Comments on: McGuinty’s Pesticide Ban needs some debugging http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/ Conservative musings Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:52:27 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Blue Like You » Blog Archive » Liberals can be ‘control freaks’ too http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24642 Blue Like You » Blog Archive » Liberals can be ‘control freaks’ too Fri, 23 May 2008 01:46:54 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24642 [...] poor Environment Minister John Gerretsen when he had to sweat through a photo op where he heard his boss say something totally not in the plan , and yet he got blasted anyway for not calling him out in [...] [...] poor Environment Minister John Gerretsen when he had to sweat through a photo op where he heard his boss say something totally not in the plan , and yet he got blasted anyway for not calling him out in [...]

]]> By: Blue Like You » Blog Archive » Deadline for public input tomorrow re: Pesticide Bill-64 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24641 Blue Like You » Blog Archive » Deadline for public input tomorrow re: Pesticide Bill-64 Wed, 21 May 2008 11:21:40 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24641 [...] wants this legislation changed so that municipalities are allowed to make the laws even tougher, as Dalton originally mistakenly said before his Minister corrected him. I thought the whole point was to have some kind of level [...] [...] wants this legislation changed so that municipalities are allowed to make the laws even tougher, as Dalton originally mistakenly said before his Minister corrected him. I thought the whole point was to have some kind of level [...]

]]> By: Joanne http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24640 Joanne Tue, 06 May 2008 15:06:28 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24640 No, Gabby. Please provide as many as you like. It's just that your comment will be waiting for my approval; that's all. Or try one per post, but that's a nuisance. Thanks. No, Gabby. Please provide as many as you like. It’s just that your comment will be waiting for my approval; that’s all. Or try one per post, but that’s a nuisance. Thanks.

]]> By: Gabby in QC http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24621 Gabby in QC Tue, 06 May 2008 13:34:52 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24621 Re; getting caught in spam filter. Note to self: curb your tendency to provide links, regardless of how many times some commenters ask for them. ;-) Re; getting caught in spam filter.
Note to self: curb your tendency to provide links, regardless of how many times some commenters ask for them. ;-)

]]> By: Joanne http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24626 Joanne Tue, 06 May 2008 02:44:47 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24626 Thanks for all that, Gabby. Your comment was late getting published because it was caught in the spam filter. Any time you post something with more than one link it could go there, in which case just post another comment asking me to check the filter. Thanks. Thanks for all that, Gabby. Your comment was late getting published because it was caught in the spam filter. Any time you post something with more than one link it could go there, in which case just post another comment asking me to check the filter. Thanks.

]]> By: Joanne (TB) http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24639 Joanne (TB) Tue, 06 May 2008 00:39:45 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24639 Good point, Greg. In fact, let's close all the Universities and have Dalton give sermons from Queen's Park. He doesn't even need the Lord's prayer anymore. Good point, Greg. In fact, let’s close all the Universities and have Dalton give sermons from Queen’s Park. He doesn’t even need the Lord’s prayer anymore.

]]> By: Greg http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24638 Greg Tue, 06 May 2008 00:34:48 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24638 I think they should stop funding the niversity of Guelph now. Close the damn place. If all those world renowned scientists and their studies can't compete with the genius of one McGuinty, why waste all that money? I think they should stop funding the niversity of Guelph now. Close the damn place. If all those world renowned scientists and their studies can’t compete with the genius of one McGuinty, why waste all that money?

]]> By: Ruth http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24637 Ruth Mon, 05 May 2008 20:33:58 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24637 OMMAG - right on. You said it so well. I saw a middle aged lady yesterday trying to pull dandelions and sneezing all the time she was doing it. I told her it would be better to do a quick spray than put up with that. She just said she guessed she would have to spend most of her time indoors with the air conditioner going. What a life! OMMAG – right on. You said it so well.
I saw a middle aged lady yesterday trying to pull dandelions and sneezing all the time she was doing it. I told her it would be better to do a quick spray than put up with that. She just said she guessed she would have to spend most of her time indoors with the air conditioner going. What a life!

]]> By: OMMAG http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24636 OMMAG Mon, 05 May 2008 19:42:04 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24636 If this noise about the human impact of pesticides were anywhere near being true then Farms and rural communities would be populated by NOTHING but wheezing autistics with corrupted immune systems and cancer! Pure hysterical fear mongering form people with other agendas. If this noise about the human impact of pesticides were anywhere near being true then Farms and rural communities would be populated by NOTHING but wheezing autistics with corrupted immune systems and cancer!

Pure hysterical fear mongering form people with other agendas.

]]> By: Gabby in QC http://www.bluelikeyou.com/2008/05/05/mcguintys-pesticide-ban-needs-some-debugging/#comment-24635 Gabby in QC Mon, 05 May 2008 18:25:15 +0000 http://www.bluelikeyou.com/?p=1367#comment-24635 As with many other issues, there are always two sides to a given story. Unfortunately, we human beings don't have ALL the answers to everything. It's true, there are some studies that indicate a cause/effect relationship between autism and pesticides, but there are also studies that show that relationship is inconclusive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_autism "Autism and autism spectrum disorders are complex neurodevelopmental disorders. Many causes of autism have been proposed, but its theory of causation is still incomplete. Heritability contributes about 90% of the risk of a child developing autism, but the genetics of autism are complex and typically it is unclear which genes are responsible. In rare cases, autism is strongly associated with agents that cause birth defects. Many other causes have been proposed, such as exposure of children to vaccines; these proposals are controversial and the vaccine hypotheses have no convincing scientific evidence." And then there are other studies, such as: http://oss.mcgill.ca/zsearch/zsearch.php?zoom_query=autism&zoom_per_page=10&zoom_and=0&zoom_sort=0 OR http://tinyurl.com/3vohjz "In recent years, autism and other autism spectrum disorders have been on the rise. But while there are numerous hypotheses used to explain such a phenomenon, it is only now, due to recent findings based on research conducted at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York and medical records collected in Israel, that researchers have actually been able to come up with some type of reasoning. And the results are somewhat surprising. It is now widely known that women in today’s society tend to delay having children; however, what is less known is that men are also waiting later in life to start a family. Well, this study shows just that. Apparently, men, along with their women counterparts, have also decided to put having children on hold until they are older. ... The study found that children who are born to fathers who are in their thirties have a one and a half greater risk of developing autism than those born to fathers who are in their twenties. In fact, the risk actually increases as with the father’s age. Children who are born to fathers in their forties have a five times greater chance of developing the disease while those who have fathers in their fifties have more than nine times the risk." Remember DDT & malaria? As with many other issues, there are always two sides to a given story. Unfortunately, we human beings don’t have ALL the answers to everything.

It’s true, there are some studies that indicate a cause/effect relationship between autism and pesticides, but there are also studies that show that relationship is inconclusive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_autism
“Autism and autism spectrum disorders are complex neurodevelopmental disorders. Many causes of autism have been proposed, but its theory of causation is still incomplete. Heritability contributes about 90% of the risk of a child developing autism, but the genetics of autism are complex and typically it is unclear which genes are responsible. In rare cases, autism is strongly associated with agents that cause birth defects. Many other causes have been proposed, such as exposure of children to vaccines; these proposals are controversial and the vaccine hypotheses have no convincing scientific evidence.”

And then there are other studies, such as:
http://oss.mcgill.ca/zsearch/zsearch.php?zoom_query=autism&zoom_per_page=10&zoom_and=0&zoom_sort=0
OR
http://tinyurl.com/3vohjz
“In recent years, autism and other autism spectrum disorders have been on the rise. But while there are numerous hypotheses used to explain such a phenomenon, it is only now, due to recent findings based on research conducted at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York and medical records collected in Israel, that researchers have actually been able to come up with some type of reasoning. And the results are somewhat surprising.

It is now widely known that women in today’s society tend to delay having children; however, what is less known is that men are also waiting later in life to start a family. Well, this study shows just that. Apparently, men, along with their women counterparts, have also decided to put having children on hold until they are older. …
The study found that children who are born to fathers who are in their thirties have a one and a half greater risk of developing autism than those born to fathers who are in their twenties. In fact, the risk actually increases as with the father’s age. Children who are born to fathers in their forties have a five times greater chance of developing the disease while those who have fathers in their fifties have more than nine
times the risk.”

Remember DDT & malaria?

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