Somebody’s blowing smoke
Interesting juxtaposition of headlines at National Newswatch : Will MPs summer last until November? Right below that is Liberals fall to fourth place in Quebec .
Of the rumour that the Government might delay the return of Parliament until after the Conservative policy convention, Ralph Goodale states:
"…They desperately want to avoid having to face either more question periods or more encounters with the media in Ottawa that would force them to deal with Bernier, the … election (financing) scandal or NAFTA-gate," Goodale said. "I think they’re running scared. They’ve never had to face this kind of downturn in public opinion ."
Sure, Ralph. If it makes you feel better to say that, you just go right ahead.
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Update : And here we have a somewhat tongue-in-cheek look at Bernier’s affair The Bernier Affair - How the Tories got their spunk back .
L. Ian MacDonald - Poll points to shifting political sands in Quebec . This is definitely worth a read.

June 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
The grits are in third place in Montreal. This is unheard of. The Tories may actually win seats on the island of Montreal!!!
They are in fourth place in the rest of the province. Oh Happy day!
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I guess since ‘Berniergate’ has fallen sharply off the radar..ZERO coverage on cbc this a.m. about it,so you know it’s a bomb..so Ralphy needs a new ‘outrage’What he’s really saying is the Libs have no guts to pull the plug.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
What is waking up the people:, the blogs or the msm? my guess the blogs where the people are reading their nagging suspicion about the liberals but could verify if it was true or not since the msm have been doing their very best to cover the liberals very own scandals and the refusal to demand the money back which the liberals took in the millions from taxpayers across this nation.
Apparently the people are not buying what the liberals ndp or the MSM are selling.
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Sure Ralph the conservatives are running scared yeah right what about you guys oh wait a minute you have your little msm to clean up your act
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
In the confidence vote tonite Canadians will see for thwmselves who is running scared - the Liberals will beat a hasty retreat so the government is not defeated.
Canadians don’t have to depend on Liberals or MSM to tell them who is running scared -watch the vote tonite.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
And Ralphie boy, your the last person in the Liberal party that a Conservative would run from.Your all mouth and a yellow streak down your spine like the rest of your liberal cronies & supporters.C,mon Ralphie,make our day and bring down the mean old Harper Government.PLUCK..PLUCK..PLUCK….Your all a bunch of chicken dung.PLUCK..PLUCK…Not a cockadoodle doo amongst the bunch of you.
June 2nd, 2008 at 4:45 pm
cherry picking your poll results? the ipsos poll, mentioned in your link, has the libs ahead of the cons in quebec.
funny how only the good polls turn up in blogging tory land.
ralph only points out the obvious. while the LPC may not be ready to fight an election today, things will only improve as the summer drags on.
you can bet that harper will delay bringing parliament back as long as possible in order to feather his election mattress a little longer.
conservative crowing seems odd to me. you have failed to turn the dial. a majority is well out of reach and voter confidence continues to drop.
if ( granted it’s a big if ) dion can frame the debate on a carbon tax correctly, the libs have a legitimate shot at the next election.
while conservatives may hate the idea of a carbon tax, no surprise here, the majority of canadians feel otherwise and they don’t vote CPC.
if dion can hold the liberal core and shift soft green and ndp support, it’s all over.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Here, Jeffy. I cherry picked this one for you. It shows the Liberals in FOURTH place in Quebec (that’s like, oh I dunno, three or so BELOW first place):
http://www.canada.com/scripts/story.html?id=080232cb-c349-4d9b-8dbd-c4d5fe31936c&k=96713
Note this interesting piece:
Now who’s the deluded one? Bwaahaaahaaaahaaa!
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
J.D said:
“cherry picking your poll results? the ipsos poll, mentioned in your link, has the libs ahead of the cons in quebec.
funny how only the good polls turn up in blogging tory land.”
Ipsos is one poll BUT:
L. Ian MacDonald of the Montreal Gazette reported this morning:(Link above)
“Every month, La Presse publishes a CROP poll on provincial and federal voting intention in Quebec. It is regarded as the authoritative political poll in Quebec because of the size of the sample, its regional and demographic breakouts, and the enviable track record of the CROP brand. Only Léger Marketing is even in the same league.
While polling firms in English-speaking Canada do national surveys with a sample of 250 respondents in Quebec over two or three nights, CROP usually samples 1,000 Quebecers over 10 nights. CROP not only releases an overall voting intention, but a breakdown of the vote by language group and region, French and English-speaking, Greater Montreal, the island of Montreal, Quebec City and east, and the rest of Quebec.
The sample size, extensive methodology and overall track record are the reasons that when CROP speaks, the political class listens….
…On the federal side, the story is that the Liberals, at 15 per cent, have now fallen to fourth place among the federal parties, behind the Bloc at 31 per cent, the Conservatives at 28 per cent, and the NDP at 16 per cent.
This has never happened before.
The real news is that the Liberals have also fallen to third place on the island of Montreal.
This has never happened before, either. Ever.
According to CROP, the Bloc narrowly leads the Conservatives 26 to 24 per cent on the island, with the Liberals at 19 per cent and the NDP at 18 per cent. All those NDP votes can’t be in Outremont, supporting Tom Mulcair. And all those Conservative votes can’t be in the East End. Something weird is going on in the West Island ridings, something that isn’t being detected anecdotally.
When you look at the breakout of the non-francophone vote, the Conservatives are at 34 per cent, the Liberals at 28 per cent and the NDP at 21 per cent. This is hard to credit overall, because it isn’t observable on the ground. Perhaps this is the one wonky poll in 20 that pollsters always warn about in their disclaimers.
In the last half century, the Conservatives have scored minor breakthroughs in the Liberal strongholds of the West Island, in the 1958 Diefenbaker landslide, the 1984 Mulroney sweep, and the free-trade campaign of 1988. These were beachheads of two or three seats.
But the Conservatives have never led the Liberals overall on the island of Montreal. This five-point spread is outside the margin of error. Perhaps it’s a rogue poll. It was certainly taken before last week, a very bad one for the Conservatives, with the Maxime Bernier fiasco.
The Liberals should hope so. Because these numbers are saying that non-francophones are coming to the same conclusion as francophones - that the Liberal leader, Stéphane Dion, doesn’t have it.”
Sorry to rain on your continuous delusional parade Davidson…Try again. I recommend you actually read the links Joanne provides before you start rambling. You would sound less foolish and people might start taking you more seriously.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Jeffy, so why why don’t the grits bring down the Tory government? Bring it on!
The Tories are not afraid. Dion is afraid of his own shadow. oops 6 more months of Tory rule.
June 2nd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
The liberals are afraid. Their numbers in Quebec should frighten them.
June 2nd, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Two interesting reads by Angelo Persichilli.
This one is about the PM’s European tour
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Persichilli_Angelo/2008/06/01/pf-5737541.html (h/t National Newswatch)
This one is a one-on-one interview with the PM.
http://www.thehilltimes.ca/html/index.php?display=story&full_path=2008/june/2/backrooms/&c=2 (h/t Susan Delacourt’s blog)
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:37 pm
And the Lieberals continue to sit on their hands or not show up at all. Disgusting, pathetic maggots, all of them.
June 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Is Jeffy actually saying the Ipsos poll is good news for The Lib’s?
The poll, conducted for Canwest News Service and Global National, said support for the Conservatives was up one point to 36 per cent since the last survey three weeks ago. Support for the Liberals dropped three points to 29 per cent, while the New Democrats’ standing was unchanged at 14 per cent and the Green Party’s stood at 11 per cent, up two points.
Do explain Jeffy.
June 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 am
Funniest thing I heard all eve,was in the House leading up to the big vote.As the Libs were filing in,someone yelled off camera “bring in your dead!” I laughed out loud as well,when after the first vote,The Garth disappeared,and Yvon Godin of NDP stood on point of order ,after Karen Redmond said one member from previous count was ‘missing’Yvon said “Garth Turner left to take a phone call,I guess that was more important for him to leave the Chamber” Members are NOT to use names,but Godin was pissed,and good on him for pointing that out.What a disgrace that the Libs could only round up 11 members for a vote they have railed about for weeks.
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:24 am
Sammy, that’s hilarious!
I had a busy evening yesterday, so am just catching up on all this now. Thanks for that update.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 am
Any of you have kids? I just had a flash of the Wiggles singing, “Where’s Jeff?”
June 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Hey Joanne,
I’m damn sure a conservative voter, but am getting tired of the constant partisanship shown by the government. I want a conservative government that:
1) is fiscally conservative
2) doesn’t reflexively attack everyone who disagrees with their direction (how hard would it be for Baird to say nicely that Ontario/Quebec are doing at least something, rather than make the standard attack).
If I wanted 2), I could vote for the Liberal party, the party that invented the partisan smear. I’m certainly not getting 1) from the CPC.
The CPC is supposed to be better on integrity, and accountability. Their natural tendency seems lately to do neither. Corruption is defined by the Liberal Party, and they cannot begin to come close to winning a majority. Why are we handing them another opposition role in a CPC majority, be default.
If you recall, I predicted the John Tory loss in Ontario months before it happened. I see another CPC minority coming in 2009 (since the LP leader doesn’t want to lose his job, just yet). If the LP wasn’t so weak (carbon taxes proposed during a dramatic fuel price increase?), the CPC would lose.
It doesn’t have to be this way. Harper needs to fire everyone involved in strategy and communications, and find someone who knows how to win, not the amateurs he’s listening to now.
End of rant.