear you change everyday, not your mind.
    But, with his attachment to manure and puffin poop, is there a difference.

  78. jad says:

    Many thanks, Gabby.

    I don’t want to sound as though I’m making a threat, but I think Quebecers have to realize that the patience of the ROC is being sorely tried, and the sympathy that Quebec used to get automatically has all but disappeared. M. Pratte obviously gets it, but Charest is becoming more and more of a joke in English Canada. From using the payments Harper made to Quebec for tax cuts no-one wanted to the latest little tantrum at the Premiers’ meeting, Charest seems to be moving if not towards outright separatism, at least to isolationism for Quebec.

    The idea that this guy could EVER take over the CPC shows just how out of touch the MSM and in particular the PPG are.

  79. LC Bennett says:

    I missed most of this post. Yesterday was the first day in over a month without an “exposed skin will freeze in 1 minute” warning. So it was a fine day to travel.

    Back to MI….the guy better be careful or he will end up with whiplash from changing political directions so quickly. It would be unfair for him to access our “free” medical care after living abroad for 30 years.

    Seriously, what is it with academic’s snubbing of the middle class? Liberal leaders are completely ignorant about the lives of the majority of Canadian citizens and entire regions of our country. Perhaps they need to spend a little less time in school and the international lecture circuit and more time doing field research.

  80. nomdeblog says:

    “more time doing field research”

    yes on Animal Farm

    in the barn

    with the smells

    Iggy it is not izzy trying to pretend you are not an elitist

  81. Liz J says:

    Why has the fawning media not been following the barn sniffing Ignatieff as he goes smelling the real stuff in and around some barns?

    Of course they’d have to find him suitable attire, coveralls and barn boots to send the right message, he can so relate to the common rubes!

    It’s getting sillier and sillier as he tries to get up to speed in the political game as well as leader of a divided and skint party.

  82. Gabby in QC says:

    jad at 2:00 pm:
    “… but I think Quebecers have to realize that the patience of the ROC is being sorely tried …”

    And I don’t blame RoC one bit. Thankfully, there’s people like André Pratte, who apparently voted yes in both referenda (youth can make anyone do foolish things) write sober commentary like the one posted above, dealing principally with issues rather than personalities.

    Contrast that with the Globe & Mail’s Lawrence Martin, whose Jan. 15 column featured this tripe:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090115.COMARTIN15/TPStory/TPComment/?query=
    “… The Obama approach is that of a consensus builder. The Harper approach is divide and conquer. The Obama world view is of one family. Mr. Harper inclines more toward the “clash of civilizations” template. The new president is about to shut down Guantanamo; the Prime Minister didn’t have much of a problem with it. The new president is soon to shut down the Iraq war; Mr. Harper didn’t have much of a problem with it. [Larry, dear, neither did Mikey]
    In style, Mr. Obama is GQ, Mr. Harper Rotary Club. Mr. Obama is a fine wine, Mr. Harper lime juice. Mr. Obama is relaxed, Mr. Harper suspicious. One is inspirational, the other isn’t. One makes Americans feel proud. The other makes Canadians – except when he’s almost overthrowing his own government – feel indifferent.”

    I’ve never read such sycophantic drivel before.  

  83. Gabby in QC says:

    Nomdeblog at 12:58 pm:
    “… strong federalism can at times mean more decentralization … which is what Charest wants but he also wants more money from the ROC which is hypocrisy.”

    Absolutely – hypocrisy personified. He has certainly lost whatever respect I had for him, which to be honest, was little to begin with.

  84. ed says:

    Gabby in QC Says:
    January 18th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Contrast that with the Globe & Mail’s Lawrence Martin, whose Jan. 15 column featured this tripe:
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090115.COMARTIN15/TPStory/TPComment/?query=

    After reading that, there’s only one conclusion to make: Lawrence Martin is an idiot!! Boy, has this world gone mad!! There’s a sickness out there, some type of brain disease. I get so outraged when I see, hear, or read this sickness!!

    Thank you, Gabby for the research!!

  85. MaryT says:

    Martin has a big shock coming Jan 21, as Stephen Harper will still be the Canadian Prime Minister and O will be Pres of the USA. Gitmo will not be closed any time soon, the Iraq war will still be an issue for a few more years, there will still be unemployed in the USA. The USA will be trillions in debt. It will take some time for the media and liberal voters to wake up and realize they have been had big time.
    2010 will see many first time voters, who were born of Regan era parents, not Clinton/Bush. Who/what will they vote for.
    Remember that iggy is very much like Kerry, flip flopping every day, for the war then against it, for torture then against it, for tax cuts then against them. And there will still be racism in the states.
    The difference is that now all that hatred ect against those that are different has been transferred to Israel and the Jews.
    The next thing iggy has to copy is Kerry’s attempt to be a hunter, only we will see a man in coveralls and a straw in his mouth and red herchief around his neck, trying to impress Albertans. Wont work.
    Iggy is not O, and never will be.

  86. ed says:

    The separatists don’t need the Parti Quebecois, they have Charest and the Liberals!! Look at the history over the past several decades, the Liberals have done more harm than the Parti Quebecois!! I guess that happens when you don’t have courage!!

    Thank God, for reporters like André Pratte!! He’s got it right!! We need more people like him across this country who will speak the truth!!

  87. Joanne says:

    Gabby, thanks so much for those links and the translation. I’ve been having computer problems again today, and just able to check in now. Many thanks for all your research.

  88. Gabby in QC says:

    Ed and Joanne, among others, no need to thank me, although I appreciate it. I’m not good at predictions or forecasts or interpreting polls, which is why I concentrate on finding information whenever I can.

  89. Sandy says:

    Well guys, I have been working on the “Iggyisms” all afternoon and I finally have the “Page” up on my header bar.

    http://crux-of-the-matter.com/ignatieffiggyisms/

    I only used the comments and e-mails I got at Cotm as there are some repeats between here and there. So, if I missed anything, readers can e-mail me at cruxofthematter@ymail.com

    Also, in some cases, I got quotes from more than one person. I tried to keep track but no doubt I messed up somewhere. Don’t hesitate to let me know if I have made a mistake or forgotten something.

    Mind you, there were a few quotes that didn’t quite fit with the notion of “ism” so I didn’t include them.

    In any event, it’s very important that I have a source with the quote — preferably from an MSM site where he is actually quoted.

    Joanne — Check your e-mail.

  90. ed says:

    Hey, Gabby, do you think Joanne needs a new computer, a Mac computer!! LOL Just kiddin’, Joanne. :-)

  91. Joanne says:

    Ha-ha-ha. Very funny, Ed. ;)

    What I really need is one of those Bailey’s that CC was talking about earlier.

  92. C.C. says:

    Just watching Global’s account of the Liberal party meeting today.

    Global shared, and I quote “Michael Ignatieff is borrowing of page from Barak Obama”

    Yes, he is.

    A clip of Ignatieff’s speech replete with a stolen Obamaism “we are the party of hope”. He looked angry,he seems to be talking loudly and forcefully, laying the blame of just about everything on the Harper government.

    I do believe we called it here folks when we wondered not when but IF Ignatieff was going to ride Obama’s coat-tails. We didn’t have to wait long.

    If one followed Warren K’s infatuation with Obama, it wasn’t hard to connect the dots of a strategy.

    Not very original, but there is no way whatsoever that the Liberals can come out as anything close to Obama, simply because nothing about the party, its arrogance or its entitlements has changed.

    Very definately Ignatieff is an angry old white dude who is going to try to get himself elected by storytelling.

    Party of Hope…um, no Mr. Ignatieff. If you don’t cut the coalition loose the citizens of this country will be only to willing to anoint the Iggy led coalition as the Party of Dopes

    Frankly I don’t want an Obama clone running my country.

  93. LC Bennett says:

    MI should consider lowering his aim and try to be Clinton-esque. Then again, Bill had charm. He could try being Hillary-ish. After all, both of them lost in their leadership attempts – HRC to Obama and MI to Dion. MI could easily imitate her icy, nagging elitist style. Does he own a pantsuit?

  94. [...] Even better, she kindly allowed the historical collection to be cross-posted at BLY for everyone’s pleasure and puzzlement. [...]

  95. Norm says:

    Thanks, Gabby in QC, I was beginning to think I was the only Quebecer getting tired of the Charest tantrums.

  96. [...] Now it’s time for me to pull out my Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring, and try to decipher the latest missive from His Enigmatieffness. [...]

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