Blue Like You

Conservative musings - formerly Joanne’s Journey
July 14th, 2008

What makes you keep coming back?

After just having returned from several blissful days of golfing, swimming and a wee bit too much partying, I’ve achieved a more introspective view of the activity of blogging.

As Sandy notes, it can take over your life to the point that you feel compelled or obligated to write something when someone sends you a tip or you see something in MSM that angers you, or some new story breaks.

Another problem is that many bloggers become addicted to their own stats and can’t take it when their readership begins to decline. So they try to pump it back up with provocative posts designed to increase their hits and promote a lively discussion.

And trust me, they don’t do it for the money. A blogger solely relying on revenue from ad sources would be living far below the poverty line.

Personally, I blog for the purpose of being able to vent, and to allow my readers to do the same. Sometimes they agree with me, and often they don’t. But we try to keep it civil.

My question to you is, why do you keep coming back to read a particular blog? What attracts you and makes that blog part of your daily routine?

Some bloggers grow a large readership by making liberal use of four-letter words while pillorying other bloggers. It becomes their modus operandi, and they spend their days trolling the blogs of rival bloggers for fodder in their next mud-flinging campaign.

The interesting thing is that these types of blogs can have a substantial readership which tells me they are fulfilling some kind of need far beyond a particular political partisanship.

My theory is that just like rubberneckers that seem fascinated with car wrecks on the highway, these readers get some kind of schadenfreude-ish kick from seeing a blogger with opposing views being humiliated and defiled.

Perhaps it is addictive, the way porn or gambling can stimulate certain brain centres.

Anyway, those are my theories and I would love to hear from you. Are you one of those people that regularly visits blogs that put other bloggers down?

What about this blog? Why do you keep coming back here?

Please enlighten me. Thanks in advance for your input.

52 Responses to “What makes you keep coming back?”

  1. Larry Currie Says:
    July 14th, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Some feedback - I read your blog routinely because of your ability to take topical issues and present them in a clear, no-nonsense fashion. As it happens, I agree with you on most issues but even if I didn’t, I enjoy your writing style and choice of topics. Keep up the good work.

  2. Thanks, Larrie. Much appreciated.

    In fact it’s comments like yours that keep me doing this.

  3. jo,

    first, welcome back…missed ya!

    there are a few blogs I read every day…yours being one of them.

    I come back because it is nice to know that there are like-minded people out there- even if we don’t agree on every topic :)

    I certainly don’t get that from much of the MSM these days…

  4. Gabby in QC Says:
    July 14th, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Welcome back, Joanne. It sounds like you enjoyed your break.

    Why do I keep coming back?
    • I like your non-confrontational approach.
    As you said, you try to keep the discussion civil, unlike some other bloggers and their regulars, who practise the “upmanship” way: who can come up with the “smartest” putdown.
    Even with opponents, you manage to keep a sense of humour.

    • Your posts are well documented and informative.
    You provide plenty of links to support your arguments, but also point to articles that differ from your point of view.

    • Your posts are well written, in clear intelligible language.
    I may be a nitpicker, but it puts me off when I read a post that appears not to have been proofread.

    • You maintain a personal touch, trying to respond to almost all commenters, which must be time consuming for you.

    • Personally, I don’t understand the need for posting more than one post per day, as I see some other bloggers do. Maybe that would reduce the time spent on the computer?

    Those are some of the reasons why I keep coming back here.

  5. feedback -

    1) I frequent blogs which treat me as an intellectual, don’t talk AT ME but discuss issues WITH ME. Ranting for the sake of hearing or seeing your words on a screen really doesn’t cut it for me.
    Blog owners who come off as entitled or know-it-alls turn me off. Not you Joanne…I think you’re fair and lean on folks when appropriate.

    2) there’s also a sense of comfort that folks out there think and feel about issues the way I do. Sometimes that translates into a Misery Loves Company feel(way too much of this I think), while at other times it can encompass a positive pride feel to it(like Sandy’s list of Harper’s accomplishments).

    3) I too enjoy your style. You speak in plain language and don’t remind me every two seconds as to what your qualifications or experiences are…which I like. You’re real grassroots.

    4) There’s also a satisfaction in some of the humour
    on your blog. It’s so necessary and I often think we need more of it. God knows Canada is a very funny place.

    5) I also do like that you take a break from time to time and don’t get too sidetracked….although it can happen on breaking news items.

    6) I like also that you relate your local experiences in Waterloo. Gives us a chance to compare your region to ours.

    Anyway that’s why I prefer your blog to most. I also visit Kinsella’s blog because I find him oddly entertaining in a car wreck kind of way. Maybe that’s the blogging equivalent of rubbernecking. I also like Calgary Grit on the Liberal side of things.

  6. Larry, Tori, Gabby and Sol have summed it up quite nicely. I read daily, even though I may not comment much.

  7. Thanks for the kind words, Tori. That’s true about like-minded people wanting to get together to discuss things.

    And I make no pretention about what party I support, although if there is a screw-up, I try not to gloss over it. I suppose that John Tory is a good example of that, although he wasn’t totally to blame for the past election disaster.

  8. TangoJuliette Says:
    July 14th, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Jo:-

    the earlier respondents have fairly well covered all the bases.

    That — and your temperate approach to trolls and boors, even the even-handed way you handle dolts like me -
    tj

    t.e.&o.e.

  9. TangoJuliette Says:
    July 14th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Jo:

    Don’t forget. Encourage all those you know, to send a missive of congratulations to those giants of France: Nick Sarkozy ad Steve DeYawn. Wish them and their fellow
    country-men, and -women: Happy Bastille Day!! Storm the Barricades!

    Because, as Kermit the frog sez: It ain’t easy being green.

    tj

    t.e.& o.e.

  10. Thanks for the warm welcome back, Gabby. I must say right off the bat that I really appreciate your comments which are also always well-documented and informative.

    Your posts are well written, in clear intelligible language.
    I may be a nitpicker, but it puts me off when I read a post that appears not to have been proofread.

    I appreciate that you notice that. I do try my best to proof-read and make sure that all the links work. I test each one right after publication and make any necessary changes.

    And if anyone does notice a spelling, grammatical or technical error, please let me know. It is always appreciated as long as the tone is not sarcastic. Thanks.

    You maintain a personal touch, trying to respond to almost all commenters, which must be time consuming for you.

    I used to be better at that than I am now. Somedays it is impossible to reply to each comment personally. But I do read each one and am grateful for them (or at least most of them). ;)

    • Personally, I don’t understand the need for posting more than one post per day, as I see some other bloggers do. Maybe that would reduce the time spent on the computer?

    That is a very significant point, and thanks for mentioning it. We are bloggers, not news reporters. I believe this is where burnout starts - when you feel you have to cover every news item that comes along. It is impossible and it lowers the quality of the writing, IMHO. I have been guilty of it myself.

  11. a suggestion - it would be wonderful if you could offer some interactive surveys or polling on issues like Jack and Sandy have done from time to time.

    If you read Gerry Nicholl’s blog today he’s got a great article there that will explain why it’s important for any political party to get their message out loudly and often. One thing we seem to lack is any polling from conservative pundits that we can hold up to media as examples.

  12. Feedback. I am not a professional blogger, just a recently retired granny who likes to express her opinion once in awhile. Larry, Tori, Gabby & Sol summed it up nicely. I began by reading MSM online and quickly discovered they did not appreciate Conservative comments. I literally stumbled onto ‘Blue Like You’ during the Brenda Martin story and immediately felt comfortable on this site. Especially when I read comments from other bloggers that MSM really do not like Conservative comments. I knew then that it wasn’t just me. I have visited a few blogging sites, as a tourist, that I have seen listed on your site. Thank you for allowing an ordinary person to express her opinion.

    I do have a vent today. I will be back later to sent it through.

  13. Jo, I agree with all the other posters so far. I read your blog because of the choice of topics, the humour, the even-handedness of your responses. By responding as much as you do, you really encourage a discussion. As someone who posts quite often on a variety of blogs, I really do appreciate a response, from the blogger or others.

    Going O/T here, the Wicked Witch of Macleans has posted Green Shift’s Statement of Claim here. Scroll down to Defendants’ Prior Knowledge of Green Shift, section 20 for something to give you a big smile !

  14. Thanks, Sol. I appreciate your thoughtful comments.

    You speak in plain language and don’t remind me every two seconds as to what your qualifications or experiences are…which I like. You’re real grassroots.

    Well, its easy to be non-pretentious when you don’t have any significant qualifications. ;)

    I enjoy Calgary Grit and Kinsella as well, although I rarely agree with the latter. He is a good read though.

    …it would be wonderful if you could offer some interactive surveys or polling on issues like Jack and Sandy have done from time to time.

    If you read Gerry Nicholl’s blog today he’s got a great article there that will explain why it’s important for any political party to get their message out loudly and often. One thing we seem to lack is any polling from conservative pundits that we can hold up to media as examples.

    Thanks for that suggestion about the poll. I’ll look into that.

    As for a blogger’s poll having any kind of credibility or reliability though, I have to caution you that the results would not be taken seriously.

    I will check out Gerry’s post though. Thanks.

  15. Today’s vent. “Expert Contradicts Cadman Tape Claims.”
    subtitle: “more evidence needed to declare recording as doctored says former FBI agent hired by Harper’s lawyer.” By Tim Naumetz, the Canadian Press, July 14, 2008.

    The title of the article appears to contradict the content of the article?

    “Mr Koenig reported irregularities in the copy tape and portions where an earlier recording had been taped over, but concluded Mr. Zytaruk’s original recording, his tape recorder and an external microphone if Mr Zytaruk used one — “are required to conduct a conclusive authenticity examination in a forensic audio laboratory.”

    “That kind of examination is required to “scientifically” determine whether the original information is truly original or has alterations, such as deletions or additions, Mr Koenig said in the report he submitted with his own sworn affidavit.”

    If Mr Koenig’s examination has only been partially completed (he still needs to exam the original tape); how can Tim Naumetz draw the conclusion that Mr Koenig’s findings contradict the other two anaysts?

    It is interesting that Tim Naumetz drew his conclusion before all the evidence has been analyzed?

    Thank you for letting me vent!

  16. Hi Joanne

    I agree with everthing people have said. You are a wonderful writer and there is an easy going tone to this site. The others who frequent your site are respectful and informative. There is a comfort level here that I like - it’s almost like chatting over a coffee with some friends.

    Your kindness comes through with the way you deal with others (even the mean ones). I’ve often thought that you would be a person I would like to hang out with in the “real” world. The blogging world needs more of you.

    Barb

  17. Hi Joanne,
    I’ve been reading a few different blogs on a regular basis, getting a range of opinion on issues. I like yours because it’s fair and balanced, and I do check in every day - almost - unless you are writing on an “Ontario” issue; then, I tend to skim. But I think you do a great job! Don’t know how you find the time for it all!

  18. Thank you for your dedication. Your blog is one of the best out there. You bring information and common sense insight to the issues that matter to most of us. Canada needs you Joanne. We cannot rely on the MSM to bring out the facts and the truth. Thank God for the blogosphere. Keep on blogging but don’t let yourself burnout.

  19. I agree with what the others have said. I like your blog because you let your personality show, you do not just link to an article, you give your opinion on it as well, allowing us to either agree or disagree with you. Keep up the good work.

  20. Joanne,

    Yours is the blog I visit to get a pulse on right-wing bloggery. So, here’s how it works for me:

    I start at National Newswatch. I head to Calgary Grit for a “soon-to-be-Tory” perspective. Then to Cherniak for the dogmatic Liberal thought of the day. Swing past Coyne, Kinsella and Wells for the professional take. Finish at your blog.

    By then, I have a good sense of what the talk of the town is. Additionally, as a Quebecker, I like to read your blog because you do a good amount of Ontario politics, so I get a flavor of what’s going on there.

    AS to “why blog”? Well, if a butterfly in Africa can change the course of a storm in Canada by flapping its wings, surely getting a few hundred people to hear your perspective can have some real impact.

  21. DWT - Please feel free to leave a comment anytime. Truth be told, I do this for the feedback - whether positive or negative.

    That — and your temperate approach to trolls and boors, even the even-handed way you handle dolts like me -
    tj

    TJ, I may not always understand exactly what you’re trying to get at, but I’m luvvin’ it! ;)

  22. Kathy, thanks for your comments. Your second one at 12:43 exactly mirrors what I was thinking about the story. Talk about torqued headlines!

    Actually, you said the whole thing much more eloquently than I could have, so thank you for that. I may use it as a jumping off point for a future post.

    Ever consider starting your own blog?

  23. [...] difference from the original headline. As reader Kathy observed in a previous post: …If Mr Koenig’s examination has only been partially completed (he still needs to exam the [...]

  24. Thanks for your blog Joanne, and keep up the good work. Unlike some of the other people commenting, I don’t read the Liberal blogs very often. They just aren’t for my way of thinking.

  25. …As someone who posts quite often on a variety of blogs, I really do appreciate a response, from the blogger or others…

    Thanks, Jad. And thanks for that link to the Wicked Witch of the Left. ;) Garth continues to be a liability for the Liberals.

    I do try to respond but as I mentioned earlier, it is sometimes absolutely impossible to respond to every comment. I am trying to do so today though, due to the nature of this post. I am really appreciating the feedback and suggestions.

    …Your kindness comes through with the way you deal with others (even the mean ones). I’ve often thought that you would be a person I would like to hang out with in the “real” world. The blogging world needs more of you.

    Wow, that’s very kind of you, Barb! Yes, this is the fun part of blogging - that like-minded people from all over Canada can be chatting and exchanging ideas and opinions. It’s a vast country but the internet means we can all connect here.

  26. Marian, thanks for the nice compliments. Regarding Ontario politics, I appreciate your mentioning that you ’skim’ those. I must remember not to dwell too much on Dalton. It just makes me angry anyway.

    How do I find time for it all? Well, some things suffer. My housekeeping, my husband…

    Part of why I try to get away from it once in a while is for balance, and to remember that there’s more to life than blogging.

  27. …Your blog is one of the best out there.

    Thanks Frmgrl. Again I’m blushing. I wouldn’t be doing this without the support of folks such as yourself.

    I like your blog because you let your personality show, you do not just link to an article, you give your opinion on it as well, allowing us to either agree or disagree with you. Keep up the good work

    Thanks, Hunter. Again that goes to the nature of a blog which should be a jumping off point for a discussion - not simply a news site.

  28. lol! Chucker, I love the butterfly comparison.

    And glad you enjoy the Ontario stuff.

    Now here is my question - Am I the Conservative equivalent of Cherniak??? Yikes!

  29. Hey Jo,
    I came across your blog during the whole Brenda Martin sickening saga,and I need to come here often to ‘vent’ as well.As for the addiction possibility,that is true.I am a johnny-come-lately to the political blog junkie status,and hey…it’s way less disgusting than porn,and a lot cheaper than gambling!! We need a blogoholics site,and maybe some meetings eh? My blog name is Sammy and I’m a blogoholic!

  30. Thanks for your blog Joanne, and keep up the good work…

    Ruth, thanks for your kind words and input. Comments are an important part of this process.

  31. I can yell at my wife, or even my cat, when I’m upset, but this is much more satisfying.

    Listening to Liberal sycophants define what it is to be Canadian, of course in their own self-centred terms, and slagging them for it, is entertaining enough.

    As frequently as I disagree with the direction of the CPC and Harper, I’m pretty sure they’re not setting up a scheme to steal taxpayer’s money to the benefit of themselves. The LPC became institutionally corrupt, and still hasn’t purged itself.

  32. My favourite thing about blogging is the discussion, so if I have a large reader support, it doesn’t satisfy me as much as seeing comments. Speaking of, when some of my regulars disappear for a while I often wonder if I said something to offend them and I worry they won’t come back. I suppose that’s one of the odd things about running a blog. You end up looking forward to the regulars and you gauge your blog by their reactions. It keeps you honest.

  33. My favourite Joanne quirks: we both think John Tory stinks on ice, and is the reason for the (continuing) destruction of the Ontario PC party!

    We also both voted for Bob Rae in the ’90’s. Worse, I voted for Chretien back then, in a protest against PC corruption. Ironic, n’est pas?

    We’re a sad pair.

  34. I also like the free donuts……

  35. I have to admit, I’ve become addicted to political blogs. I read about 80 blogs daily, sometimes more. A mix but mostly Conservative and with Liberals thrown in just to keep an eye on them!

    For me, it started during the last provincial election (Ontario) when I came across blogs by accident and because I had a personal interest in the election’s outcome, I read them faithfully and found alot of information that normally wouldn’t have come to light for us.

    Since then, with absolutely nothing of interest happening at QP, I now am an avid reader on federal politics. It makes my blood boil how slanted the MSM is against Harper and his government.

    My absolute favourite blogs are yours, Angry in the Great White North, Climbing out of the Dark and Crux of the Matter. Your blogs always have the latest news presented in a not-in-your-face way, and you offer your readers a chance to offer their thoughts and opinions without treating them like idiots if they disagree with you.

    Please keep it going. Your blog is great and appreciated by many!

  36. Joanne,

    there can be only 1 Cherniak. God bless him.

  37. We need a blogoholics site,and maybe some meetings eh? My blog name is Sammy and I’m a blogoholic!

    lol! I think there are a lot of us who should be attending those meetings. I guess I owe Brenda Martin something for the extra readership she brought my way though. Actually I heard the other day that she is well into a plan to make a movie, and is hoping to move to Kitchener someday. Oh joy.

    My favourite thing about blogging is the discussion, so if I have a large reader support, it doesn’t satisfy me as much as seeing comments…

    Interesting thoughts, Raphael. I suppose it’s the same with me. If a post isn’t getting any comments but still getting a lot of hits, I think to myself, ‘Boy did I screw that up or something?’ But usually it’s because I accidentally turned comments off. ;)

    Moebius, you’re too funny, but I have to correct you here: “we both think John Tory stinks on ice”. That’s you, my friend who thinks that. I think Tory is a bit bone-headed, and has poor judgement, but stink? Nah. Dalton’s the one who stinks.

  38. …My absolute favourite blogs are yours, Angry in the Great White North, Climbing out of the Dark and Crux of the Matter. Your blogs always have the latest news presented in a not-in-your-face way, and you offer your readers a chance to offer their thoughts and opinions without treating them like idiots if they disagree with you…

    Karmat, I feel very privileged to be included in such great company. Thank you.

    The message that seems to be coming through here is ‘respect’. I think there is a tendency among some bloggers (especially left-leaning) to either attack the commenters when they don’t agree with the writer, or to allow personal attacks among the ‘guests’.

    I try to discourage personal attacks, because it tends to sidetrack and degrade the discussion.

  39. there can be only 1 Cherniak. God bless him.

    Amen to that, Chucker.

  40. Thank you Joanne. Never have thought about starting my own blog. Definitely an idea worth considering. At this point, I am just happy to have an opportunity to express an opinion now and again. I really enjoy reading bloggers’ comments and perspectives on issues. Thanks again.

  41. My pleasure, Kathy. I hope you continue to comment here even if you do decide to start your own blog.

  42. Oh yeah..I forgot to mention I come here as well,to “wash off” and cleanse myself after trolling O’Malley/Delacourt/Liblogs in general.Hope you don’t mind..and having just visited the Blonde Bimbo Kady’s blog,could you pass me some bleach,and a towel???

  43. Sammy, lol! I hear you. I feel that way whenever I read anything by Antonia Z.

  44. Sorry Jo..I just can’t do Antonia.My B/P,and weak stomach won’t allow it.Only so much filth one can take in!!

  45. Tori, Gabby and Sol did hit it, right off the top. You’re smart, and civil, you have a sense of humour, and your posts are well-written. I must admit though, that those attributes alone wouldn’t necessarily be enough to cause me to return, as I do, as a daily reader and occasional commenter; the “X factor”, to me, is a subtle, particular, hard-to-describe combination of common grace and guts which is somehow more than the sum of its parts.

    David Thompson (dot typepad dot com) is, to me, a good blogging example someone having the full measure of both attributes.

    By way of pointed comparison, Jason Cherniak has common grace. Full stop.

    I dated a woman from France — turned out she was 32 and a bit, ha ha ha — who had a saying, a phrase that sort of sums it up, she’d say of a particular person who was socially popular, a bon vivant, highly amusing, etc., “ah, but could you trust (him her) in a war?” I knew what she meant. Integrity and merit require “guts”.

    Sense of humour too, is really important, as others mentioned. All the blogs I go to daily, with one exception, are run by someone with a sense of humour.

  46. Moebius, you’re too funny, but I have to correct you here: “we both think John Tory stinks on ice”. That’s you, my friend who thinks that. I think Tory is a bit bone-headed, and has poor judgement, but stink? Nah. Dalton’s the one who stinks.

    That goes without saying. But which PC leader condemned us to endure Dalton’s brilliant economic plans for the next 5 years? It wasn’t Mike “the Spike” Harris!

    Poor judgement is an understatement for a leader who brings up an idiotic idea like religious school funding, when he had the lead in the polls before the election was called.

    I still like the free donuts, with every comment.

    Write Joanne, and she’ll email you a few….

  47. The message that seems to be coming through here is ‘respect’. I think there is a tendency among some bloggers (especially left-leaning) to either attack the commenters when they don’t agree with the writer, or to allow personal attacks among the ‘guests’.

    I try to discourage personal attacks, because it tends to sidetrack and degrade the discussion.

    I’m trying to avoid that, for the same reasons. Some trollish robotic lefty-voters just get me started. If you want to vote Liberal, don’t claim that it’s for their brilliant environmental vision. Admit that your dad was a Liberal, and you’re not sure how to make a contradictory assessment yourself.

    “Sure, they stole taxpayer’s money, but they’re not Satan, like that awful Steven Harper!”

  48. …You’re smart, and civil, you have a sense of humour, and your posts are well-written. I must admit though, that those attributes alone wouldn’t necessarily be enough to cause me to return, as I do, as a daily reader and occasional commenter; the “X factor”, to me, is a subtle, particular, hard-to-describe combination of common grace and guts which is somehow more than the sum of its parts…

    Wow! I should do this kind of post more often. Marvelous for the ego.

    But seriously EBD, I’ll try to live up to that praise. Thanks.

  49. I still like the free donuts, with every comment.

    Write Joanne, and she’ll email you a few….

    How do you type an emoticon donut?

    (o) ?

  50. Just returned home after 2 days in Calgary, and first thing I did after turning on the computer and checking e-mail was log on here to catch up on what has happened since Sunday. Most of the above posters have said everything that I could or would say. To me you are a comfortable pair of slippers and a good cup of coffee. Can’t do without either.

  51. To me you are a comfortable pair of slippers and a good cup of coffee. Can’t do without either.

    Ah, that’s so nice, Mary T. Thanks.

    Welcome home.

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