It’s a ‘new low’, alright!
Using the deaths of Canadians for political purposes.
It is beyond bad taste. It is absolutely appalling.
I wonder how the families feel?
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Update : It gets worse. (H/T Canada.com)
Also please check out ASTTR - ‘I’m Bob Rae, and Stephane Dion approved this message.’
Warren Kinsella obviously condones the new Liberal ad.
Star Phoenix - …Lighten up:
…Remember, his jokes weren’t meant to be heard outside the office. He was conferring privately with his professional colleagues. The indiscretion, if there was one, was that of the disloyal bureaucrat who anonymously leaked his remarks, thus introducing them into a venue for which they were never intended. We can only guess at the motives of an anonymous tattletale, but rarely are they entirely virtuous …
And I wonder what Marc Mayrand would say about the actions of this Liberal MP?
Many thanks to Sammy in comments for this tip - A bit of private black humour has the sanctimonious seeing red: Christie Blatchford.
Sunday Update: Paul McPhail has some questions too - Negative Advertising.
Norman Spector - The Big Loser after Two Weeks? CBC (H/T to Sammy, one of my most reliable tipsters.)
Plattytalk: Simply put, the man is a liar.
Monday Update: Charles Adler nails it:
…The real question to the voter is, "Who is really guilty here of shamelessly exploiting a Human tragedy?" The Conservative Government of the day or their desperate, hateful, and shameless opponents who will say anything to scare Canadians into voting for them?


September 20th, 2008 at 9:50 am
We’re Bob Rae and Michael Ignatief and Stephane Dion approved this message…..
September 20th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Joanne, the bigger story here is the Liberal Party. Ritz comments just became public a few days ago, yet the Liberal Party has been able to produce an attack ad in such a short time?
Someone should ask Dion why he sat on the comments for so long, while at the same time having attack ads made up.
And hey, anyone have a link for Dion’s comments about taking “the high road” in campaign ads?
September 20th, 2008 at 10:17 am
Joanne, the bigger story here is the Liberal Party. Ritz comments just became public a few days ago, yet the Liberal Party has been able to produce an attack ad in such a short time?
Wow! You’re right, Paul. When I saw that ad last night I remember thinking that it was an awfully quick follow-up, but it never occurred to me that this could be part of a Liberal insider plan.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
This looks to me like CTV [ Craig Oliver and robert Fife and Mike Duffy] are working to help the Liberals prepare Canadians for this attack ad.
I have no respect for the CTV. Another Brenda Martin story to help the Liberal Party. The Liberal Party have big debt to CTV now , Craig Oliver clearly spelled this out a few days ago on his blog.
All Canadians need to very afraid of our MSM.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:31 am
I’ve been wondering all this time too, how any government could be responsible for a dirty meat slicer. I don’t think if we had 10 inspectors in every plant that they could find all the bacteria hiding around.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:41 am
I’ve been wondering all this time too, how any government could be responsible for a dirty meat slicer.
Exactly, Ruth. The Government has a responsiblity to do as much as possible to ensure safety in the food chain. If some necessary standards or measures have been overlooked, we need to hear about that.
But ultimately, it is in the best interests of a private company like Maple Leaf to do all they can to ensure a safe product. If they don’t, they will lose consumer confidence and no longer be economically viable.
What Canadians need to hear is an undisputed assurance from everyone involved that they have learned something from this tragedy and that steps have been put in place to attempt to ensure that it will never happen again.
But apparently the listeria bacteria is everywhere, so saying it will never happen again is likely impossible.
The Liberals’ attack on Gerry Ritz and the CPC is actually taking away from what should be the main focus - restoring confidence in the food marketplace.
That is not just the responsibility of government.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Interesting about how the ad was ready two days after the comments came to light - you are totally right - this was a set up!!!
And the media is in on it - how many times yesterday did Stephen Harper - in the same news conference - get asked about Gerry Ritz; and the fact the Libs have abandoned the Green Shift???
Time to fight fire with fire - call these media helpers out - and it wouldn’t take much.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:57 am
This all shows what a formidable force the Big Red Machine (BRM) still is. I have no doubt that the Liberal war room was planning something like this, and is orchestrating the follow-ups to a large extent. This is all kind of a repeat of the 2004 campaign, when an interview of Randy White (”activist judges”, etc)for a CBC “documentary” surfaced in the final week.
The main question now is, at what point will the BRM be seen to be beating a dead horse. There is some more pushback from columnists in todays NNW.
We should be thankful that Dion isn’t able to use the Cadman tape with Harper talking about “financial considerations”. Now if THAT came out for the first time late in an election campaign, then we would be in a whole mess of trouble from the piling on and haranguing of Harper.
Too bad for the LPC that Dion didn’t get the urgent memo from the BRM strategists to be election-ready after Flaherty’s 2008 budget, when Cadman also surfaced.
September 20th, 2008 at 11:03 am
people I wouldn’t worry to much Because the conservatives have a plan remember harper is smarter then the msm and the opposition. they play checkers he plays Chess. you just sit back watch and learn. the polls had no effect yesterday either. especially the nanos poll showed the cons close to majority still.
September 20th, 2008 at 11:07 am
this Bob Rae ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXxe5cq6gSU&eurl
September 20th, 2008 at 11:07 am
This is not the BRM still being a formidable force, this is more about desperation by a party that has lots its grip on power and the ability to use taxpayer funds to keep itself in power.
Take a look at the Liberal strategists on Duffy, Reid and McKinnon for example. These guys are idiots in the biggest sense of the word, always looking for something to scare votes their way, rather than earn votes by doing a good job or putting out good policy.
And the reaction to these ads appear to be the same as the soldiers in streets ad.
September 20th, 2008 at 11:21 am
This ad is from the bowels of liberal desperation.
It says by undertone:
the Canadian food supply is unsafe
the Government is killing people
For eleven (11) years, the meat slicers were not deep cleaned because the manufacturers cleaning guide didn’t advise to deep clean.
For 2 Chretien governments and a Martin government, meat rotting in the depths of a meat slicer was good enough.
Where is the common sense in the industry?
Where is the common sense in the Unions and Inspectors that for 11 years meat was left rotting in machines?
September 20th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Did any Union workers/leaders, Auditor or Government Inspector EVER advise the deep cleaning of the meat slicing machines to Industry or Government?
September 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am
paulstuff, I would agree that the BRM is not as formidable as they used to be. But they are still dangerous.
There are many special interest groups (eg enviro advocates), once-high-profile Harper haters (Joe Clark), and annonymous beauracrats with an axe to grind (the Ritz leaker). So the BRM has lots to draw on. The challenge is to co-ordinate it all, get the media to play along, and create a “narrative” that works to their advantage.
Even if they don’t sway many voters over this Ritz affair, they still motivate their base of LPC workers to keep fighting hard against that “evil” Harper. I’m just saying, don’t take the BRM lightly. Like Harper said when he won the 2006 election, the Liberals are going to fight back like cornered rats.
Luckily for us, Harper is an amazingly composed, savvy, effective, hard-hitting campaigner.
September 20th, 2008 at 11:49 am
I think in some ways,this low,dirty ad will backfire on the Libs.Aren’t they the party that continually berated the Cons. for their supposed ‘American style attack ads?’ I for one,don’t find using the human tragedies that are suffered for political gain very appealing.The biggest farce in all of this,has been the sanctimony displayed by phony “reporters”…for the most part,they are sharp,clever,and witty,and let just one of them come out and HONESTLY say,they have never enjoyed some black humor.I would love to be fly on the wall,in a bar,when they meet…I’ll bet my pay-cheque,that the Ritz comment was minor compared to what is said around that table!I am not condoning what Ritz said,just pointing out the hypocrisy,and making cheap political points out of poor,suffering families.
September 20th, 2008 at 11:53 am
You cannot set a bar so low that a Liberal cannot slither under it.
September 20th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Wilson, you’ve asked some very good questions there, and you point out that the lack of deep-cleaning standards has spanned many governments.
As far as Gerry Ritz goes, if it can be proven that his handling of this crisis has been incompetent, then I think he should resign as Minister.
The only error of judgment that I can see so far (aside from the tasteless jokes themselves), is that he underestimated the vindictiveness of some people to use this as an election issue, instead of confronting him with their outrage at the time.
September 20th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
This in a nutshell is why Liberal’s are so desperate. We have all seen Tory support pretty much firm in the high 30% range. Liberal’s can throw everything, including the kitchen sink, and it won’t change much:
“With Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion trailing his Tory, NDP and Green party counterparts in approval ratings, the Liberals are bleeding support to their opponents. The poll finds approximately 58 per cent of decided voters who supported the Liberals in the 2006 federal election are sticking with Dion’s team this time around, while many others are drifting toward the NDP (16 per cent) and the Greens (10 per cent). And 13 per cent of former Liberal voters say they will vote Conservative.
In contrast, the Tory voting base appears solid, with 86 per cent of Canadians who supported Harper in 2006 saying they will do so again.”
By the way, don’t be at all surprised if Harper turns this ad back on the Liberal’s, showing voters how desperate they are, even using this tragedy to try and secure votes.
September 20th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
By the way, don’t be at all surprised if Harper turns this ad back on the Liberal’s, showing voters how desperate they are, even using this tragedy to try and secure votes.
He would have to be very careful how he framed it, or else his actions would be as slimey as the Liberals. You just don’t use dead people as political footballs.
September 20th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
[...] worst part about this is that, once the Ritz jokes were leaked to the Liberal Party, they sat on the information for weeks as they started to create attack ads (believe me, this is probably the most benign one created for this purpose. Then, once a few choice [...]
September 20th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
I was thinking the same thing actually. For all this talk about a ‘new low’ they’re literally dancing on dead bodies to make a political point.
But that’s been the Grit campaign so far this election. They started it in Montreal at the site of a school shooting to accuse Harper of being ’soft on crime’, they then went to Walkerton to accuse Harper of negligently causing the listeriosis crisis, and now this.
But looking at the polls… I guess people agree with us more than they agree with the Grits.
September 20th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Its starting to look like Gerry Ritz is the one that deserves an apology. This was obviously a set up by the Liberal Party with the help of CTV and the Globe and Mail.
I am still waiting for accountability form the media on the connection of Gloria Galloway to the Liberal Party.
September 20th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Thanks for the link - I stole my post title from your first commenter
September 20th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Of course the Liberals want to play in the gutter, it’s where they live.
September 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Interesting thing happening today on both cbc/ctv news channels.It really appears that they are feeling some discomfort with this latest ad from the Libs.It is crass,low,and surely painful for the families affected.I have been keeping very close tabs on how this is being covered,and usually,anything that throws a negative light on PMSH,or the Cons.is analyzed to bits,keeping it in the spotlight.I note today,that Julie Van Dusen,and the cbc host,just kinda skip over the ad,giving it minimal coverage..and I say good for you.Even the partisan Jac.Milczarek on ctv hasn’t harped on it like she usually would.This to me,shows that the media is finding this as distasteful,and extremely disturbing,as I think most mainstream Canadians do.for the Libs to try and make points,on the deceased is a new low,even for them.
September 20th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I stole my post title from your first commenter
Matt, Eskimo’s comment was very witty!
September 20th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
This to me,shows that the media is finding this as distasteful,and extremely disturbing,as I think most mainstream Canadians do.for the Libs to try and make points,on the deceased is a new low,even for them.
Sammy, I predict that this ad will be pulled by the end of the weekend.
September 20th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Most people, except the perpetually offended, can see the humour in Ritz’s comments. Trying to play Ritz’s jokes into political advantage is about to backfire big time.
As a long suffering Canadian I am tired of having to apologize whenever someone else steps on MY foot.
September 20th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Joe, I agree. There is a great letter today’s Post along those lines:
Will everyone just lighten up about the listeriosis joke made by Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz? Anyone who survived the Second World War in London will testify that it was only through retaining their sense of humour that the English people were able to mentally cope with the horrors around them.
The real villain in this case is the informant. Let’s have his name.
September 20th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
This Post article from back in July may shed a bit of light on the situation, in terms of motive.
September 20th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Looks like Layton doesn’t care for the negative media attention on the dope-smokers in his party! the little shop steward getting quite testy with the media,and questions over his deal with Marijuana Party.He can dish it up,but can’t take it.His response to majority of questions..’they aren’t our candidates’
Anyone catch Dion in Mtl.today? refers to PMSH as “President ‘Arper” again,and announces $533.mil over 4 yrs.for ‘harts and culture’
Dion and Duceppe are now on a campaign to raise the idea that PMSH will shut down the cbc.Dion stated ‘PMSH dreams of shutting it down’ The media Q&A,lots of questions about this,if Dion has proof..’No,but I know they (cons) sent a survey around to ask if the Gov’t should be spending all that money on cbc’ As well,Dion talked about ‘it is the role of artists to “disturb” us’ and there would be no censorship under the Libs.I for one,am NOT willing to pay for anymore dead bunny exhibits,nor ‘art’ that mocks the Christian religion,urine in a jar,etc.If it’s so great,then pay for it yourself! Disgusting.
September 20th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
ABSOLUTE MUST READ (link please Joanne)is Christie Blatchford in the G&M on this topic…”A bit of private black humor has the sanctimonious seeing red”
From the column..and she does a terrific job on cbc/Boag..this stands out..
At the Toronto Star,which gave the late Terry Fox the properly warm and reverent coverage he deserved (I was there then and wrote some of it),the newsroom also had a pool guessing the date Terry would die.
Tremendous article,and FINALLY an HONEST journalist.
September 20th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Thanks, Sammy. Link here.
I’m going to read it now.
September 20th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Sammy, that is an awesome column. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I actually met Christie Blatchford once. She is one of my favourite columnists.
September 20th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
“We can only guess at the motives of an anonymous tattletale,…”
Not difficult to guess. It’s called sabotage.
September 20th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I wonder if anyone from the National on CBC will go interview any of the victims families asking their opinion on the ad.
September 20th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
This is gonna backfire big time on the Liberals.
Canadians won’t be happy watching the Liberals punch listeriosis victims in the gut each night for political gain.
Disgusting.
September 20th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Canadian Press leaked the story on Gerry Ritz’s clumsy attempt to be a little bit lighthearted about this tragedy they had been dealing with for 12 days at the time during and pivate and confidential internal briefing conference call.
Canadian Press are also the scumbags that are tracking down relatives of listeriosis victims for heart wrenching quotes.
Ever wonder how confidentail any of our private and confidential information is in the hands of a government full of dishonest ethically challenged beaurocrats who would leak anything to score points to get their benevolent masters the Liberals back along with nice comfy fur expence accounts and unaccountable cushy jobs for all their friends.
Scary isn’t it?
September 20th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
This is just how pathetic politics has gotten in Canada.
Warning: Links take you to NDP, Liberal websites (for those with a weak stomach)
http://www.ndp.ca/page/6915
http://www.liberal.ca/story_14758_e.aspx
September 21st, 2008 at 6:49 am
Ever wonder how confidentail any of our private and confidential information is in the hands of a government full of dishonest ethically challenged beaurocrats who would leak anything to score points to get their benevolent masters the Liberals back along with nice comfy fur expence accounts and unaccountable cushy jobs for all their friends.
Scary isn’t it?
Lorraine, that is scary alright. I’m sure the vast majority of government bureaucrats are honest, but this isn’t the first time there has been an attempt to discredit the government from the public service.
Where do we draw the line between “whistleblower” and “mole”?
I would suggest that the difference is that the latter is someone who waits until the exact moment where he or she can inflict maximum damage and revenge.
September 21st, 2008 at 6:50 am
Paul, I’m quite happy that those two are going after each other.
September 21st, 2008 at 8:25 am
I don’t find it shocking nor am I surprised that any political party would do or say the things they say …First they are human and we all share a sense of morbidness and can find ourselves chuckling from time to time .
Getting elected ranks very high on all politicians lists to do’s .most are willing to maybe bend or even subvert the truth .I found this little clip that shows how our neighbours to the south are willing and apparently have gone to do so …
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/430.html
I know that we Canadians are a few years behind our neighbours with some things but lets hope politics never comes to this ….
September 21st, 2008 at 10:35 am
Some good reading for a fine Sunday morn:
Greg Weston’s column in Sun Media…looks like the wheels are really falling off the Grit bus.
Norman Spector’s blog post at the G&M;’The big loser after two weeks? CBC’..this is interesting,as on cbc Sunday,Evan and Carole lead off the show with…you guessed it,Ritz,and how the ‘crisis’ was handled.
I do note,and wonder if anyone else has noticed,the Lib.attack ad has seemed to have disappeared.I haven’t seen it,except for yesterday,when it was briefly mentioned in an update on the campaign.I’m wondering if even some Libs found it offensive?
Some tidbits from the Spector piece:
As Christie Blatchford points out in her column this morning,CBC’s the National devoted more than five minutes to Gerry Ritz’s lame humor on Thurs.eve.
More remarkably,this overkill came on the heels of having led with the story the eve.before,when virtually everyone else-print and television-was leading with the meltdown on Wall Street.
Both PMSH and Layton are speaking to pocketbook concerns-each in his own way seeking to persuade ordinary Canadians that he is on your side.Meanwhile,in Vancouver yesterday,the Liberals trotted out Bob rae and Ujjal Dosanjh,two former NDP premiers who took their parties to electoral disaster in Ontario and BC after dismal economic performance during their time in office.
Things could turn around for the CBC in remaining three weeks of the campaign.Perhaps upcoming polls will show that coverage of gaffes is having the desired effect. Or perhaps the CBC will turn it’s attention to adult issues that are on the minds of adult Canadians.
September 21st, 2008 at 10:43 am
Or perhaps the CBC will turn it’s attention to adult issues that are on the minds of adult Canadians.
Or perhaps The Mothercorps will start realizing that providing fair and equal coverage might save their own skin in the event of a Harper majority. Right now they are only making a case why they should be dumped.
Thanks for those tips, Sammy. I’ll check them out.
September 21st, 2008 at 11:04 am
BTW, CTV’s QP is an hour earlier! (On right now.)
September 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Nice to see Taber pussy-foot around the Dipper Dopers with Layton,and totally let him off the hook!!!As well,good of Craig to let the arrogant,smug,Bob Rae lots of time to slag PMSH.I just cannot take his ‘I’m better than you’ attitude.
Next to nothing on QP about the biggest about face of the campaign,with the dump of the green shaft…but,then again whats new?
September 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Sammy, I don’t know why I bother watching that show, except perhaps to keep their feet to the fire.
I’m going to review that episode and I may do a post on it.
September 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Another,somewhat more realistic view of the Lib.campaign from Craig Oliver on ctv’s election blog…and why can’t Craig be a bit more honest on tv,when interviewing hapless libs??? From the blog post:
‘Sincerity,intelligence not enough for Dion’
Many Liberals believe the problem with their campaign began Dec.2,2006 in Montreal.the intervention this week by the two runners-up to that leadership conv. spoke volumes about the decision Libs.had made.
The appearance of the two stars,Iggy and Rae,left the beleaguered Stephane Dion suffering by comparison.there was a telling moment on Thurs.when the Lib leader was fumbling for an answer to a question about Ritz,and Ignatieff stepped in,skewering the ag.min.and shredding his boss,the PM.
Likewise,the day before,Rae had jumped in when Dion was having trouble with answers to questions about the deficit and the economy.
-the mission of the duo is not to save Dion,it is to save the Liberal party.
every day now,the talk is of the team,calling the attention of voters to its bench strength.Across the country,in four provinces last week,I failed to see Dion’s name on any lawn signs-his photograph was nowhere.
There is more to Craig’s piece,but I have a question for any Libs trolling here….hello Gayle…When Dion needs to seek help,answering a reporters question on the campaign trail,how in H.is he going to present himself on the world stage in a major crisis?Can any of you envision this “leader” of astronomical waffling,weakness,and mixed messages,at the UN,NATO,or anywhere?Think back to PMSH speaking on the world stage,and the glowing reviews from other countries on how he presents himself,what strengths he has,and sadly under-reported in Canada because of a highly partisan MSM.I shudder to think of Dion representing us.
September 21st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I wonder what it would take to convince CTV to drop that ‘Mighty Putty’ commercial? Man, that is annoying. I can’t turn the volume down fast enough.
September 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
The ShamWow guy is even worse!
September 21st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Sham Wow. Yeah. Terrible commercial.
You know what though? It works. We remember the obnoxious ones and the product names even though we turn down the sound.
September 21st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Sammy, good questions. I hope Gayle or some other Liberal answers.
Craig does seem more candid on his blog for sure. I wonder why?