Blue Like You

Isn’t that what Bob Ray also wanted - who will give them the most money to solve problems they made? Now Bob wants to be leader of the LIEberals? At least we know from Bob’s record in Ontario what he will do to Canada.

I’d also like to know if Dalton agrees with Dion’s carbon tax on everything?

Dalton McGuinty is getting ready to steal federal elections for Ontario Liberals same way that he stole Ontario provincial elections almost a year ago.

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Political donations in kind.

One just wonders how it all works; twenty days of teachers’ work on Liberal candidates’ election campaigns, how much is it worth??? Same teachers apply to OECTA Provincial Office for release-time funds to cover teachers’ salaries.

If this is not electoral fraud than I do not know what a fraud is.

Teachers are paid from provincial treasury. In order to be able to work teachers have to belong to teachers’ union. Union gets money from teachers’ pay so they are basically paid from provincial treasury. During election teachers’ union sends their members to work on election campaign of political party in power that allocated funds to be paid to teachers and their union during their term in office. Union pays salary to teachers working on re-election campaign of party in power using some of the funds they have collected from provincial treasury.

Nobody is going to tell me that this is not a another Liberano Gang’s scheme and an election campaign slush fund of some sort.

Just read it for yourself how last provincial elections were stolen:

http://www.oecta.on.ca/pdfs/election07agenda.pdf

Ontario English Catholic Teachers Association

==Election volunteers may qualify for release-time funds==

“Case: A member who plans to volunteer during the coming provincial election for the Liberal candidate in her riding, calls to inquire about funding from OECTA, but is not sure how to apply.

Advice: Teachers who plan to volunteer in the coming elections should speak to their unit president about the candidate they want to work for, what they are planning to do for the campaign, and how much time they plan to devote to the election. If the candidate is running in a riding that has been targeted by OECTA provincially, the unit president contacts the candidate or the campaign manager regarding the teacher’s request. The unit president submits the request to the the school board and if an absence is approved, applies to OECTA Provincial Office for release-time funds to cover the teacher’s salary.

Discussion: One of the best ways for teachers to improve learning conditions for students and working conditions for teachers is through direct political action. To support members who volunteer to work during the election campaign, OECTA reimburses school boards for teacher release-time, provided they work full-time for a candidate that has been targeted by OECTA. Release-time commitments vary, depending upon the needs of the campaign office. Some teachers will be able to commit for up to 20 days during the election period and others work for a week or few days. Activities may include everything from full-time jobs doing research or coordinating volunteers to providing a few days of support for computer programming assistance, or organizing fundraising events. Other election activities do not require release-time funds, such as canvassing on behalf of a candidate, stuffing envelopes, or helping new voters get their names on the voters’ list on weekends or in the evening. Many candidates are searching for volunteers to help win this election. Speak to your unit president about what you can do to help elect a government that supports a strong publicly-funded school system. Volunteers will be critical to the success of candidates that OECTA has endorsed and targeted because it will not be possible to get released in every board.”

I hope McG does get involved with any upcoming election. He’s about as popular as a ham-sandwich, and a cylinder of propane right now.

McGunty needs to find out why Federal Liberals did squat for Ontario when in power in recent years first, before he pays to the oracle at delphi.

Joanne, things are actually much worse than what I have presented so far. In addition to what I wrote above consider this: voting stations in all urban areas are usually located in local schools. Counting of cast votes is done on school property after schools are closed on Election Day. Election Commissions overseeing voting and counting of cast votes are made up mostly of people working at local schools. There are many opportunities and great incentives to stuff ballot boxes, conduct biased counting, selective invalidation of cast votes etc.

Knowing how crooked Ontario Liberals are all of the above might as well be a par for the game.

Joanne and all - what Karol says re: double-dipping by teacher/volunteers in campaigns is nothing new. Never so much as a raised eyebrow.

I have also been advised that schools which take part in the Student Vote program in which schools invite the candidates to the school to meet the students, display material and answer questions aren’t necessarily done fairly either. We had situations in my riding where some candidates weren’t informed or the folks organizing the event forgot to tell all of the candidates. All candidates are invited to have their literature displayed in advance of the day of the event. Again, some weren’t told.

—————————–END OF SOL’s COMMENT (ed.)—————————————–

Part II
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——– Original Message ——–

Subject:
“Any allegations of electoral impropriety (whether proved in court or not) are bound to “damage” an electoral system. …”
- but why are these NOT mentioned ?

Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008

To: courtney@sask.usask.ca

CC: …

to:

Dr. John C. Courtney,
Scholar in Residence, Diefenbaker Canada Centre &
Professor Emeritus of Political Studies
University of Saskatchewan

Dear Dr. Courtney,

” John Courtney: Any allegations of electoral impropriety (whether proved in court or not) are bound to “damage” an electoral system. …”

We, concerned Canadians and Ontarians, followed with interest your today’s on-line Q&A
“Expert on elections, scandal, and spending”
at Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080422.welections_discussion0423/BNStory/National/home/?pageRequested=1

We hoped that at least basic / fundamental academic/(political) scientific, so to say, ‘immunity’/'distance’ would enable that Ontarians and Canadians be finally informed about the following interconnected:

A) Elections Ontario gross scandal
(Ontario Liberal / Government - Elections Jun-Oct 07)

and

B) Elections Canada investigation
(against Federal Liberal/Globe and Mail re March 17 2008 federal By-Elections).

Please find the details below.

Do you maybe know of any expert, academic, scholar etc. who you could refer to help us, concerned Canadians and Ontarians, on this matter?

Thank you

Toronto

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A) Elections Ontario gross scandal (Ontario Liberal/Government et al - Elections Aug-Oct 07)

1)
To: ltgov@gov.on.ca, SPeters.mpp@liberal.ola.org, Debbie_Deller@ontla.ola.org, AMarin@ombudsman.on.ca, ….
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:05:12
Subject: File/docs ‘Missing/Vanished’ from Elections Ontario: successfully faxed Complaint on Oct 10, 2007;
also separate complaint not yet found at Auditor General Office

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529266&da=y

[file: "20080417 to All re file, docs 'Missing-Vanished' from Elections Ontario, Auditor General Office.pdf"]

Referenced to in the above document:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=520628&da=y
[file: "20071010 fax transmissions confirmations.gif"]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=520629&da=y
[file: "20071010 to elections ontario.pdf"]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=520630&da=y
[file "20071010-2 to elections ontario.pdf"]

Location of other files referenced to, are now at:
http://on_ca.keepandshare.com

2)

From: Christine Pedias

Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:53:19

Subject: RE: complaints against Ont Gov/Lib Election 07 incidents, irregularities]

CC: Gary Peall

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529239&da=y

[file: "20080418 Christine Pedias, Office of Auditor Genral of Ontario.pdf"]

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B) Elections Canada investigation
(against Federal Liberal/Globe and Mail
re
March 17 2008 By-Elections).

1)
From: “CBC Ombudsman”
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:40:04
Subject: Re: fwd: fundamental journalistic duty/responsibility: inform Canadians re Election Canada ALSO investigating fed Libs

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529204&da=y

[file: "20080416 reply from Vince Carlin re coverup of Elections Canada ALSO investigating fed Libs.gif"]

2)
From: “CommissionersOffice”
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:49:33
Subject: RE: fed By-election complaint - G&M Advertising Libs during black out

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529205&da=y

[file: "20080401 Elections Canada Commissioner reply.gif"]

3)
To: CommissionersOffice@elections.ca
Sent: March 17, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: fed By-election complaint - G&M Advertising Libs during black out

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529206&da=y

[file: "20080317 to Elections Canada Commissioner against G&M Advertising Libs during black out.gif" ]

Referenced to in the above document:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529207&da=y

[file: "20080317 to Elections Canada - screenshot of online G&M Advertising Libs during black out.jpg"]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=529208&da=y

[file: "20080317 to Elections Canada - webpage of G&M Advertising Libs during black out.pdf"]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=520629&da=y

[file: "20071010 to elections ontario.pdf"]

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=520630&da=y

[file "20071010-2 to elections ontario.pdf"]

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Part IV
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——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Acknowledge Receipt / Accusé de Réception

Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:36:36 -0400

From: Dion, Stéphane - M.P.

**À notez le texte français suit

On behalf of the Honourable Stéphane Dion, we would like to acknowledge receipt and thank you for taking the time and effort to send your correspondence.

It is an extraordinary feature of our democracy that there exist clear lines of contact between ourselves and our elected representatives. However, this freedom does not come without limitations. Due to the high volume of correspondence that we receive,
in some cases where a detailed response is needed, it may take some time to reply.

Mr. Dion always appreciates hearing from Canadians and being made aware of their views. Be assured that the concerns you have raised in your letter have been reviewed and noted.

We are confident that working together, we will achieve Stéphane Dion’s vision for Canada.

Sincerely,
The Office of the Honourable Stéphane Dion
Leader of the Official Opposition
Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada

Re: File/docs ‘Missing/Vanished’ from Elections Ontario - Thanks for all this. It will require some reading and analysis. Any comments from readers are appreciated.

Joanne - could you please add a seperation (a line or something) after my last post to this blog because it appears that Karol’s post is an extension of mine…it’s not.

I think this is huge.

Is the honeymoon over for the education Premier?

I read parts of the news coverage of this press conference yesterday where ed. Minister Wynne actually threatens to scale back a percentage of the 3% over four years to 2%.

Can you JUST imagine that blood and guts if either a Mike Harris ed. minister or Bob Rae minister for that matter had threatened EFTO that way?

If the teacher unions don’t watch it this could be a huge PR blunder for them that could backlash given the bend-over relationship between teachers and the ed. minister so far.

Parents - get ready for a fall of whines and drones from the usual suspects.

Under Corrections notices at TOR. Apparently McGuinty allocated $2.1 million to Conestoga College, but the correction notice reported it was actually approx. $21 million. The article may need to be repeated in print, so the public is aware of the wide discrepancy. We need to know (as in annual reports) exactly where the funding monies are allocated? The dupboards are bare, largely due to mismanagement and worse, IMO.

Fact is, people are moving to cushion themselves against rising inflation and where you can achieve that you will of course.

That’s invaluable information up top that’s finally surfaced. That story involves to the effect, “I elect myself (again and again), I pay myself and every added perk gets tacked on, even as I perform as a volunteer, and I get to influence the rising generation to emulate me, MOI, MOI, and more of the same.

Will we get independent reviews and supervision of the entire election process this time. You think outside community members volunteering are going to solve the above problem. I doubt it.

Wishing Sandy a speedy recovery from the virus as my daughter suffered with it for a week and boy, was she congested.

I imagine she knows all about the ballot counting procedures at the schools and her take will be interesting.

I would like to know how much of Ontario’s health tax is going to keep the teachers happy? Further while the health system in Ontario is far from improved under McGuinty, why are we shortchanging taxpayers on health.

That’s not Harper’s doing….that’s all McGuinty’s pandering for votes.

Note: re: virus - I had it too and I have to tell you it knocked me for a loop for a good three weeks until I felt half-normal.

can you please remove the following two duplicates:

Did I get that right? Sometimes comments with many links get caught in my spam filter, and then I have to check and unleash them later.

Joanne,

Going back to your previous post “More Liberal Arrogance” it seems to me that Dion is very much under the influence of McGuinty brothers. Steve Janke in his recent post “Liberal blogger’s brilliant carbon tax analysis” presented very cynical view of Dion’s “Carbon Tax” as a way to buy votes in Ontario and Quebec using money stolen in Western Canada. If one assumes that sexual deviants surrounding Dalton McGuinty are controlling public opinion polling companies in Canada and are cooking results of public opinion polls in Ontario, and if one assumes that Dalton McGuinty’s cronies are able to stuff ballot boxes to reflect results of these cooked polls than any “excuse” will do in order to validate such crooked results.

Cynical explanation of such “voting phenomena” offer an advantage in that nobody is willing to touch stinking issues and try to dissect them in order to find validity of such explanations.

Last provincial elections were perfect example of how such things get accomplished in Ontario. John Tory took the high road and tried to get elected on promise of public funding for religious schools. From a moral perspective it was cut and dry, Catholics get public funding so should other religious groups.

Dalton McGuinty who have won previous elections with help of school teachers had it guaranteed that he was going to steal election and all that he needed was an excuse in order to cover up his electoral fraud. He needed an excuse that would be so morally repulsive that nobody would be willing to examine closely validity of it. John Tory handed Dalton McGuinty such perfect excuse on a silver platter. Tory’s initiative on school funding issue “validated” active involvement of teachers and teachers’ unions in electoral process “as their own effort” to protect their own turf and their portion of public funding pie. This explanation was so repulsive that nobody was willing to look behind the curtains to see who was pulling all the strings.

It seems to me that cooking of votes in Ontario has a long tradition and it seems that provincial Tories were as guilty of it as McGuinty’s Liberals and this is why they stayed completely quiet when Liberals pulled their stunt.

If Dalton McGuinty wants to pull same stunt in upcoming elections he might be in for a nasty surprise. Conservatives under Harper have not been in power long enough to be guilty of such blatant manipulations. Their recent battles with Election Canada paints E. C. as a Liberal lap dog and E. C. raid on Conservative Party Headquarters paints them as highly partisan organisation.

Stage is all set for an all out confrontation on this particular issue between CPC and EC. In my personal opinion there is no way that Conservatives would neglect to conduct their own public opinion polls and trigger an election but strangely none of the results of such polls are being released to the public. One would have to ask himself why is that?? If Conservative paid for polls show Conservative popularity much higher that what is publicly reported it would only help Conservatives so why they are not publishing them??
The only explanation that I could come up with would be that they are getting prepared to fry much bigger fish. Once elections are over and electoral fraud does takes place and accusations to that effect are made they would have to be backed up with some evidence and detailed results of large scale opinion polls would come very handy.

All of the above is highly speculative due to the fact that Canada’s international opinion would suffer as a result of revelations about electoral fraud, also Canadian public would get disillusioned and public participation in direct democracy would suffer as a result of such developments.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080903.wharperwindsor0903/CommentStory/National/home

fight there too …