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“I’m confident we will have significant reductions. I’m not telling you specific numbers because you would not trust me,” he said.

Gee, I wonder why Canadians shoudn’t trust him?

“And he smiled, straight faced while he lied..”

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What is wrong with the MSM. Even Lorrie Goldstien , who is generally logical has not asked the pertinent question.

Here are the CO2 emission by country from a “global warming friendly” source , so one cannot claim the numbers have been “massaged” by “deniers”.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science/each-countrys-share-of-co2-emissions.html

The total CO2 is 5,952,789,000 tons (all countries). Canada is listed as 174,401,000 tons or 2.93% of the total contribution of CO2.

So if there is such a dire need to impose Dion’s carbon tax to save the earth , and it will achieve 20% reduction , this amounts to reducing Canada’s total contribution to 2.34% from 2.93% and in the process wrecks Canada’s economy.

… what a wonderful plan !

How long does it take new innovations to be everyday needs and wants by the population. If one studies this you will find that it is usually adapted by the generation the invention took place in. As an example let’s take kitchen appliances. A blender for example.
My generation grew up with the egg beater, or for small jobs, 2 forks, for doing slightly beaten eggs.
Today the egg beater is a strange contraptions that young brides look at with that -what is this-look.
Until our kids start giving us these new things for gifts, we ignore them. I remember giving my mother-in-law an electric fry pan, and it stayed in the box for about 3 yrs. My kids have given me several types of blenders and I still grab 2 forks, as they are easier to wash than take a blender apart. (hey,maybe I’m green and saving water.) Just because new technology will make electric cars available does not mean everyone will rush out and buy one. Need, money, age, habits and so many other things will make our decisions. Habits are hard to change, and for some reason our kids end up buying the same brands of everyday items their parent’s bought. The above might be a weird example, but the message is the same.
If you stop and think you could come up with your own examples of how long it took you to get the latest gadget, t.v., or whatever.
Back to the forks, making french toast for breakfast.

Is a 20% deduction by 2020 worth de-industrializing the economy back to the Middle Ages?

Both Dion’s carbon tax increase and Harper’s Cap-&-Trade tax increase will mean that Canadians will have a standard of living equal to the standards of the Middle Ages.

Both of these enormous tax increases, and their flow through price increases to all consumer products, will diminish our standard of living since we will not be in a position to make as many purchases , thus causing massive unemployment and recession. This is already beginning in the auto industry, with much more to come if either of Mr. Dion’s, or Mr. Harper’s major tax increases are implemented.

Both of these socialist style tax grabs are calculated to redistribute wealth from wealth creators to others.

most CO2 “pollution”, to use the eviro-twits word, is natural, what does Diondipskick plan to do about that? Assuming he beleives that CO2 is the main culprit in changing climate then logically something has to be done about the naturally occuring CO2 which on a percentage basis outnumbers the man made stuff by a factor of about 32:1, unless he also beleives that man made CO2 has some kind of special magical heat trapping power; just wondering

My question to Dion would be this.Are you prepared to put this plan to a vote, and if yes, will more than 11 Liberal MP’s show up to vote?

So Dion low balls the expectations of his own plan. Nice “leader”.

What boggles my mind is that why anyone would buy into this scam. Why in the heck are there ANY supporters period? I pray that Canadians are not so stupid to believe that they will profit while helping the planet.

Paulstuff I find it odd too. I suspect that maybe that some polling firms have and it’s really bad for the Liberals so they just suppressed them knowing it would be embarrassing. That’s my two cents anyway.

I think most of us are for the reduction in pollution. The problem is idiots have interchanged the words pollution to mean emmission or global warming or climate change. Pollution is dumping raw sewage into the ocean, and killing the fish.
OT, now on cbc, Chretain has been vindicated for any involvement of the scandal.

The line from the baseball movie was ‘if you build it, they will come’. For industry the line is ‘if you tax it, they will leave’. The hold on manufacturing companies here is tenuous at best without any stupid new tax. The rising dollar has already shown how fragile most companies are, and how quickly production can be shifted elsewhere. Hey, maybe thats what Dion means by the green shift. He will force carbon emitters in Canada to shift their production to Mexico, India and China, where there are no environmental standards, and global emissions will increase due to the lower levels of technology used. Makes perfect liberal sense to me.

lemmings Sammy….lemmings not rats.

so in other words, no real change

and these were on the link, too…

Approval Ratings: Harper 32%, Dion 12%

Preferred Prime Minister: Harper 37%, Dion 10%, Neither 39%

Momentum Score: Harper -19, Dion -26

52% do not want the opposition to force an early election

Harper defeats Dion on eight qualities and characteristics

dunno what a momentum score is, and have no idea of the 8 qualities that haper beats dion on, tho

My daily duty is to go to Jason’s site and vote in the Angus Reid poll, at the top-Will Stephane Dion be next PM-75% say NO.

I say we make it like the Wheat Board. Only those east of Manitoba can belong to the carbon tax board.

Nothing on pollution or conservation in Dion plan. But hey Dion is going to save the world by brining in a tax. We can’t even fix are health care system but Dion is going to change the weather by a tax. WTF!! who falls for thi crap.

Anyway tis is my feelings on saving the planet. RIP Mr. Carlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw&feature=related

I’ve just been watching the local news where they’re talking about the high cost of gas affecting so many areas - from school busing to Meals on Wheels to to taxi fares… The list goes on and on.

Add to that a carbon tax, and people will really be in trouble. And McGuinty is in favour of it now? With all the coal plants still in operation? I really don’t get that. The cost of electricity is going to escalate as it is, and then if there’s a carbon tax on top of it, who’s gonna pay?

You guessed it. The lemming staring at you in the mirror.

The local paper here estimates every penny added to a litre of gas costs the town $13,000. Dion’s plan is estimated to add 10 cents a litre by year 4 from the tax trickling down. Can you say property tax increase?

Here in Ajax, the local hospital is laying off 85 nurses, closing beds, etc. due to budget difficulties. and a carbon-tax on their utilities is going to make it better?

Snow plowing, garbage pick-up, recycling, meals on wheels, infrastructure repairs, among other things are all going to cost more. I wonder if Dion realizes what all those street lights use for power.

My girlfriend and I go to Algonquin Park every year for a week camping. Normally you had to book by April to get a spot in July. I phoned today asking if a particular spot on the water was available by any chance. The guy laughed and said I could pretty much have any spot. Nobody is going this year.

I wonder if Dion even has half a clue that most northern communities in Ontario depend on tourism in order for the towns and businesses to survive.

Hey! What did the Sun Girl have to say about it?

today’s wise words from dion:

“TORONTO — Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion says 40 per cent of Canada’s carbon emissions come from Alberta and Saskatchewan and the two western provinces will have to do the most to change their habits under his new green plan. But he said it will be good for them - and he’s taking that message to the Calgary Stampede next weekend.”

“”To do the right thing will be beneficial for them,” Mr. Dion told The Globe and Mail’s editorial board. “I care about Alberta and Saskatchewan. I know many people who want to do the right thing. Many will know that it will create jobs there - green jobs”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080627.wdion27/BNStory/National/home

Tori, thanks for those links.

More Liberal arrogance.

Not a problem. (For me, that is. Sorry for you about your connection.)

“and to the ones above…can you tell me what the reduction targets are in dion’s carbon tax?”

No we can’t. Dion says he won’t tell us because we don’t trust him.

[...] As Raphael points out, Stephane Dion is having great trouble providing details to his plan. He stumbles when asked pointed questions and refers inquirers to the website or grandchildren who are presumably brighter than the person asking the question. And he won’t tell us specific numbers, because we wouldn’t trust him anyway, right? [...]