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Conservative musings - formerly Joanne’s Journey
September 10th, 2008

Is there a French translator in the house?

Yesterday on MDL, Joël-Denis Bellavance of La Presse tantalized viewers with a preview of today’s big story - L’ex-ministre Jacques Brassard varlope le Bloc.

Bellavance disclosed something to the effect that a former PQ Minister says the Bloc has become the clone of the NDP and is no longer relevant.

I used Google translator, but it leaves something to be desired. I gather that Brassard feels he has nothing in common with Duceppe and his party?

Since my French is a bit rusty, I would love to hear from anyone who could give us a rough translation and thoughts about the article. Thanks.

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Update: CBC says this is having a big effect on the Bloc this morning.

Julie Van D. mentioned that Michael Fortier is scheduled for a presser later on today, which may be related to this subject.

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More recommended articles for your reading pleaure:

Liberal leader proves he’s no rock star - Greg Weston in the Sun.  (BTW, what ever happened to Lorrie Goldstein???)

Dion Stumbles - L. Ian Macdonald

Surrey MP wrote letter in support of drug trafficker - Kim Bolan

So much going on. So little time.

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Evening Update: Layton welcomes sovereigntist’s NDP-Bloc comparison - CTV.

Plummeting Que. sovereignty support good for Tories - National Post.

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Thursday Update: Sovereignty silence bites Bloc - Star.

35 Responses to “Is there a French translator in the house?”

  1. My French is rusty too, so I’m eagerly waiting someone to translate this for us.

  2. Gabby, where are you? lol!

  3. Holy cow,

    The title says in essence that Bellavance is “broadsiding” the Bloc. The rest of the article states that, indeed, the Bloc has become a mere clone of the NDP.

    Furhtermore, Bellavance states that many of the stances taken by the Bloc reflect such a left-wing ideology that many citizens outisde Montreal, including himself, can no longer relate to those positions or the party promoting them. In a telling comment, he states that “he doesn’t recognize himself in this party.”

    He even states that M. Duceppe was completely inappropriate in his attacks on the PM, especially his repeated statements that he and Geoge Bush are responsible for all the evils of the earth.

    According to M. Bellavance, the Bloc is desperately seeking a new mission in Ottawa since putting aside it’s fight for the separation of Quebec. He concludes by launching one final shot across the bow of the Bloc by saying that he doubts many Bloc candidates will be able to pull off a win on Oct. 14th if they continue to espouse these extreme positions and policies.

  4. Well this is my translation Roughly

    The Bloc has become a clone of the NDP on the federal scene since the sovereignty question is on the back shelf.
    Brassard now doubts the utility of this political organization in today’s political climate.

  5. Thanks, Paola and Ken.

    Paola, are you sure it’s Bellavance saying all this, or is Bellavance reporting that Brassard is saying it?

    Thanks.

  6. I am patiently waiting for the MSM to give wall to wall coverage to the story that Lib.mp Brent Fullard has had to apologize to Jewish groups for some anti-semetic remarks.This is the same mp that Dion made big deal of introducing yesterday as the mp that is running against Jim Flaherty,and that job one for him is to ‘fire Flaw-her-tee’
    As well,where is the coverage of BC Lib mp Sukh Dhaliwal writing letter (on HofC stationery) to try and get a HUGE drug dealer some leniency.See headline story at Nat.Newswatch.Funny,NONE of this has been on either national ???news channels this am,just Graham richardson continuing to slam PMSH over ‘puffingate’
    Fair and Balanced…the spin stops here!

  7. Sorry about that, it was indeed Bellavance reporting that Brassard made these comments.

  8. Thanks, Paola. I think this story has legs.

    Sammy, I have links posted to both of those stories as an update at the end of this post. If you see them picked up anywhere else in MSM, please let me know. Thanks.

  9. Sammy - I agree! As puffin poop enters it’s second day; where are the reports about Nazi’s and drug dealers other than on local radio stations. Where is Kevin Newman pontificating about these things; where is Hannah Boudreau shaking her head over the whole thing; where is Lloyd Robertson and Bob Fife whispering in low tones about this setback….

    Oh forget it…. I already know.

  10. Jo,DMB has good link to the Brent Fullard story.
    Last nite on the Braaaaaawdcast,Newman had Polievvre,Brison and some Dipper on,and of course the big story was ‘puffingate’ Pierre brought up the Fullard story,and Newman mocked him!Asked him if ‘one mp’s comments were more significant,than the whole Tory War room screwing up so badly’ …words to that effect.Pierre was asking for Dion to let this nominee for candidacy go,and that B’Nai Brith had asked for apology as well.Newman was LAUGHING off camera,mocking Pierre.BUT,Pierre got it out there,and got results!At end of show,Newman had to say,he had rec’d e-mail from Fullard with a full apology.
    Why is the MSM NOT making a huge issue out of this?Think back about any little off the cuff remark any Cons. has made,and it’s all over the place,yet these 2 huge stories (Dhaliwal/Fullard)….Nuthin!

  11. Wow, that’s not all:

    - he says he’s still a sovereigntist but the BQ doesn’t represent Quebecers outside urban areas and has just become a “typical” leftist party

    - he slams Kyoto and the gun registry

    - says good US relations are important

    - slams them for “virulent attacks” on Harper

    - says the BQ and left act as if they have “a monopoly on the truth”

    - slams Duceppe for going to Hezbollah parades and pandering to Islamo-fascists. Says Duceppe acts like Harper will bring “Fire and blood to the world”, when the real threat is Islamic terrorists

    - accuses BQ of slandering Alberta

    - he won’t reveal how he’s voting

  12. The National Post picked up the Brassard story. I don’t know if the link will work but here goes.

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2008/09/10/duceppe-accused-of-turning-bloc-into-ndp-clone.aspx

    Brassard is right on and he reflects the growing view of Quebecers. This story should be posted everywhere.

  13. Fair and Balanced msm:the G&M has story up about some lawyer that rec’d a Rosh Hashana card from the Cons…finds this ‘troublesome’…but NO mention of Fullardgate!

  14. Glenn in Waterloo Says:
    September 10th, 2008 at 10:30 am

    I just finished reading this article. What a gift to the Conservatives in Quebec. Brassard debunks every one of Duceppe’s early election talking points and makes him look foolish to the Quebec electorate. the equivalent sideswipe outside of Quebec would be like having John Manley come out and lambaste the entire Liberal campaign platform.

    This is a story in Quebec that will not go away quickly.

  15. Grind a Grit to the rescue (My first language is french Joanne):

    “The Bloc has become a clone of the NDP ever since souvereignty has been put on a back burner”

    “The Bloc is out of touch with mainstream Quebecers outside Montreal which have different values”

    …Saying he’s still a souvereignist, who was an influent minister under Lucien Bouchard’s PQ gov., Brassard says it might be time for Quebecers to move on to other things…

    “We don’t talk about souvereignty any more, circumstances have changed even if it was the Bloc’s initial reason to exist. It’s not even part of their platform anymore. They have adopted a left wing discourse with all the usual themes of the left. I’m sorry but I don’t relate to that. I don’t recongnise myself in that party.”

    …The souvereignist tenor says he completely dissagrees with what the Bloc have been promoting in the House of commons…

    ” Take Kyoto, I don’t think it’s a sacred cow we must worship at all, same thing with the gun registry. I disagree with the Bloc completely. Same thing with our troups in Afghanistan or our relationship with the US. All in all I agree with very little of their platform. Souvereignty yes, but that’s in the closest right now.”

    …In this, Brassard becomes the first influencial souvereignist to question the existence of the Bloc in Ottawa. This risks to put Duceppe on the defensive and give ammunition to Harper who is working to convince Quebecers to drop the powerless presence of the Bloc in Ottawa…

    …In a written text to 2 Chicoutimi papers, Brassard denounces Duceppe’s virulant attacks again’st Harper…
    “At the very start of the election, Duceppe accuses Harper of being a Bush puppet and wanting to adopt Republican policies”

    “Like the Bush Republican’s, Harper is promoting free flow of fire arms, sensorship, remove women’s rights…”We will fight again’st the death penalty, again’st throwing kids in jail amongst harden criminals” said Duceppe.

    …For Brassard, Duceppe is way over the top. Listening to them (Bloc), Harper is a smelly incarnation of right wing ideology which in the defenders of vertue (Of the left of course, vertue being a lefty monopoly), propagates injustice, destroys the planete, creates war for pleasure and destroys culture. Associating Harper to Bush, Duceppe nails both to the pyer like being “Ideologic conservatives who leaves behind them economic chaos, fire and blood in the world”.

    “Enough with the garbage, the bin is full” Brassard says, “Like fire and blood have not been first perpurtrated by Islamofascism. It is true that Mr. Duceppe seems unaware of the dark realities of the world as he went parading with Hezbollah, the Lebanese terrorist malisia”

    …According to Brassard it is evident that the Bloc is looking for justification for it’s own existence since the end of adscam. He thinks Duceppe’s troups will have a hard time to get to this election’s finish line he they continue in the same vain…

    “It’s seems the Bloc is devastated by the fact it lost it’s race stallions like adscam and the fiscal imbalance. So he puts out old lefty horses ready for the glue factory (Kyoto, peace, antiamericanism, right wing Nazi, anti gun, dirty Alberta etc…)”

    …In conclusion, Mr. Brassard does not want to say for whom he wants to vote. That’s a secret he says. “But I will go to advance polls, the election will be rioght in moose hunting season and that’s where I will be”

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    So this is the jist of it.
    My own analysis is this: Quebecers are a lot more Conservative (More so outside big urban centres)than they even realize and Brassard just like me, is sensing his Province is drastically changing direction. The silent majority (Right) is finally rising to overthrow the very vocal minority (Left). This quasi revolution seems to be occuring in the rest of Canada too with central Ontario somewhat laging behind.
    It is evident south of the border with the Palin phenomenom which by the way, Brassard’s reference of going moose hunting might have a tinge of connectivity here: Suddently, hunting which has been promoted as right wing neocon, knuckle dragging ambarrassement is now fashonable(?).

    I sense a change in North America and even around the free world. I read somewhere that left wing ideology, dominant since the 60’s is on it’s way out…I believe we are witnessing just this.

    I have said this many times in the past on this blog and others: Quebec will surprize (I said that before Harper got his minority and Qc gave him 11 seats)…This time Quebec will insure a majority. A souvereignist just handed it to Harper.

  16. Wow Joanne — Great catch and some great translating.

    I thoughty our readers should also know about the tip I got from a regular reader via e-mail. Read it here:
    http://crux-of-the-matter.com/2008/09/10/strategic-voting-alert-re-fair-vote-canada/

    The left must be getting desperate to be looking for 1000 activists. So we should stay very alert and not take anything for granted.

  17. Sounds like the heat getting to Layton re the debate.Says now he will agree to May being there,IF PMSH is there.
    BTW,I caught tail end of a segment with Graham Richardson,not sure what it was all about,but…he ended up by saying something about a ‘greenie’ that blogs,that was at the consortium mtg. and there was a hint that there could have been a Dion/May agreement of some kind! Graham ended this by saying ‘the whole story isn’t out there yet,and it ain’t over’ As well,Graham mentioned the decision that May was to run in Peter McKay’s riding was indeed ’strange’ YUMMY,this is gettin good.

  18. To follow previous post,read blog,DanBaril.com.There is some inference that there WAS collusion between Liz/Dion.May was just interviewed on ctv…she of course denies the accusation that Dion offered her a cabinet post! This whole thing is stinking big time…but,it will be interesting to see if Dion is hammered by the msm on the campaign trail.

  19. Joanne, sorry to have missed your SOS! I was otherwise occupied …
    Maybe next time?

    Anyway, I’m glad to see there’s other help available.
    Grind a Grit’s job’s well done!

  20. And now whiny, shrieky Elizabeth gets to be in the debates. I hope it loses her votes!!! I guess it goes to say the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

  21. I like this line from Weston’s column:
    “Baker showed up at a small rally for Dion in Napanee, Ont. — Tragically Hip meets tragically unhip — and said he supports the Liberal leader because the Conservatives “have no respect for culture.”

    Here’s a picture of a protester against cuts to culture funding:
    http://tinyurl.com/5cgkby

    Notice the sign? “… Maybe they they (sic) can paint your war planes Mr. Harper.”
    I guess all the extra funding didn’t do much for him!

    “BTW, what ever happened to Lorrie Goldstein???”
    I read a few weeks ago that he was going on holidays, but I don’t recall the dates.

  22. May’s IN the leadership debate…Harper and Layton back down.

  23. Notice how the media is now telling us that the conservative surge is going down. Isn’t that what you said would happen with polls.

  24. MaryT, if the Conservatives rises too high in the polls at the wrong time it will definitely spook some voters. I would rather have a healthy increase in voter intentions much closer to the election when voters have solidified their views.

  25. Paola’s translation is bang on!!!! nice work and nice to read that insider separatists are starting to understand the irrelevance of the Bloc in Ottawa

  26. Dan Baril on Duff right now! Must read don Martin’s column tonite…Dion’s leaky aircraft finally lifts off!

  27. Thanks to everyone here for all your help with the translations!

    Grind a Grit, I had no idea your first language is French. You don’t even type with an accent! ;)

    Seriously, that was a great translation and analysis. Merci beaucoup.

    I’ve had one busy day out in the ‘real world’, and am trying to catch up now. Man, you leave the computer for a few hours and crazy things happen like Lizzie May getting her way.

    Gabby, I hope Lorrie Goldstein is just on vacation. I don’t see his name in the Sun’s lineup of columnists anymore. Hope I’m wrong and just overlooked it.

  28. “… I don’t see his name in the Sun’s lineup of columnists anymore. Hope I’m wrong and just overlooked it.”

    Mmm, it looks like he’s no longer there.
    http://www.torontosun.com/columnists/

    I remember reading his column where he said he would be off on vacation, and I remember it was a lengthy one, not the usual 1-2 weeks.
    I hope he’s not ill, off for surgery or something.
    Since you have corresponded with him, you may want to email?

  29. Gabby, he’s back!

    Not with a necessarily flattering column this morning for Harper though.

  30. Yikes - that wasn’t so flattering, was it!

  31. AG - No, but that’s the link I’m going to throw back at anyone who says Goldstein’s biased towards the CPC.

    And he’s right. If global warming is such a big issue, than why did the consortium even blink here?

    He’s basically calling their bluff.

  32. Gabby, I had emailed Lorrie this morning before seeing his column and mentioned our concern about him.

    He asked me to tell you that he appreciates your interest. ;)

  33. “He asked me to tell you that he appreciates your interest.”

    I’m glad. Columnists should know that we don’t only think of them when we’re angry at them.

  34. “This means either (a) he’s telling us we’re on our own or (b) he’s pretending and will actually do what the Liberals did about global warming — nothing.”
    Goldstein

    I agree with Goldstein’s column except that in a minority situation with a pure international BS propaganda issue spread and maintained by the MSM (Which Goldstein is part of but to be fair to him, he was always and probably the most vocal but extremely rare journalist again’st the Al Gore lie in Canada), it is hard for Harper to be politically “courageous” without being politically “suicidal”.

    With global cooling underway, a slowing economy and forever high energy cost, I will say that Harper will choose B from the top paragraph except that once the fad has faded enough, the truth will finally come out and Harper won’t “pretend” anymore.

    I’m 100% behind the PM’s tactic here. There is no other way to politically counter this nonsense for now. It’s either that or risk another Liberal government. It has become too big and the left leaning MSM currently holds the spot as the number one culprit in the world’s most succesful sham ever perpretrated on mankind.

  35. Grind a Grit, I basically agree with your 10:18 am post. But, a cautionary note: people should not equate your saying “I’m 100% behind the PM’s tactic here” as the PM being a “denier.”

    IMO, the PM being the intelligent man he is, can see there are some definite changes in our climate.
    Whether the cause is anthropomorphic or not has not been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, and is really irrelevant, but what has been proven is the nonsense of western developed nations alone carrying the burden of cutting GHG emissions and finding additional means of fuelling our cars, industries, and so on.

    If the GHG threat is SO enormous and pressing, then EVERY country on the planet should be trying to do something to reduce their own GHG emissions in their own backyard. That is why Mr. Harper called Kyoto a “socialist scheme” - not because he believes there are NO climate changes taking place, but because he wants every country to act in their own specific way and not simply receive transfers of money from wealthy nations. For us that means a “Made in Canada” plan.

    Think of this: if Harper were a “denier” or even a skeptic about climate change, why would he be pushing his Arctic agenda? There are some changes taking place, but of course not to the hysterical catastrophic extent the Gore sect is preaching. And Canadians should be poised to take advantage of those changes.

    So, sorry, I don’t agree with Mr. Goldstein that Mr. Harper is being hypocritical, and that he’s merely going along for political expediency.

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